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Marine Corps to create experimental task force with 25 percent women
Stars & Stripes ^ | March 13, 2014 | Jennnifer Hlad

Posted on 03/15/2014 2:11:50 PM PDT by QT3.14

The Marine Corps will open new combat jobs to women, allow women to volunteer for combat specialty training previously closed to them and create a co-ed experimental task force to evaluate how female Marines perform as part of a ground combat unit, Marine officials said.

The task force will be made up of about 460 Marines, and about one quarter will be women, said Capt. Maureen Krebs, a Marine spokeswoman. The task force will look like a small battalion landing team with attachments such as artillery, tanks and amphibious assault vehicles — similar to the ground combat portion of a Marine Expeditionary Unit, but about half the size.

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bhodod; butch; combat; diversity; feminism; marines; military; militaryexperiment; militarywomen; socialexperiment; usmc
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1 posted on 03/15/2014 2:11:50 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

Are they lesbians? At any rate, my guess is this will not go well.


2 posted on 03/15/2014 2:12:30 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: QT3.14

I would expect at least 35-40% casualty rates for this force, as a bunch of guys will die trying to save and defend the women.


3 posted on 03/15/2014 2:14:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: QT3.14
The First Amazon Calvary Battalion?
Salute to Rush.
4 posted on 03/15/2014 2:15:12 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: QT3.14

Then, there will be a major assault on a Bed, Bath and Beyond.


5 posted on 03/15/2014 2:15:24 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: ilovesarah2012

You’re a doosh. What could go wrong?


6 posted on 03/15/2014 2:18:04 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: QT3.14

Any truth to the rumor that Demi Moore will be the new C.O.?


7 posted on 03/15/2014 2:19:39 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: QT3.14

Fools in charge.


8 posted on 03/15/2014 2:20:53 PM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: QT3.14

Similarly, there is a huge push to get a woman into the Navy Seals. This stuff is what preoccupies Obama’s military goals.


9 posted on 03/15/2014 2:21:03 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: QT3.14
allow women to volunteer for combat specialty training previously closed to them and create

One has to wonder what would drive a woman to volunteer for combat specialty training... ?

10 posted on 03/15/2014 2:24:43 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: x1stcav

Report: Women Unlikely to Perform as Well in Combat as Men

Read more at http://godfatherpolitics.com/9632/report-women-unlikely-to-perform-as-well-in-combat-as-men/#wSkO6WXs16CDZkql.99


11 posted on 03/15/2014 2:25:20 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Secret Agent Man
Maybe not -- if the women look like this:
12 posted on 03/15/2014 2:25:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: x1stcav
Yeah. What could go wrong?
13 posted on 03/15/2014 2:25:58 PM PDT by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: QT3.14

Infreakinginsane


14 posted on 03/15/2014 2:26:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: BenLurkin

Ahhh, Vasquez.

Hudson (male): Anyone ever mistake you for a man, Vasquez?

Vasquez: No. Anyone ever mistake YOU for a man?


15 posted on 03/15/2014 2:27:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: QT3.14
What, no similar unit for transsexuals?

This is an outrage!

/obama

16 posted on 03/15/2014 2:27:46 PM PDT by SIDENET
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To: QT3.14

I assume that combat effectiveness might drop for about 3-4 days each month.


17 posted on 03/15/2014 2:29:35 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Secret Agent Man

That movie had some great minor-role military characters.


18 posted on 03/15/2014 2:30:39 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

The Sergeant - Apone - was ex-military and the actor grunts actually trained for a week or two as squads just to prepare for the roles. The actor who played Hicks came in late, as he filled in for an actor who got sick and didn’t go through all the other stuff but he fit right in.


19 posted on 03/15/2014 2:33:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Falcon4.0

Calvary


Cavalry.

You can remember because "calvaria" = a skull, esp. the top, and "cavallus" = horse (in Late Latin).

That said, women have no place in combat units. I'm a huntin' fishin' shootin' kind of gal, and I got a lot of muscular strength from my dad's line so I can generally do a man's work, even pushing 60. But I know I am not and was never suited for that sort of work. Inadequate upper body strength.

20 posted on 03/15/2014 2:33:38 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: BenLurkin

Why don’t you put her in charge!?


21 posted on 03/15/2014 2:34:54 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: QT3.14

insanity


22 posted on 03/15/2014 2:34:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The real treat for me was the whiny Marine, played by Bill Paxton.


23 posted on 03/15/2014 2:35:05 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks for pointing this out. I’ve even seen a few TV shows where the main actor said Calvary, when talking about a possible rescue from a bad situation. Unbelievable!


24 posted on 03/15/2014 2:36:25 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Popman
One has to wonder what would drive a woman to volunteer for combat specialty training... ?

It's all about promotion. Combat tours will get you promoted faster, and female ossifers have been complaining for years that they weren't promoted as fast bec. they couldn't check off the combat box.

Unfortunately, the kind of woman who would pull that stunt is usually a scheming devious character who just wants to punch her ticket. That doesn't hurt too many people in an office somewhere, but in a combat unit it's going to get somebody killed.

25 posted on 03/15/2014 2:36:25 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: rabidralph

Well yeah, but you had to feel a teeny bit for him (teeny) - this was supposed to be his last mission before being out of the service.


26 posted on 03/15/2014 2:37:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SIDENET

New meaaning for the phrase “ get some” !


27 posted on 03/15/2014 2:37:02 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: rabidralph

Well, they sound a lot alike, and people just aren’t exposed to the Bible the way they used to be . . . :-(


28 posted on 03/15/2014 2:37:03 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

"Affirmative."
29 posted on 03/15/2014 2:37:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Game over man!


