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Authorities: Murder Charges Approved for Driver in Crash That Killed Off-Duty Officer
Chicago Tribune ^ | March 15, 2014 | Jonathan Bullington

Posted on 03/15/2014 11:47:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: driftdiver

Manslaughter is a felony too. Murder 1 is an overcharge, “feelgood” for the prosecutor and cops, but a sure loser if there is a trial.


21 posted on 03/16/2014 6:04:22 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: babygene

It is. Just because you can’t imagine it, doesn’t make it not so.

The next time a cop tries to pull you over and you take them on a high speed chase, try to tell the judge that you think that shouldn’t be a felony.


22 posted on 03/16/2014 7:01:24 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: KJC1

“When someone dies while you are committing a felony, felony-murder kicks in.”

Except if this had been an ordinary citizen rather than one of the cops the most she would have been facing is manslaughter. Don’t see how you can get first degree murder out of this, at most it’s second degree and even that is stretching it under most legal definitions.


23 posted on 03/16/2014 7:22:16 AM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: P-Marlowe

“The next time a cop tries to pull you over and you take them on a high speed chase, try to tell the judge that you think that shouldn’t be a felony.”

From the article: “A witness reported that Terrell’s van attempted to elude the police pursuit by driving off and back onto the Dan Ryan Expressway.”

This doesn’t sound like a high speed chase to me...


24 posted on 03/16/2014 7:35:04 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

Unless it was in a traffic jam, if it was on the Dan Ryan, it was high speed.


25 posted on 03/16/2014 8:09:03 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: babygene
This doesn’t sound like a high speed chase to me...

I guess you didn't look at the pictures of the wreck.

26 posted on 03/16/2014 8:10:06 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Coldwater Creek
Thank you for calling attention to the use of the F-bomb. It is becoming quite common everyday language, even here on FR.

It is extremely vulgar, and low-class, to use that word. Mild expletives such as "hell" and "damn" in my view are acceptable. I use them myself from time to time, for emphasis. But the "f-word" is never acceptable to me. I would hope that Mr. Robinson would put out instructions to cease and desist from using the "f-word" since it has no place in civilized discourse, IMO, of course.

27 posted on 03/16/2014 8:40:44 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: OldPossum

For a lot of Millenials and liberals the F Bomb is the only adjective they know.


28 posted on 03/16/2014 9:49:19 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: OldPossum

Roger that!


29 posted on 03/16/2014 10:29:14 AM PDT by Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha (All saints have a past...all sinners a future.)
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To: nickcarraway

Shanell Terrell.....prolly black going by the name, killed a black police officer his photo is here http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Charges-Filed-in-Police-Chase-Crash-That-Killed-Off-Duty-Officer-250491841.html


30 posted on 03/16/2014 10:36:01 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: nickcarraway
Terrell was behind the wheel of a white van and being pursued by a Calumet Park patrol officer when she plowed into Officer David Harris’ black Lexus

So in the crime stats they can put this down as a white-on-black crime...

31 posted on 03/16/2014 10:40:20 AM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: P-Marlowe

“I guess you didn’t look at the pictures of the wreck.”

Sounds to me like the officer in pursuit shot out a tire or tried to cut the van off, that resulted in the crash...


32 posted on 03/16/2014 11:50:58 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

Is it that you like career criminals or that you just hate cops?

If this were your son who was killed by this creep, you wouldn’t be arguing that he didn’t commit murder.


33 posted on 03/16/2014 11:55:27 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

“If this were your son who was killed by this creep, you wouldn’t be arguing that he didn’t commit murder.”

I would be devastated if my son were killed, however unless this was the intent of the perp, I wouldn’t call it murder. In a situation where the public is at risk, the police have a duty to stop the pursuit. (but that’s not as fun for them)

I was on a jury once where the cops were chasing a scumbag on the freeway and shined a 2 meg-candlepower light in the driver’s eyes. The car swerved toward the cop car and they charged him with attempted murder. Needless to say, we acquitted him of that. The cop was acting reckless... In the jury’s opinion, the cop should have been charged.


34 posted on 03/16/2014 12:21:06 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene
. I would be devastated if my son were killed, however unless this was the intent of the perp, I wouldn’t call it murder.

I suspect you must have flunked out of law school. What you would or would not call it is not what the law calls it. If you kill someone during a felony evasion, then you are guilty of murder. Someone already posted the law on felony evasion, and the length of the chase or the speed of the vehicle is irrelevant to the charge. He evaded the police and killed a person in the process. That is Murder. You may not like it. But that is what it is.

35 posted on 03/16/2014 12:30:17 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

“That is Murder. You may not like it. But that is what it is”

And... They may very well get a conviction. However she was charged with 1st degree murder. Doesn’t that require premeditation? Always thought it did.

She’s certainly going to be convicted of something. In my opinion if the pursuing officer wasn’t following the law, he should be convicted as well.

Interesting don’t you think that they charged her with possession of pot and murder 1. No charge for reckless driving or speeding or a DUI?


36 posted on 03/16/2014 12:55:09 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

She’s a he.


37 posted on 03/16/2014 12:59:06 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

“She’s a he.”

Shanell Terrell, a 31-year-old Calumet Park woman was ordered held on a $10 million bond Sunday.

You don’t even bother to read the article do you?


38 posted on 03/16/2014 3:08:22 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: P-Marlowe

And... Isn’t it interesting that from the pics in the article, the damage to the van seemed to be on the passenger side behind the front seat not the front or rear? How do you suppose a van could hit a car with it’s side and make such a mess out of the car?

Could it be that there is more to this than is being reported?


39 posted on 03/16/2014 3:17:43 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: P-Marlowe

“Is it that you like career criminals or that you just hate cops?”

Actually, I was brought up to love everyone. And, Chicago cops, for the most part are career criminals :-)


40 posted on 03/16/2014 3:21:56 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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