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North Korea 2014 meets Rome AD 65
LAT ^ | March 14, 2014 | James Romm

Posted on 03/16/2014 3:58:13 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

North Korea 2014 meets Rome AD 65

In Kim Jong Un's accession to power and brutal purge of his uncle, parallels are evident between the two societies.

By James Romm

March 14, 2014

This week, as the Ides of March approaches — the March 15 anniversary of the assassination of Julius Caesar, a determined but ultimately fruitless attempt by Roman senators to stop their government from sliding toward dictatorship — the minds of some ancient historians may turn in a seemingly unlikely direction: toward modern North Korea.

The dark and menacing regime of Kim Jong Un seems a long way off from the Augustan "Golden Age" of ancient Rome, an era that produced art and literature still admired today. The differences between the two societies are, of course, vast, but the parallels are nonetheless striking. In the century or so following Caesar's assassination, his successors achieved a power so absolute that they were worshiped as gods on Earth, as the Kims are today. Yet they, again like the Kims, suffered chronic insecurity about their legitimacy, and that fear led to terrible abuses.

Hereditary rulers who are not kings — who have no long tradition or constitutional authority behind them — are somewhat exotic creatures in the annals of history. They often invent new titles to describe their role in the state: Princeps, or "first citizen," in the case of the Caesars, Supreme Leader (and variants of that term) in that of the Kims. They need to foster a cult of personality to take the place of scepters and crowns, and the loyalty of their military — the Praetorian Guard in Rome; the People's Army in Pyongyang — must be prominently displayed.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kimjongun; nero; nkorea; rome

1 posted on 03/16/2014 3:58:14 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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2 posted on 03/16/2014 3:58:44 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So they invent new words for their titles and ways of doing things, uneasy with the previous ones? Interestingly familiar...

3 posted on 03/16/2014 4:23:27 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That’s nøt the ønly parallel . . .

4 posted on 03/16/2014 5:22:27 AM PDT by tomkat (3%+1)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Applies to our leaders as well.

5 posted on 03/16/2014 5:27:53 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Bingo !
Fortunately, November will begin to straighten out our problem...

6 posted on 03/16/2014 5:38:40 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The author jumped into the deep end, over his head.

There is a picture to be drawn but Kim has no empire and no legions. His pond is so small, one wonders if he is really a duck

7 posted on 03/16/2014 5:42:55 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is one of the lamest attempts to draw historical parallels that I have seen. The “parallel” is that you have one member of a family taking control of a dictatorship and then killing off the other family members. It happened over and over and over again through out history until monarchy was replaced with democracy.

8 posted on 03/16/2014 6:01:41 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster
While I'm glad to see that at least one reporter at the LA Times has some passing familiarity with Roman history, there is no relationship between the Julio Claudian dynasty and the Kim dynasty.

The Julio Claudians rose to power on the corpse of the Roman Republic. The Kims were put in power after the conquest of Japan by Stalin. Nero was a step son. Jong-un, while he may not have been crown prince, is an hereditary heir to Il-sung.

The only similarity between Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus and Kim Jong-un is that they were both little fat psychos. And anyone who thinks it would be a good thing if the Kim dynasty ended like the Julio Claudians should read a little further into the events of 69 AD and the rule of those fun loving Flavians.

9 posted on 03/16/2014 6:06:53 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Pray for the owners and staff of Ares Armor)
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To: tomkat
That’s nøt the ønly parallel.

Yeah, I think the Romans had more electricity than the Norks.

10 posted on 03/16/2014 6:48:17 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: Right Wing Assault

The other parallel is the scarcity of bark.

For the Romans, so scarce their buildings were made of stone.

For the Norks, so scarce because they eat it.

11 posted on 03/16/2014 6:54:42 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

North Korea 2014 Meets the Herodias Family BC AD

12 posted on 03/16/2014 8:09:45 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster; bert; SunkenCiv
Caligula had his horse.

Kim has his horse's ass.

13 posted on 03/16/2014 8:40:45 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

Look at the intense focus of the young woman behind Rodman. I bet she is a secret service killing machine, just waiting for a wrong move.

14 posted on 03/17/2014 8:42:57 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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14 posted on 3/17/2014 10:42:57 AM by SpinnerWebb: “Look at the intense focus of the young woman behind Rodman. I bet she is a secret service killing machine, just waiting for a wrong move.”

Virtually anything written about North Korea is inherently speculative, and I would not want to read too much into a single still photo, but you may be right.

South Koreans do have female Special Operations personnel, trained very well in the normal military tactics but also in how to appear to be something they aren't — i.e., secretaries, nurses, translators — so they can do what they need to do without arousing suspicion until it's too late to stop them. One of the few things the North Korean military excels at which is not based on brute force is special operations, and following the South Korean model plus the North Korean leadership's penchant for “female companionship,” it would not surprise me if they have some very well-trained female Special Forces personnel guarding top leaders.

At least in South Korea, women in those roles don't look like soldiers and don't look dangerous ... and that's precisely the point.

15 posted on 03/21/2014 9:30:37 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

Quite well put.

16 posted on 03/29/2014 11:47:47 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Lets quit bitching about Obama and Boehner, and do something about it.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Except Rome had far more resources; this is a tempest in a pitiful teapot.

17 posted on 03/29/2014 11:49:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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