30 posted on 03/15/2014 2:38:27 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: QT3.14
What are 25% women? Guys partly through their whackadickoffame?


31 posted on 03/15/2014 2:39:22 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is)
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To: rabidralph
My favorite was Hudson.
32 posted on 03/15/2014 2:40:19 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: QT3.14

"Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now
there won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will
invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race!"

-- Lt. Gen. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC

Chesty Puller is most decorated U.S. Marine in history. He is also the only Marine to receive five Navy Crosses.


33 posted on 03/15/2014 2:40:24 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: QT3.14
Yep,
34 posted on 03/15/2014 2:42:17 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: QT3.14

A Few Good Women. If 25% is good, 100% is four times as good.


35 posted on 03/15/2014 2:43:08 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: EEGator

He’s the one!


36 posted on 03/15/2014 2:43:20 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Secret Agent Man

Oh, yes, the short timer.


37 posted on 03/15/2014 2:44:26 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: QT3.14

That breaks down to men doing the digging, heavy lifting and hauling, and the women holding the clipboards.


38 posted on 03/15/2014 2:47:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: rabidralph

yeah he had short-timer disease real bad. didn’t help he was a little cowardly, but he manned up at the end.


39 posted on 03/15/2014 2:47:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: QT3.14

Call me a conspiracy nut.......when women start coming home by the score in body bags, the American Public will decide war is not the answer. All part of the plan to destroy this Nation.


40 posted on 03/15/2014 2:49:45 PM PDT by Einherjar
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To: QT3.14

On 20 November 1943, during the horrific fighting on Betio atoll during the battle of Tarawa, two Japanese tanks mounted a counterattack against the fragile Marine toehold on Red Beach 3. The Marines were huddled there at the base of a seawall in the face of withering fire from Admiral Keiji Shibasaki’s fanatical Japanese Naval Landing Force defenders who were slaughtering hundreds of their 2nd Marine Division comrades in Betio Lagoon during 76 hours of some of the most savage fighting in the history not only of the Marines, but the US armed forces.
Marine anti-tank gun crews were trying to figure out how to get their 912 lb 37MM M3 antitank guns over the 7 foot plus seawall. The battery commander ordered his 5 man crews to LIFT them over. Being Marines who always obeyed even seemingly impossible orders, they did EXACTLY that and promptly knocked out the tanks. They then engaged several enemy bunkers whose dual purpose guns were repeatedly knocking out the approaching landing craft and put them out of action. Finally they routed a local counter attack of 200 or so Japanese against the south shore of Red Beach 3 with canister shot, all of this at a critical and precarious point in the landing.
Whats that about upper body strength being not as important in modern warfare anymore and that women are just as likely to be able to do the job of combat infantry?

I mean no disrespect to the female perssonnel of the US Armed Forces who have served and ARE serving their nation honorably and well. I respect them as fellow vets and comrades in arms. Policy decisions are above their level for the most part.
But as a matter of POLICY, I think that women should be excluded from the armed forces for the most part, with a few exceptions and COMPLETELY from combat and most combat support roles, particularly when the armed forces are a small percentage of the total population, as is the case now. The use of significant numbers of women should be reserved for large scale mobilization as was the case in WWII. The population base is more than twice as large now as then and there would be no problem securing a sufficient number of qualified men with appropriate incentives for such a relatively small armed forces.
The advantages for the armed forces, particularly the Army would be greater flexibility as to how personnel can be deployed in combat emergencies and other contingincies and a lesser logistical strain as involves clothing, barracks and housing, and innumerable other considerations that are exclusive to the maintenence of large numbers of women. I think morale and discipline would also be improved as well.
The courts have repeatedly ruled that the armed forces are exempted from many of the equal opportunity requirements of the civillian world, and for the very good and sufficient requirements that are unique to the armed forces. This contretemps is being propelled largely by the cultural marxist wing of gender equity feminism who wish for the placement of a leftist Chairwoman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The resultant detriment of the ability of the armed forces to fight plays no consideration in their calculus, other than as an peripheral side benefit.


41 posted on 03/15/2014 2:50:39 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks for sharing a great mnemonic!


42 posted on 03/15/2014 2:50:53 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: windsorknot

Yep, if they aren’t inadequate, then what argument is there against 100% females?


43 posted on 03/15/2014 2:54:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: QT3.14

The words Experimental do not go well with the words TASK FORCE

Will this be handled by Obamascare Navigators Laid Off while waiting for ObamaPremiums to be paid?

Buraq Obama and the followers of the Wizard of Odd are clearly not done Fundamentally Transforming The Sane World


44 posted on 03/15/2014 2:56:29 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Woo-hoo!

That is mis-said soooo often.


45 posted on 03/15/2014 2:56:54 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: The Great RJ

“I assume that combat effectiveness might drop for about 3-4 days each month.”

That Depends.


46 posted on 03/15/2014 2:57:02 PM PDT by moovova
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To: MeshugeMikey

If some hawk came up with this idea, it might be to taunt an enemy with “We beat you using women!”

But that is surely not what the Obamanation has in mind.


47 posted on 03/15/2014 2:57:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Well, they sound a lot alike, and people just aren’t exposed to the Bible the way they used to be . . . :-(


Or correct grammar...

Or correct spelling...

Or coherent ideas...

;-P


48 posted on 03/15/2014 2:58:50 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: QT3.14; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


49 posted on 03/15/2014 3:00:17 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: QT3.14

Pathetic!


50 posted on 03/15/2014 3:01:45 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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