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Billionaires With Big Ideas Are Privatizing American Science (focusing on white diseases)
New York Times ^ | MARCH 15, 2014 | WILLIAM J. BROAD

Posted on 03/16/2014 5:22:19 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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American science, long a source of national power and pride, is increasingly becoming a private enterprise.

In Washington, budget cuts have left the nation’s research complex reeling. Labs are closing. Scientists are being laid off. Projects are being put on the shelf, especially in the risky, freewheeling realm of basic research. Yet from Silicon Valley to Wall Street, science philanthropy is hot, as many of the richest Americans seek to reinvent themselves as patrons of social progress through science research.

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Fundamentally at stake, the critics say, is the social contract that cultivates science for the common good. They worry that the philanthropic billions tend to enrich elite universities at the expense of poor ones, while undermining political support for federally sponsored research and its efforts to foster a greater diversity of opportunity — geographic, economic, racial — among the nation’s scientific investigators.

Historically, disease research has been particularly prone to unequal attention along racial and economic lines. A look at major initiatives suggests that the philanthropists’ war on disease risks widening that gap, as a number of the campaigns, driven by personal adversity, target illnesses that predominantly afflict white people — like cystic fibrosis, melanoma and ovarian cancer.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: billionaires; playtheracecard; privitizedscience; science; whitediseases
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Research on diseases that does not affect all races equally is politically incorrect.
1 posted on 03/16/2014 5:22:19 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

The poor should kick in and help.


2 posted on 03/16/2014 5:25:54 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: reaganaut1

“American science, long a source of national power and pride, is increasingly becoming a private enterprise.”

Drivel.


3 posted on 03/16/2014 5:27:03 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: reaganaut1

The problem as I see it is that university and government scientists are driven to seek funding, not solutions. I’m convinced that if cancer research had no government grants it would have gone the way of Polio. Maybe private sponsorship will give us better results.


4 posted on 03/16/2014 5:27:34 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: reaganaut1
The billionaires they want to expose with a sprinkle of "WHITE" added to spice up the race card are the conservative rich white old men, not any of the democrat rich old white men and women, no no no! they are for the people (I SPIT UP IN MY MOUTH)
5 posted on 03/16/2014 5:27:47 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Zippy the a##clown sez..............)
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To: reaganaut1

Well, I recall a campaign to eliminate sickle cell anemia...


6 posted on 03/16/2014 5:28:44 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: reaganaut1

We obviously need more money for research for HIV/AIDS and sickle cell anemia.

There are a lot of rich black people. Let them throw some money in. How about Oprah?

richest black people in america

http://www.therichest.com/tag/richest-black-people-in-america/


7 posted on 03/16/2014 5:29:50 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

What? You didn’t know that Eli Whitney, Robert Fulton, Samuel Colt, Thomas Edison and Henry Ford were government employees?


8 posted on 03/16/2014 5:30:23 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Would you willingly put all of the funding for our scientific studies into the hands of people like Nancy Pelosi, Sheila Jackson Lee and Hank Johnson? It is not as though these private donors all conspire to fund some things and not others. They fund those things that the, as individuals, find interesting.


9 posted on 03/16/2014 5:31:29 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: reaganaut1

This is a basic Darwinian process........ survival of the fittest.

Being a minority with special needs means those needs can not be met because limited resources are expended for the greater good.

The whole point of the Obama presidency was to destroy the natural order.


10 posted on 03/16/2014 5:32:11 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: ronnie raygun
The billionaires they want to expose with a sprinkle of "WHITE" added to spice up the race card are the conservative rich white old men, not any of the democrat rich old white men and women, no no no!

There are plenty of rich people who are not white. Maybe they would choose to fund research into diseases which do not affect whites.

After the garbage about kids eating lead-based paint, sickle cell anemia, etc., maybe the majority race in this country should try to cure diseases which affect them. After all, unless someone is trying to kill off the majority ethnic group, it would be cost-effective to eliminate the diseases which may affect the majority of the people.

Otherwise, move to a locale where the demographics are different.

Next thing you know, we'll all be required to shoot ourselves in the foot because someone else has a limp--all in the name of "equality".

11 posted on 03/16/2014 5:36:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: reaganaut1
.. target illnesses that predominantly afflict white people ..

Good !

Sans whitey, this world devolves to North Korea in a hurry .. and stays there.

