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U.S. officials lean toward 'those in the cockpit' behind missing flight
CNN ^ | 15 Mar 2014 | Chelsea J. Carter. Moni Basu and Barbara Starr

Posted on 03/15/2014 6:13:01 PM PDT by mandaladon

Washington (CNN) -- U.S. intelligence officials are leaning toward the theory that "those in the cockpit" -- the pilots of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 -- were deliberately responsible for the mysterious disappearance of the commercial jetliner, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the latest thinking told CNN on Saturday.

The revelation followed news that Malaysian authorities searched the home of the lead pilot, a move that came the same day that Prime Minister Najib Razak told reporters the plane veered off course due to apparent deliberate action taken by somebody on board.

The Malaysian government had been looking for a reason to search the home of the pilot and the co-pilot for several days. But it was only in the last 24 to 36 hours when radar and satellite data came to light that authorities believed they had sufficient reason to go through the residences, according to the U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

"The Malaysians don't do this lightly," the official said. It's not clear whether the Malaysian government believes one or both the men could have been responsible for whatever happened to the plane when the Boeing 777-200 ER disappeared March 8 en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

The official emphasized no final conclusions have been drawn and all the internal intelligence discussions are based on preliminary assessments of what is known to date. Other scenarios could still emerge. A source close to the investigation told CNN that Malaysian police had search the home of pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53. Shah lives in an upscale gated community in Shah Alam, outside Malaysia's capital of Kuala Lumpur.

Two vans were loaded with small bags, similar to shopping bags, at the home of the co-pilot, 27-year-old Farq Ab Hamid.

(Excerpt) Read more at us.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; malaysia; mh370; waronterror
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This was my first guess.
1 posted on 03/15/2014 6:13:02 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon
Because the northern parts of the traffic corridor include some tightly guarded airspace over India, Pakistan, and even some U.S. installations in Afghanistan, U.S. authorities believe it more likely the aircraft crashed into waters outside of the reach of radar south of India, one U.S. official told CNN. If it had flown farther north, it's likely it would have been detected by radar........................Perhaps it was shot down by a missile by the US.
2 posted on 03/15/2014 6:16:26 PM PDT by mandaladon (If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill)
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To: mandaladon

so that would be the pilot, the co-pilot, and any hotties he might have invited upfront...


3 posted on 03/15/2014 6:20:25 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: mandaladon

even though is cnn .... bkm


4 posted on 03/15/2014 6:23:28 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: bigbob; a fool in paradise

And since as it turns out the pilot was (Is?) ‘gay’, those hotties might have been transvestites, or terrorists dressed as transvestites, who overcame the pilots and hijacked the plane to, where else, San Francisco!


5 posted on 03/15/2014 6:23:59 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: mandaladon

Why take the plane when it’s full of people? Because otherwise you can’t get one that is fueled up?


6 posted on 03/15/2014 6:24:13 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Revolting cat!

I guess that takes away my theory of this plane being taken to Iran..if the pilot was a homo, yeah great idea, take the plane to Iran, they treat gays super awesome..this story, it cant get more strange, everyday something else comes out that makes no sense


7 posted on 03/15/2014 6:29:46 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Revolting cat!

Plus they’re Mooselimbs.


8 posted on 03/15/2014 6:30:36 PM PDT by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: jocon307

If you’re committing suicide and want family or friends to collect insurance, then doing it as a plane crash on your regular route is a better bet that it won’t be suspected as suicide. And making sure the plane goes down in really deep water like the Indian Ocean where it may not be found for a long time, if ever, helps the plan.


9 posted on 03/15/2014 6:30:38 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: mandaladon

TMZ can do something useful. Find out where Malaysian Air flight attendants go to drink. Interview them off the record about what they know about that twenty six year old co pilot.Good bet she was hitting on some flight attendant who told him to get lost. Young men when they are angry and humiliated do impulsive things.


10 posted on 03/15/2014 6:32:20 PM PDT by allendale
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To: mandaladon

It was a well planned take over executed perfectly by a well trained team. They choose a night flight so everyone would be asleep. They had studies and practiced months to archive their goals. But unknown to them other powers were at play. Very powerful powers and soon the would land there prize to discover they landed their prize in the twilight zone.

Or the morons landed the plane on the wrong island and the runway is to short to take off.


11 posted on 03/15/2014 6:33:43 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Yes, You are always right /S)
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To: mandaladon; Jack Hydrazine
I am betting on this as the reason for the hijack

Probably Iran.

New electronic weapons (EW) allow jamming, blinding, deafening and more, so that a plane could possibly vanish from radar detection and security systems would not be activated. Basic radar Electronic Counter-Measure (ECM) strategies used in electronic warfare (EW) are: 1) radar interference, 2) target modifications, and 3) changing electrical properties of air.

