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Cursive writing returns to Toronto Catholic schools
Toronto Star ^ | Fri Mar 14, 2014 | Kristin Rushowy

Posted on 03/15/2014 7:47:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai

When kids put pen to paper, chances are they are printing.

But Toronto’s Catholic board, hand-wringing over the handwriting skills of its students, is now looking to make sure all of them learn cursive.

Parents have told her their children can’t sign their name, “or they have been handed a handwritten note and can’t read it,” said Trustee Ann Andrachuk. She proposed a recent motion—unanimously approved—asking board staff how to reintroduce cursive in all schools, and how early children should start learning it. […]

Across Canada and the United States, concerns have been raised that cursive is becoming a lost art in an age where keyboards and keypads rule. …

(Excerpt) Read more at thestar.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arth; catholic; catholicschools; curriculum; cursive; education; thatsretardedsir; toronto; writing

1 posted on 03/15/2014 7:47:10 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

That’s retarded, sir!


2 posted on 03/15/2014 7:50:25 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Olog-hai

I was told if I wrote cursive words I would get in trouble. I couldn’t say them either. The Catholic kids couldn’t say them either. But I have always had a little trouble hearing. It made learning phonics problematic.


3 posted on 03/15/2014 7:51:38 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Yes, You are always right /S)
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To: Olog-hai
Excellent. In the days of my great grandfather there was pride in a signature and it shows. In his day a signature was to be practiced and perfected.


4 posted on 03/15/2014 7:52:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Starflower Cursive? Daz' ritarded!
5 posted on 03/15/2014 7:53:45 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: 17th Miss Regt

If you can’t read the script writing you can only read copies of the most of the founding documents like the constitution.


6 posted on 03/15/2014 7:54:02 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Yes, You are always right /S)
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To: cripplecreek

Thank you.
May Cursive continue to bring the human to the written word and the written word to the human.


7 posted on 03/15/2014 7:58:07 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: cripplecreek

The substance of that document goes far beyond the nature of its script.

The essence of it should be required of any and all entering the US, perhaps expanded to include Communist and Islamist along with Anarchist and Polygamist.

We cannot and should not interfere with the practice of free thought, association or religion on the part of our loyal citizens, but it’s time we started using more discretion as to just who those citizens are.

Time to stop clutching the vipers to our breast.


8 posted on 03/15/2014 8:04:25 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: max americana

9 posted on 03/15/2014 8:06:51 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

It was his declaration of intent for citizenship. He went through hell to get here.


10 posted on 03/15/2014 8:09:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: max americana

Bwahahaha!! Someody had to post it. LOL!


11 posted on 03/15/2014 8:09:42 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Olog-hai
A friend of mine never even knew his daughter didn't know how to write.

Besides writing, I also had to teach my granddaughter her multiplication tables.

Big deal you say?? It makes the wheels turn in your head...good for you.

12 posted on 03/15/2014 8:10:05 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: cripplecreek
My dad actually took penmanship in high school as an elective. There was never a word he wrote that you couldn't read with ease.

I do a lot of historical work. One of the guys in town is working on the school to reinstate "writing" for the whole second grade just as we did in the '50s.

13 posted on 03/15/2014 8:13:31 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: cripplecreek

I understand that.

My thought is that those coming in today are given entrance too cheaply and without the commitment and dedication to their new home that those such as you grandfather showed.


14 posted on 03/15/2014 8:27:25 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Olog-hai; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

15 posted on 03/15/2014 8:28:48 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: Olog-hai

Big believer in cursive writing here. My kids (now teens) still complain when I insist they write in cursive. My argument is that cursive is quicker (just like “shorthand”), and sometimes you need to write quickly but neatly, such as in taking class notes. And, if you write in cursive, you’ll know how to read cursive, too.

And then there’s your signature. Sitting at the bank and opening their first accounts showed them why signing in cursive is important.


16 posted on 03/15/2014 8:30:56 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: metmom

FYI - in case this might be of interest to you.


17 posted on 03/15/2014 8:33:01 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Sacajaweau

My parents even taught me multiplication tables at home. My teachers were shocked that I knew them before they taught them. Pity my parents didn’t know calculus . . .


18 posted on 03/15/2014 8:44:34 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: cripplecreek

Hmmmm....I have one of those from a great great great grandfather....never thought that he had completed it. Figured he only signed it.


19 posted on 03/15/2014 8:55:23 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Olog-hai

RACISM!


20 posted on 03/15/2014 9:00:11 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: Olog-hai

I never was very good at cursive writing. I never used it for note taking in college. For decades the only thing for which I use cursive is my signature.


21 posted on 03/15/2014 9:03:35 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Sacajaweau
My dad actually took penmanship in high school as an elective. There was never a word he wrote that you couldn't read with ease.
I do a lot of historical work. One of the guys in town is working on the school to reinstate "writing" for the whole second grade just as we did in the '50s.

My father had us practicing our penmanship for about three years every day after school for about 15 minutes when we were just beginning cursive.
HE had a BEAUTIFUL script. I still us his fancy "A" when I can.

22 posted on 03/15/2014 9:04:33 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Calligraphy was popular a hundred years ago, and we surely could benefit from learning how to write eloquently.


23 posted on 03/15/2014 9:08:50 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: max americana

A monument to fast food, GMOs, glyphosate, and hormone-treated livestock.


24 posted on 03/15/2014 9:29:32 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Paleo Conservative
For decades the only thing for which I use cursive is my signature.

My father is like you. The only examples I've ever seen of his cursive writing is his signature. Everything else is in a very bold and distinctive print. My mother is the exact opposite, her cursive is right out of the 1940's textbook she used to learn it.

