Skip to comments.MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 27
Posted on 03/15/2014 6:50:47 PM PDT by aposiopetic
I've never been able to hit a cell tower and get a call through at 35,000 feet (or even at 20,000) when operating at speed. They must have much better phones in Malaysian than I do
Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent and now radio talk show host (mostly on WMAL), said today that his theory is that MH370 was trying to find another jumbo jet on an international flight in order to have a mid-air collision with that airliner.
I thought about Dans scenario, and it could be possible, IMO, that they could have been looking for a Singapore Airlines, AirIndia or Qantas flight leaving that area (or that corridor) towards the US West Coast - or London - in order to take it out in mid-flight.
1. Given the obviously high degree of precision in planning the operation. one would think they would have been at least able to come within proximity of another plane, if not carry it out successfully.
2. If that was there intent, unless they were targeting a specific flight to intercept, why head into the Indian Ocean? Far less traffic there, than over the South China Sea.
3. All airliners gave the automatic collision avoidance system..which warns if another plane is on a collision course. I think it only functions the forward 180 degrees, so to achieve surprise they'd have to overtake the plane from the rear...much harder to do, as speeds are pretty much the same, making closure far more difficult.
Of course...it’s possible!!! Ramming another jet that is airborne or on the ground, carrying regular bombs or explosives, carrying nuclear weapons, carrying poison gas cannisters or bio chemicals, flying into buildings, crashing into the ocean, crashing into land, holding passengers for ransom, etc., etc. Anything is possible.
IMHO, both Obama & his administration were asleep at the wheel on this one. The world is not safe these days...no matter where you are!!! The USA....thanks to Obama has no big stick anymore....Obama is the laughing stock of the world....and the folks that hate us are at will to do whatever they please.
Speaking of which, I think I recall reading a list of the nationalities of the passengers, and there were three (?) Americans. If so, have they been identified publicly?
Should add, that theoretical planned failed as there is no wreckage. I think we need to figure out who killed those two seals a few weeks ago.. who probably intercepted these plans.
Unlikely to the greatest extent. The best place to carry this out is near a large airport, where airplanes are plentiful and slow. The terrorist only had to continue to Bejing and pick a target there. What had happened is exactly the opposite. Presuming that the action was unopposed, it's most logical to believe that the perpetrators have achieved their goal.
Tin foil hats make excellent cell phone coverage extenders ...
The best :list I could find
The majority of passengers on the missing plane were Chinese. There were three Americans were on board, including two children: Yan Zhang, 2 and Nicole Meng, 4. No details are available as to whom they were traveling with. The third American was Philip Wood, 51, an IBM employee from Texas.
They were 4,000 miles away on a rusty old ship.
But you should notify Drudge. Hot information like that should be publicized.
You know who will be a little bit pleased about this?
Non-muslim pilot candidates.
What airline —even those of Muslim countries— will deliberately seek out muzzie pilots, at least as enthusiastically as before..?
This scary episode will reinforce the idea; “Muslim = potentially explosive person”
I think brash passengers will even inquire about the religion of the pilots, pre-flight.
They were athletes who didn’t do drugs yet died of heroin poisoning, in Seychelles.
And it was Feb 24.
Curmudgeons gonna curmudge
Thanks for the info and the link.
Initially, upon reading the claim, i first wondered, how do they know since they claim the transponder was turned off. No one has been able to answer that, yet.
But if report is true, and now learning what we have, the attempt climb to 45,000 makes sense, albeit unsuccessful. Similar reports claim the airplane then dropped to 20,000 within a minute. Indicates they stalled the airplane.
It makes sense to climb to a higher altitude if your goal is fuel economy and to drive the airplane a long(er) distance. The problem with all that, is the flight crew would have known better to attempt to climb to 45,000 feet due to lack of performance.
With only 3 or 4 keystrokes on the FMC (flight management computer), data will inform the optimum and highest altitude available given the current weight and outside temperature.
Also, if in fact 45,000 feet exceeded the performance of the airplane, which several 777 drivers have said it certainly was, the autoflight system will not allow. To do so would require disconnecting pitch mode of the autopilot, leave roll mode engaged and climb using vertical speed command.
In other words, if this report is correct, a whole lot of crap going on in the cockpit in a very short period of time. It really does appear to be fully thought out and planned.
Why are you saying the two ex-SEALs on the Maersk Alabama had intercepted these plans?
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but...what type of evidence are you using to posit this?
The original report also intrigued me.
Get in behind it and “tail” it to the destination? Destination being someplace within the fuel (or refueled) range?
Two with Chinese parents. One an IBM guy.
Yes, that’s what I’m saying. This took weeks, months to plan, and Somalia would be very invested in pulling something like this off. Especially if there was gold in cargo, a theory which is whiffing up.
No reason to take out another international flight.
The reason is to trail the other jet and look like one blip on the radar screen.
Gold...who said there was gold on that plane? That’s a motive as strong as terrorism, if there is a lot of it.
The plane has run out of gas by now...a week later, so why don’t we have a crash site?
..and don’t forget the ‘unknown’ passenger allowed as a ride along in the jump seat who isn’t on the flight manifest. I think his name was Mohammed Osama Al Zarqawi. /s
I've received texts at 35,000 when I left my phone not in airplane mode.
Directly over Salt Lake City, DEN-SMF.
It’s just one of the theories. But moving heavy gold, like moving pallets of heroin, has a lot of players who talk about what they do in their day job.
No doubt. I am former military reserve and info was always on ‘a need to know’ basis, but now even the evening news tells what terrorists would want to know and can use against us, it’s scary for our soldiers.
They prolly landed someplace. The ELTs didn’t go off, as would be the case in the event of a crash.
OK what was the name of that jihadi that was nicknamed “the pilot”?
Yep, the “news” is a bunch of fifth column-ists ....
Bunch of Blabber mouths only interested in getting the scoop and boosting their ratings.
If I were going to ram another airliner, I think I'd fly towards congested airspace rather than to one of the most remote places on the globe.
With regard to collision avoidance systems, I believe they are dependent on each airliner having their transponders on.
“However, there are a few problems with it, just off the top of my head.”
Not too mention the DOZENS of available targets, at that time, on the same very busy airway they were on.
Hmmmm, coulda been Anybody..
May not be on “manifest” but required to be on what is called “Gen Dec” General Declarations. Specially going to a foreign country, specially going to China. They not very nice if paperwork not in proper order.
TCAS works 360 degrees.
One adult and two anchor babies.
Drudge has a article on possibly Pakistan as a landing place...are there going to be ransom demands for the passengers? Or is the plane the actual target? Some of this just doesn’t make sense, unless their plan went awry and we will find the wreckage in the ocean soon.