12 posted on 03/16/2014 5:36:26 AM PDT by tomkat (3%+1)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

In a word, you nailed it.


13 posted on 03/16/2014 5:39:39 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: reaganaut1

I think this article is meant to fan the fires of racism, and is not a real commentary on the state of research. Scientific research has always been funded by a mixture of public and private financing.

In my experience, private donors tend to give for specific disease research. But no one forces scientists to take money for a specific kind of research—they look for the donors funding the research they like to do, and ask for the money from them.


14 posted on 03/16/2014 5:40:26 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: reaganaut1

And everything is about breast cancer, rather than prostate cancer. I’ve never seen a blue ribbon for a prostate cancer awareness run...

It is the job of news outlets to not merely report the news, but give it an angle that makes it interesting. It’s what the NYT is doing here. They are attempting to create a story with the race baiting and culture war. But the real story is a paragraph’s worth. It’s not really controversial and won’t sell papers.


15 posted on 03/16/2014 5:41:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: reaganaut1
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16 posted on 03/16/2014 5:42:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cuban leaf
I’ve never seen a blue ribbon for a prostate cancer awareness run...

That's because lot of people with untreated prostate cancer die of old age.

17 posted on 03/16/2014 5:44:48 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I actually learned, in PUBLIC SCHOOL, back in the sixties in grade school how to use my brain to interpret news stories.

I remember the example to this day from third grade. They gave the same story in two versions.

Version one:

Man breaks in to struggling family owned bakery, doing $150 (a lot of money back then, btw) damage to the shop window and stealing a loaf of bread. Police have the man in custody. The owner of the shop is distraught at the damage to his shop and hopes customers will be patient as the damage is repaired.

Version 2:

A man who had been unable to find work, and in a desperate need to feed his family, broke a window in a local bakery to gain access to a single loaf of bread needed to feed his starving family. The police have taken him from his family and put him in custody.

Both stories were biased. One for the owner and one for the thief.

With the lesson and discussion that followed, I learned in GRADE SCHOOL how to separate the wheat from the chaff (opinion and bias) in news stories and get to the core.

We decided that the story is that a man, for whatever reason, broke the law and was in jail for his crime. Everything else was a reporter foisting his personal opinion on us. That was information for the jury.


18 posted on 03/16/2014 5:48:55 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: reaganaut1
A problem with Obamcare is that everyone's going to get government-approved solutions. There's no incentive to discover alternative solutions that are expensive to develop and probably won't make it to the approved list. There's also no incentive to come up with cheap or natural solutions when you've got "it's covered".

The only logical result will be billionaires figuring out how to get better care...for billionaires.

19 posted on 03/16/2014 5:49:39 AM PDT by grania
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To: Sirius Lee

That’s because lot of people with untreated prostate cancer die of old age.


But what of those that don’t? Or is it really pretty rare?


20 posted on 03/16/2014 5:52:02 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: exDemMom

I think people who read and believe the New York Times are among the most racist people in America. How could they not be? What effin’ crap this article is!


21 posted on 03/16/2014 5:52:14 AM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
> How about Oprah? Oprah's not doing as well as before:

Oprah Winfrey's Harpo Studios selling West Side campus

22 posted on 03/16/2014 5:56:34 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Gen.Blather
I’m convinced that if cancer research had no government grants it would have gone the way of Polio.

I wish it were that easy. Polio was caused by a single virus, and it turned out fairly straightforward to make a vaccine for it. Cancer is a general term for a lot of different diseases with complex causes. We are making progress in the fight against cancer. We can prevent a few cancers and treat others, and the death rate from cancer has gone down. But finding a permanent cure or figuring out how to prevent all cancer is still a long ways away.

There may be a lot of money in research, and it is true that scientists are always asking for funding. But they are not getting rich from it. The funding goes for lab supplies, equipment, hired help, graduate students, etc., which are all expensive. People whose main goal is to get rich don't go into research. There are many other professions one can choose if one's main goal is to get rich, and none of those other professions is as difficult to enter as science. Getting a PhD is *not* trivial.

23 posted on 03/16/2014 6:03:07 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: reaganaut1
American science, long a source of national power and pride, is increasingly becoming a private enterprise.

Because historically, so many cures have been discovered by government agencies, unlike private ones. If I can think of an example, I'll post it.

24 posted on 03/16/2014 6:04:23 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: reaganaut1

Science for CENTURIES was a private enterprise. Only the rich could afford the time and resources to noodle around with stuff.


