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Paul Ryan To Meet Black U.S. Lawmakers After "Offensive" Remarks
MSN.com ^ | 15 March 2014

Posted on 03/15/2014 1:28:32 PM PDT by zeestephen

Ryan said on William Bennett's talk radio show, "Morning in America," that there was a "tailspin of culture, in our inner cities in particular, of men not working and just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value of work."

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Paul Ryan now begging for forgiveness:

The Wisconsin lawmaker said in a statement that he "was inarticulate" about the point he was trying to make.

Paul Ryan now embraces historically bogus Hard Left talking points:

"I was not implicating the culture of one community, but of society as a whole," Ryan said. "We have allowed our society to isolate or quarantine the poor rather than integrate people into our communities. The predictable result has been multi-generational poverty and little opportunity."

1 posted on 03/15/2014 1:28:32 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Typical. A Democrat would never apologize but a Republican winds up on his knees.


2 posted on 03/15/2014 1:29:47 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: zeestephen

3 posted on 03/15/2014 1:29:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: zeestephen

Ryan is such a RINO prick. I won’t shed a tear if this derails his “career”. Let him join his Democrat butt buddy Gutierrez on the other side of the aisle.


4 posted on 03/15/2014 1:31:10 PM PDT by montag813
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To: zeestephen

Tell them when it is not racist to form the “White Congressional Caucus” and blacks (12% of the population) stop causing 60% of the murders - when can talk...


5 posted on 03/15/2014 1:31:44 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: zeestephen

Allen West wouldn’t apologize.


6 posted on 03/15/2014 1:32:52 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: zeestephen

So glad this man didn’t end up our VP.


7 posted on 03/15/2014 1:33:03 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: zeestephen

I tell em to FO.

“You guys are the ones screaming the most equality and opportunity. Combine that with abysmal statistics for “your community” and the obsevation I have is imperical. You numb nutz want freebies by virtue of race alone.

Dusting your azz off to get ahead through self determination and ambition just never crosses your mind.

You’d rather hustle the rest of us.”


8 posted on 03/15/2014 1:33:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: zeestephen
Common Name: Paul Ryan

Latin Name: Wimpus Americus Apologeticus

9 posted on 03/15/2014 1:34:08 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: zeestephen

A lot of our conservatives are not quick on their “verbal feet.” Ryan is very plodding because he’s very factual, which in the real world would be a good thing, but in the political world is a handicap.

Maybe his meeting will give him a better chance to recruit a few converts to his analysis of the situation.

Reagan was successful because he was an excellent communicator (remember, he had been an actor). Even the press couldn’t distort him when people heard him.

I’m not sure we have anybody now with these communication skills. Cruz, Rick Scott, and even Walker are successful but come across as very wooden. Does anybody know if Gov. Susanna Martinez is a good speaker? Or if we even have any good speakers?


10 posted on 03/15/2014 1:34:52 PM PDT by livius
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To: zeestephen

For once Ryan speaks the total truth and now he’s apologizing. For what?

Its about time somebody stood up and told the Blacks that the gravy train is over and its time to start pulling themselves out of their own misery like the rest of us have to do.


11 posted on 03/15/2014 1:35:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: zeestephen
gaffe n. when a politician accidentally tells the truth
12 posted on 03/15/2014 1:35:14 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: zeestephen

Frightened bunny party doing what they do best.


13 posted on 03/15/2014 1:36:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Vendome

We live in a politically correct world now.

And, there are certain things you aren’t allowed to say.

You are not allowed to say certain things about officially recognized grievance groups, such as racial minorities or homosexuals.

Ryan violated the rules of political correctness. In so doing, it does not matter if you make truthful statements. The content of what you said makes no difference. All that matters is that the liberals, based on their own subjectively biased criteria, will tear you apart for saying certain things.

And, there are the issues of “code words”. In talking about the cities, or inner cities, liberals perceive such words as meaning references to minority residents of cities.


14 posted on 03/15/2014 1:37:03 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: zeestephen

He happens to be right. I know three such men personally, two sons following in their father’s footsteps, living off the hard work of their wife and mother. They’re white. Ryan never said it was exclusively black men.


15 posted on 03/15/2014 1:38:06 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: zeestephen

Another Pubbie Wuss.


16 posted on 03/15/2014 1:38:25 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: zeestephen

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving RINO.


17 posted on 03/15/2014 1:41:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: zeestephen
Does anyone remember Daniel Patrick Moynahan on Tim Russert's Show handing the Clinton's a Liverwurst Sandwich when he said: "We don't have a healthcare crisis we have a Welfare crisis"

My... The DNC has purged anyone with a hint of Conservative Values. gone John Breaux, Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman, Gov. Casey and his Pro-Life stance, and I am sure many Freeper's can add to the list.

When DPM was on Meet da Depressed, it was what 93' or 94' and that one line absolutely nixed HillaryCare yet you wonder if she had something on him since he essentially handed her his seat.