25 posted on 03/15/2014 9:40:41 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: GATOR NAVY

I just closed on a house a couple of weeks ago. I normally write my signature with my first name, middle initial, and last name. One document I had to sign was different variations of my name. I had to sign my name without the middle initial. I only use that variant online. Another variant was spelling out my whole name. That was hard, because I had to think about how to write the letters of my middle name. A couple of years ago when I got my passport renewed, I aske how I should sign my name. The official at the local post office told me to sign my passport the way I normally sign documents.


26 posted on 03/15/2014 9:52:07 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes
I can't believe that they don't teach cursive writing in schools. I have noticed how many younger people print when they should be writing...OMG! how stupid, how backward! God help these kids and their parents...and the Socialist Board of Education should be strung up for damage they've inflicted on these kids with their “common apple core” curriculum.
27 posted on 03/16/2014 1:18:27 AM PDT by itssme
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Latin cursive!


28 posted on 03/16/2014 1:20:05 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: itssme

“I have noticed how many younger people print when they should be writing...OMG! how stupid, how backward! God help these kids and their parents...”

I work with many who never write as part of their work (both low-skilled workers and highly skilled); that probably plays a role in this.


29 posted on 03/16/2014 4:27:48 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: cripplecreek

That is beautiful writing by your great grandfather, cripplecreek. I particularly like the way he formed the capital letter “A” in April.


30 posted on 03/16/2014 4:46:56 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Olog-hai

Ir’a an old observation, but one wonders whether there is a class in medical school in which they teach the future doctors to write illegibly.


31 posted on 03/16/2014 4:49:14 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Olog-hai
Sorry, not on board with the consensus here.

After eight years of 1960's elementary school cursive drills. my writing was still a barely legible scrawl.

My intelligence and work ethic was good enough to earn me a four-year college scholarship, and my fine motor skills good enough for me to build prizewinning model planes, so I don't think it was me. It was the cursive.

Far better for me is Getty-Dubay italic writing, which I taught myself from the books at the link and to which I have referred several others with success.


32 posted on 03/16/2014 5:34:04 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
The upper right-hand corner of that graphic is not telling the truth. Cursive is in fact not being taught. Nor is it antiquated nor obsolete, any more than any craftsmanship or artisanship is obsolete. Frankly, the word “obsolete” is one word I find myself despising more and more these days, since totalitarian types are so fond of it . . .


33 posted on 03/16/2014 5:54:42 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I never understood why they didn’t teach some sort of universal shorthand instead of cursive. Cursive is faster than printing, but if that’s the point why not teach something that’s waaay faster than both?

Freegards


34 posted on 03/16/2014 6:05:49 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

You end up with logographs and possibly syllabograms with shorthand. Although they take up less space, you need way more of them, i.e. to represent unique sounds and words.


35 posted on 03/16/2014 6:16:58 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Right, it would be like learning a completely different very fast way of writing the language you speak. Instead of learning two very similar styles of writing the language you speak. Or am I missing something?

FReegards


36 posted on 03/16/2014 7:02:56 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: cloudmountain
When I got to high school ('57), for some reason, I started printing. My teacher said I was neurotic. That nutcase nun wound up having a nervous breakdown.

My son liked to print. (Early 70's) His teacher told him he was neurotic, too.

My granddaughter prints...I'm waiting to hear "the word".

When will teachers stop criticizing kids when they are doing absolutely nothing wrong? That's one of the problems with teachers...

37 posted on 03/16/2014 7:24:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: itssme

All of my sons complained and complained about learning cursive. (lol) The eldest can write cursive, but he rarely does. He does print in a very nice font. But, because he’s always done well in his studies - scored high on the SAT, etc. - I eventually stopped insisting on cursive writing from that son. I still keep telling him that cursive is quicker, though.

Not long ago, I told my sons that, if something should happen to me, I’ve left letters behind in a journal for them to read. Written in cursive, of course.


38 posted on 03/16/2014 7:50:26 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: kearnyirish2

Because I transferred to a Catholic school, where they had already been taught to write in cursive, from a public school where they had not, I had some learning and catching up to do. It was so enjoyable and it gave me a sense of pride to write as beautifully as I could. That was back in 1951. As I’ve aged, my writing has become shaky,and so I print instead, except, of course, when I sign my name. At this stage of my life, both forms of communication have been very useful to me.


39 posted on 03/16/2014 11:25:06 AM PDT by itssme
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To: Tired of Taxes

I like that! My handwriting at this stage of my life is shaky and my right hand is arthritic, so I must print, other than signing in cursive when I sign my name. So, I guess, in the end printing has become my friend, but how I miss the days when I devoted myself to beautiful penmanship, as the Nuns had taught me in 1951.


40 posted on 03/16/2014 11:33:06 AM PDT by itssme
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To: Sacajaweau
My husband always printed. He didn't start cursive til we married.

Lol. One time he asked me if the "n" in cursive had one bump or two. He actually continued to print anyway because he felt more comfortable with it. Besides, he was an M.E. and they always printed everything.

What does it matter if the communication is solid?

41 posted on 03/16/2014 12:45:13 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: itssme

I couldn’t imagine printing when I’m taking notes; it would just take too long. My sons have learned cursive but never use it; I hope they don’t end up having to print everything. I guess at this point cursive is almost the new shorthand.

That was a real eye-opener in the George Zimmerman trial when the witness said she couldn’t read cursive; it seems the bottom rungs in this country are so deficient in English (reading or writing it) that they’ll be forever limited.


42 posted on 03/17/2014 2:09:42 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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