25 posted on 03/16/2014 6:05:32 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Gen.Blather
The problem as I see it is that university and government scientists are driven to seek funding, not solutions.

I know someone going for a doctorate in biology. To quote: "the key is to find something to research that costs less than your grant."

Yes, he's a liberal.

26 posted on 03/16/2014 6:06:21 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: reaganaut1

If I remember correctly wasn’t Edison’s Laboratory and research center a ‘Private’ entity and so was Bell Labs, Westinghouse and others?

Really now, it’s only been since NASA came on the scene that the Government got it’s grubby fingers into the research ‘Pie’ in earnest. And now today private industry and the Universities look first to government to fund their research.


27 posted on 03/16/2014 6:07:48 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Alas Babylon!

“What? You didn’t know that Eli Whitney, Robert Fulton, Samuel Colt, Thomas Edison and Henry Ford were government employees?’

Well, it is plain to me that they were until the budget was slashed to the bone. My kids history book probably says that. How could our congressman be so uncaring by repeating history and cutting our budget today?


28 posted on 03/16/2014 6:10:17 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: cuban leaf

My dad died of prostate cancer 2 years ago. It’s far from rare I believe.


29 posted on 03/16/2014 6:10:41 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
The poor should kick in and help.

Instead of sitting on their butts and doing nothing, maybe they could get a home chemistry set and start doing their own experimentation

30 posted on 03/16/2014 6:11:09 AM PDT by BRL
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To: Gen.Blather

And the funding that they seek is all politically based.


31 posted on 03/16/2014 6:12:55 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: reaganaut1
So they want less private research done... how long before they make it illegal?
And they want to demand that private research be done in accordance with their PC (read: racist) agenda, rather than the agenda of those who are putting up the money... how long before all research must be done after filing tons of red tape with useless in-house EEOC-type officials?

This is getting so tiresome that I'm almost eager for the shooting to start.

32 posted on 03/16/2014 6:15:27 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

The biggest problem with cancer treatment research is that some of the most effective treatments require lifestyle changes for the patient and don’t provide huge profits for the medical industry.


33 posted on 03/16/2014 6:15:57 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: reaganaut1
Private people will generally fund research into diseases that have hit their family members and friends. They will want RESULTS, preferably in their lifetimes.

And they will primarily give funding to the people who they think are most likely to produce results, without regard for "diversity" or affirmative action.

34 posted on 03/16/2014 6:19:48 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: reaganaut1

Yet another irony that the left decries Republicans cutting research dollars, then cuts real research even deeper in the name of subsidizing faux science.


35 posted on 03/16/2014 6:20:33 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: exDemMom

“Cancer is a general term for a lot of different diseases with complex causes.”

One problem, as I see it, is the metric the government chose; shrinking the tumor. So, treatments were developed which did that, but they only worked on a percentage of the continuous mutations. When the treatment wiped out the mutations it was effective against (causing shrinkage) only the mutations it was not effective against were left to multiply.

The government insisted on a molecular biological approach and only funded those efforts. Alternative approaches like treatments that prevented the growth of feeder arteries and veins were not investigated until recently. Some scientists urged treating symptoms rather than trying to kill the underlying mechanism as that is a moving target. They didn’t get government funding and the government is the only game. Survival rates for some cancers hasn’t changed since the ‘50’s, which would argue for a different approach.

I don’t accuse scientists of getting rich. But when I worked at a college lab they viewed grants as their job, not finding solutions. I’m sure there are dedicated scientists. But they must share funding with hacks who simply like university life.


36 posted on 03/16/2014 6:21:38 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: ilovesarah2012
There are a lot of rich black people. Let them throw some money in. How about Oprah?

They can fund all the black scientists to work on black diseases.

37 posted on 03/16/2014 6:22:47 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: Gen.Blather

Global warming exists because of government grants. Period.


38 posted on 03/16/2014 6:23:37 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: reaganaut1

Relax!
WIth Obamacare, only officials in the Federal Gov’t will have access to state of the art medical care.

The rest of you peasants have a “duty to die”, lest you deplete the coffers of the vote buying, entitlement programs.


39 posted on 03/16/2014 6:24:45 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: exDemMom

“There are many other professions one can choose if one’s main goal is to get rich”

I was at a wedding reception last night for a couple of Duke PhDs. They seem to be doing just fine moneywise.