Look at how far the left has swerved, that within their ranks or ours, when Paul Ryan says essentially the same thing 20 years ago, he is now fighting for his political life...

And people here lambaste those who want to leave the US and surrender their passport before "it" hits the Rotary Oscillator? Considering what they are doing to Paul, can you blame them and is all hope lost?

18 posted on 03/15/2014 1:41:25 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: zeestephen

The truth can NEVER be racist.


19 posted on 03/15/2014 1:42:41 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Unfortunately the gravy train is not over. There will be deep cuts in social security and higher taxes for the wealthy but the inner city welfare class is not losing their gravy train.


20 posted on 03/15/2014 1:43:01 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: zeestephen

The Thug Culture, you can’t talk about our Thug Culture Whitey Boy!!


21 posted on 03/15/2014 1:43:08 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: zeestephen

I thought he was able to play the “dated a black woman in college” card.


22 posted on 03/15/2014 1:43:31 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: 2banana

I hate to see him brought to this whipping post. I’d bare me teeth and tell them that I WAS ONLY SPEAKING THE TRUTH.


23 posted on 03/15/2014 1:44:24 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: livius
Must disagree.

Reagan called a spade a spade.

The following would certainly be regarded as far more offensive in 2014 than anything Ryan said:

"There's a woman in Chicago, according to an article in the now-defunct Washington Star. She has 80 names, 30 addresses, 12 Social Security cards. ... She's got Medicaid, getting food stamps and she is collecting welfare under each of her names. Her tax-free cash income alone is over $150,000."

Reagan did not apologize.

Neither should Ryan.

24 posted on 03/15/2014 1:44:40 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: zeestephen

Why do these morons state the obvious then back right off it? He should stick to his guns... everyone knows inner cities are messed up


25 posted on 03/15/2014 1:45:31 PM PDT by BRL
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To: zeestephen

26 posted on 03/15/2014 1:46:00 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: livius
RE: “Does anybody know if Gov. Susanna Martinez is a good speaker?”

I hope not.

Martinez is a “reformed” Democrat and is center-left on most issues.

Several months ago Albuquerque, which is almost 50% Hispanic, voted to outlaw third term abortions.

Martinez refused to take a public position on the vote because “it's a local issue.”

And the next time someone claims that Martinez can attract Hispanics to the GOP, remember this:

In 2010, when Martinez ran for her first term, 61% of Hispanics voted AGAINST her!

27 posted on 03/15/2014 1:47:44 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Wiser now

He happens to be right. I know three such men personally, two sons following in their father’s footsteps, living off the hard work of their wife and mother. They’re white. Ryan never said it was exclusively black men.


He is right. My husband taught Jr. ROTC at an inner-city school in the Midwest. The students were predominantly black and most of the families were multi-generational welfare users.

My husband spoke almost daily with people that told him a)they didn’t want jobs b)they saw no reason to ever try to get a job and c)there was no reason to take care of themselves because that’s the government’s job.

Most of the kids in the ROTC program wanted to better themselves and leave what they learned about bleeding the system behind. He drove kids to job interviews because their parents were ‘too busy’ or just didn’t care enough. He got kids to the doctor when needed, for the same reason. He helped them fill out scholarship paperwork and would follow up when parents wouldn’t provide the necessary information for the forms. It was never ending, but he did it because he wanted these kids to be able to break free of the cycle.

After 3 years he could not take it any longer and quit. He really felt he would never be able to make a lasting change in how these people lived their lives. It took him a long time to get over that job....

Paul Ryan is absolutely right and as my husband found out, most people that live like this generation after generation see no reason to change.


28 posted on 03/15/2014 1:47:49 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: zeestephen

Since when is the truth offensive? Cradle to the grave welfare has to be talked about. More work and less welfare is always good.


29 posted on 03/15/2014 1:48:07 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: zeestephen

I don’t want to integrate some or more winos who are freeloaders into my society or circle of associations. I have been there and seen their values. Many of these are ‘poor’ by choice not by other persons actions. Ryan’s comeback is paper to cover his mouth. There seems to be a lot of this kind of behavior and talk by politicians.


30 posted on 03/15/2014 1:49:11 PM PDT by noinfringers2 ( /*)
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To: FredZarguna

The thing is that Reagan was a communicator and could get his message across. He had pretty simple messages, because the actual policy groundwork was done by others and he knew the general concepts and could express them well.

My point is that Ryan is great at the policy groundwork, but he’s not good at the message. What we need is somebody like Reagan, who had a general conceptual idea, was intelligent and an excellent speaker and obviously a good administrator (I think he had managed his own acting career at various points), and relied on people like Paul Ryan to give him the information and the key talking points that he needed.


31 posted on 03/15/2014 1:49:20 PM PDT by livius
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To: zeestephen

Don’t take back a single word...


32 posted on 03/15/2014 1:50:30 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: zeestephen
I have to admit that at one time I fell for the hype about this guy. I will give him this much: he was at least clever enough to figure out he could become a big fish in the GOP as opposed to being a back-bencher on the other side of the uniparty.