Anyway, the Uighur is still in Turkey and apparently was never on the plane..

12 posted on 03/15/2014 6:36:02 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: batterycommander

The Malaysian gubermint is dragging their feet on the search and investigation because they really don’t want to find the plane and the 237 dead bodies, at which time they would immediately be liable for the insurance (237 million dollars). If they don’t find them it may take 7 years to declare them legally dead. Delay is denial. Besides, most of the insurance payouts will go to the CHINESE Communist Government.


13 posted on 03/15/2014 6:39:20 PM PDT by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: nanetteclaret; no-to-illegals; Black Agnes; Jack Hydrazine
I think we need to have an ongoing brainstorm thread where everyone can bring to the table links and discussion.

John Nance was on KOMO today and said the plane was taken to 45,000 which most likely killed all the passengers...so sad.

14 posted on 03/15/2014 6:41:06 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: mandaladon

“This was my first guess.”

Mine, too-—as soon as I heard their names....


15 posted on 03/15/2014 6:41:45 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: mandaladon

D effin’ Uh! Yeah. Brilliant!


16 posted on 03/15/2014 6:42:53 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: mandaladon; All

than either 1) the cabin was depressurized to knock out the passengers and flight attendants or 2) the flight attendants were in on it...

i can’t imagine any flight attendant not figuring out something was wrong after the plane banked 270-degrees then sat in the air a while...


17 posted on 03/15/2014 6:43:03 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: mandaladon

NEITHER HAD KIDS?

Why don’t they SAY this?

Does anyone here know?


18 posted on 03/15/2014 6:44:51 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: MarMema

I agree Marmema. It is a sad situation and I agree that this would be best being brainstormed. If one comes to be (a thread), would you ping me, please. May not be able to help but will try to.


19 posted on 03/15/2014 6:46:21 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: gaijin

The pilot hd a wife and kids. The young guy, who invited teen girls into the cockpit, apparently not yet.


20 posted on 03/15/2014 6:46:39 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: mandaladon

Muslim pilot with NO KIDS = I AM NOT BOARDING THE PLANE.

Sorry..!


21 posted on 03/15/2014 6:47:32 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: mandaladon

What is truth(about MH370) in this day and age?


22 posted on 03/15/2014 6:49:12 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: mandaladon
It is presumed by U.S. officials to have crashed, perhaps after running out of fuel.

This is what you say in public to try to get a response from the perps. Classic FBI strategy.

23 posted on 03/15/2014 6:50:37 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: MarMema

Did you see this MarMema?

BREAKING

Reports coming out of China that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah’s wife and three children had moved out of the family home the day before flight MH370 disappeared.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-live-3245935#ixzz2w4tfQT89


24 posted on 03/15/2014 6:50:46 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: MarMema

In Flight Simulator, are there risks of killing your pax like there are in SimLife, SimCity, etc?


25 posted on 03/15/2014 6:51:55 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: MarMema

“U.S. officials lean toward ‘those in the cockpit’ behind missing flight”

Sounds like something I posited days ago which angered some FReepers.

The more this stuff is leaked out to the press the more I am vindicated on what I think happened.


26 posted on 03/15/2014 6:52:39 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: mandaladon

It’s too bad that we’ll never know what happened.


27 posted on 03/15/2014 6:52:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Revolting cat!

but the ice cream is delicious ... no, please don’t send more broccoli, please.


28 posted on 03/15/2014 6:58:22 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: MarMema

Saw this posted at Drudge.

Satellite data shows hijacked MH370 was last seen flying towards Pakistan OR Indian Ocean as investigators search pilots’ luxury homes and reveal one had home-made flight simulator

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2581488/It-WAS-hijacked-Malaysian-official-says-CONCLUSIVE-jet-carrying-239-hijacked-35-000-ft-individual-group-significant-flying-experience.html

I have posited previously that they would have gone to Iran, Pakistan, or North Korea because those nations have nukes.

Where would it be used? DC or NYC.


29 posted on 03/15/2014 6:59:33 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Rupert Murdoch says...

“World seems transfixed by 777 disappearance. Maybe no crash but stolen, effectively hidden, perhaps in Northern Pakistan, like Bin Laden.”

https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/444645058575630336


30 posted on 03/15/2014 7:01:56 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Malaysia Airlines Jet Made ‘Tactical Aviation Maneuvers’: Law Enforcement Officials
http://abcnews.go.com/International/malaysia-airlines-jet-made-tactical-aviation-maneuvers-law/story?id=22922961


31 posted on 03/15/2014 7:03:36 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Or maybe Israel.

Anyway what do you think of this?

maybe a test run?

(from wikipedia) "A prototype Metascreen is a claimed invisibility cloak, which is just few micrometers thick and to a limited extent can hide 3D objects from microwaves in their natural environment, in their natural positions, in all directions, and from all of the observer's positions. It was prepared at the University of Texas, Austin by Professor Andrea Alù."

Kind of an odd coincidence that both Freescale and this guy are in Austin Texas.

32 posted on 03/15/2014 7:04:26 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: no-to-illegals

33 posted on 03/15/2014 7:04:35 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: mandaladon

Another day another theory. Tomorrow they will suspect global warming.


34 posted on 03/15/2014 7:05:34 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Yep, it was planned well in advance. His family met him where ever he went to live, and hey- what Muslim country would best meet his political needs? Do we know?


35 posted on 03/15/2014 7:05:40 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

My guess is Israel. They know Obama will do nothing about it.


36 posted on 03/15/2014 7:07:46 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: Revolting cat!

EWWEEE! What is that?


37 posted on 03/15/2014 7:08:02 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

http://www.foodista.com/recipe/PVBZDCN7/wasabi-ice-cream-wasabi-aisu#


38 posted on 03/15/2014 7:12:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Thank You ... I’ve changed my mind ... That looks Great!!! Are any worms involved?


39 posted on 03/15/2014 7:13:12 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

It says, “ice-milk (wasabi).”


40 posted on 03/15/2014 7:13:39 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: MarMema

I think we have the tech already.

See this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7J3kJ5Ae3A

In regards to Israel...
Like I have said before Iran has stated in the past that they need to get America out of the way before they go to war with Israel. Plus, Iran wants to do what it can to hasten the coming of the 12th Imam (Shia version of the Messiah) and greet him with open arms.

If America was decapitated politically with a nuke going off in DC or financially by detonating it over Wall Street then it would take us out at least temporarily.

Four red blood Moons are in store for us during lunar eclipses over the next two years with each happening on Passover and Sukkot. When you have four happen back-to-back like this major events happen especially in regards to Jews and Israel so I do understand why you posit Israel.

Links for you in this regard.

Will Lunar Eclipses Cause Four Blood Moons in 2014 and 2015?
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2013/07/12/lunar-eclipses-cause-blood-moons

Four ‘blood-red’ total lunar eclipses will fall on Passover and Sukkot in 2014 and 2015, the same back-to-back occurrences at the time of 1492, 1948 and 1967
http://watch.org/showprint.php3?idx=104119&mcat=24&rtn=index.html

Messiah is supposed to go public sometime after Ariel Sharon dies.
The Rabbi, the Note and the Messiah
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23877/Default.aspx

Prophetic twist to Sharon’s imminent death
http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/prophetic-twist-to-sharons-imminent-death/

12th-century rabbi predicted Israel’s future (Messiah in 2017)
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/12th-century-rabbi-predicted-israels-future/

Egyptian Astrologer: The Jews Will be Stronger in 2014
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175827#.UtBpPbR1ItI

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4088.htm


41 posted on 03/15/2014 7:14:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: MarMema

Austin, TX...the home of many metrosexual, hipster, techie types.


42 posted on 03/15/2014 7:15:14 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: FoxInSocks; Revolting cat!

I do look for worms and broccoli.


43 posted on 03/15/2014 7:16:32 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: mandaladon

Plane is now sitting in a remote island hangar, camouflaged, getting a paint job.

EMP outfitted .. Add’l fuel cells added. Ya nvr know.

I hear Jack is back. Chloe has a new ‘do.

This is right up their alley.


44 posted on 03/15/2014 7:17:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: FoxInSocks; Revolting cat!

I see your point Fox ... http://www.life123.com/food/cooking-asian-food/sushi/what-is-wasabi.shtml ... cat ... may I have vanilla?


45 posted on 03/15/2014 7:20:24 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Revolting cat!

I’m guessing the gay angle is a red herring. There to throw people off about where the plane really ended up. Probably not in a good place. I fear this was a very sophisticated act. Not done by a single “on the down-low” pilot.

I hope I’m wrong but I would not be surprised if this was not the prelude to another very bad terrorist track!!


46 posted on 03/15/2014 7:23:58 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

as usual am suspecting chatter is off the charts though nobody is saying such.


47 posted on 03/15/2014 7:38:22 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

So now you tell me it’s all fake, dyed green?


48 posted on 03/15/2014 7:40:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I’ll trust blue, maybe.


49 posted on 03/15/2014 7:42:46 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

New info that caused them to focus on the pilot is from NSA data. That’s my guess, anyway. Explains the time gap. NSA had a lot of data to go through to find what it had on the flight.


50 posted on 03/15/2014 7:59:13 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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