Mr. niteowl77

33 posted on 03/15/2014 1:50:42 PM PDT by niteowl77 ("Why do we go to Iowa? Because that's where the suckers are.")
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To: ladyjane

You are probably right but at some point and I think soon there isn’t going to be any more money.


34 posted on 03/15/2014 1:52:02 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yeah, well, as a percentage of their “aggrieved” group, they are going to have to eventually come to their senses and ask themselves how all this posturing does anyone but, the organizers any good.

Fauxhcon, Slapton, Hi-Jackson, et al.

Them guys is making it big. Everyone else gets smoke blown up their backsides...


35 posted on 03/15/2014 1:52:52 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: livius
I’m not sure we have anybody now with these communication skills. Cruz, Rick Scott, and even Walker are successful but come across as very wooden.

The essential point you're making is very much on target. The ideas must be communicated effectively and, of course, President Reagan was peerless in that regard. I will disagree about our outstanding Texas Senator Ted Cruz in that regard. In fact, I'll quote from an enemy who stands in utter awe (and rightful fear) of Cruz's intellect and communication skills. These are the words of Chris Hayes of MSLSD:

In October 2007, I sat in the media gallery of the United States Supreme Court and watched the Solicitor General of Texas [Ted Cruz] argue on behalf of the state that he should have the ability to put to death a Mexican national who had been convicted of raping and murdering two teenage girls in Houston. He won that argument and he was executed by Texas on August 5th, 2008, despite the objections of the United Nations and the International Court of Justice.

At the time, I had no idea who this man arguing on behalf of Texas was. but all I could think was holy c**p, this guy is good. It was one of his nine times arguing before the Supreme Court and he was witty, incredibly fast on his feet and clearly had a brilliant legal mind . It is to this day one of the most impressive displays I have ever seen before the Court and I have had the good fortune to spend a lot of time there.

36 posted on 03/15/2014 1:53:08 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: zeestephen

Ryan has been dead to me for quite a while now


37 posted on 03/15/2014 1:54:25 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: FrdmLvr

An you are glad we have Biden?


38 posted on 03/15/2014 1:54:45 PM PDT by woofie
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To: livius

I had the opportunity to be involved in some actions taken by Reagan when he was Gov. of California. Reagan was his own ‘man’ which I believe started in his childhood. As governor he certainly listened to advisers and even the ‘common’ person, but when push came to shove he was Reagan. There were somethings that I would have preferred he had acted on differently but all in all Reagan was a man of and by and for the people.


39 posted on 03/15/2014 2:01:17 PM PDT by noinfringers2 ( /*)
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To: zeestephen

Dear God, I am so sick of these trembling cowards. What ever happened to behaving like a MAN?


40 posted on 03/15/2014 2:01:40 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: zeestephen

Gutless. I think he is also an Anglo for Amnesty.


41 posted on 03/15/2014 2:07:07 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: zeestephen

Falling right into a leftist trap. Ryan apologizes and the Democratic Party will use this to inflame Black voters to get to the polls this fall. I’m tired of this crap. The Congressional Black Caucus, i.e. the Democratic Party, has done more to damage blacks in our inner cities than any offhand remark by Paul Ryan or another white politican ever could. This is all they’ve got. Race card, class card, gender card, etc. The left always uses the same deck of cards and our side is too stupid to see it, well at least the establishment is. I would have stood by my words and let those liberal idiots of the CBC stew and rant and cry in the wind.


42 posted on 03/15/2014 2:08:25 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: zeestephen
The point is that Ryan bows to the altar of the Chamber of Commerce. The Chamber of Commerce wants cheap hispanic labor to replace black workers. So, the master that Ryan serves is a major cause of black unemployment.

And people wonder why blacks don't switch their allegiance to the Republicans?

43 posted on 03/15/2014 2:10:01 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Watta doosh!


44 posted on 03/15/2014 2:12:14 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: zeestephen

Paul Ryan begging for forgiveness is a “beautiful sight” to those who wish he would just retire from politics and go away with his overstated credentials.


45 posted on 03/15/2014 2:12:21 PM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: zeestephen

Ryan is just another court eunuch castrated by the PC “Diversity” police.

What a pathetic weasel.

Grovel, Paul, grovel. Doesn’t it feel all better now?


46 posted on 03/15/2014 2:13:26 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Jack French Kemp taught Ryan all he knows, and then Romney comes along and confuses the boy.


47 posted on 03/15/2014 2:13:31 PM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: leapfrog0202

He couldn’t make a lasting change in other people’s lives. That’s up to them, and they are contented with the status quo, just like most of our little Republican primary voters too, it seems.


48 posted on 03/15/2014 2:16:03 PM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: zeestephen

No, didn’t liberal Albuquerque embrace late-term abortions?


49 posted on 03/15/2014 2:17:11 PM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: Theodore R.

The more I hear, the more I’m convinced he was tailor made to be two peas in a pod with Willard.


50 posted on 03/15/2014 2:17:36 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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