40 posted on 03/16/2014 6:24:58 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: reaganaut1

DUH only a few diseases are race centric. My Endo’s office is full of all races. Fibromyalgia-FMS, MD, MS, LGD no know color, nor doses the Big C cancer. FMS is symptom treated, and the drugs make it worse as they have the same side effects as the disease.

OA/OP hits all races too. Diabetes, thyroid issues, digestive issues, you name it any race could have it. No one is immune from GERD/IBS either.

Breast cancer can come down the Male line. My 2 Aunts married 2 brothers, both their daughters have the genetic link from their dad’s side. And some of their daughters have it to, to pass on to their daughters.

Orphan diseases like FMS are not being well researched, 1-2% of population have it 80% are women, most are also Hypothyroid. So add GENDER to that idiot article.

Damaged Care Break Down of Health Care
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/liveonline/02/health/health052102.htm

First Do No Harm
http://www.naturalhealthstrategies.com/ketogenic-diet-movie.html


41 posted on 03/16/2014 6:26:41 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: cuban leaf

Les Miserables.


42 posted on 03/16/2014 6:26:48 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: bert

“Being a minority with special needs means those needs can not be met because limited resources are expended for the greater good.”

Actually, there is a debate about that. You will make more money if you can cure baldness in men rather than a fatal rare disease. Ditto for acne.

Patent law currently gives more years to “orphan drugs” which only treat rare fatal diseases.

Then of course there is the basic research vs. applied research debated.

Basic research is knowledge for knowledge sake but often leads to great advances, quantum leaps if you will down the road but also often leads to dead ends and wasted money.

Applied research is research to solve a specific problem which has a higher success rate but is rarely a quantum jump.


43 posted on 03/16/2014 6:28:25 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: reaganaut1
I'm thinking that the center for medical research will shortly shift to India and China.

They have the smart people, and they have lots of poor sick people who would be willing to engage in clinical trials in exchange for a shot at a cure. The single biggest research expense in US research are the testing and trials. They also don't have the trial-lawyer overhead to worry about if some of the clinical trial test subjects get hit by side effects.

They would still have to do US clinical trials to get FDA approval, but they would ONLY need to test drugs that already passed their trials. And if the US FDA is slow on granting approval for Chinese cancer treatments, that just means that US cancer patients will get on a plane to Hong Kong.

44 posted on 03/16/2014 6:29:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: beef
I was at a wedding reception last night for a couple of Duke PhDs. They seem to be doing just fine moneywise

Really?

A PhD probably earns more than someone with a BS in the same field, but the average family physician earns significantly more than the PhD, and a specialized physician earns several times more. I have talked to physicians who earn over $400,000 per year--while I may never see a 6 figure salary with my PhD. That's okay--I didn't go into science for the money; no one does.

45 posted on 03/16/2014 6:32:36 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: reaganaut1

“Joking that his [Obama] grades in physics made him a dubious candidate for “scientist in chief,””

You don’t say? How about releasing your university records so we can all get the joke? /not holding breath.

“In Washington, budget cuts have left the nation’s research complex reeling. Labs are closing. Scientists are being laid off. Projects are being put on the shelf, especially in the risky, freewheeling realm of basic research.”

And just whose fault is THAT? Maybe if the scientist in chief wasn’t spending a trillion dollars on “stimulus”, requiring NASA to spend scarce funds on Muslim outreach, and doing his best to expand the welfare state, we might be able to fund a few more projects. *SMH*


46 posted on 03/16/2014 6:36:00 AM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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To: beef
a couple of Duke PhDs. They seem to be doing just fine moneywise.

I would think Duke faculty would be paid well. What field were they in?

47 posted on 03/16/2014 6:36:04 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: A'elian' nation

“Global warming exists because of government grants. Period.”

You’ve got that right. It’s the politics of fear. In the ‘60’s it was an upcoming ice age, peak oil and Russian nukes. Global warming was easier and you could ascribe any horror to it you wanted; mass migrations, flooded cities, total human extinction, the rise of dreaded conservatism...

And, if it gets too ridiculous, you ridicule the other side and declare them evil deniers. Shun them! Cancel their funding until they see the light.


48 posted on 03/16/2014 6:36:21 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: DemforBush
“Joking that his [Obama] grades in physics made him a dubious candidate for “scientist in chief,””

I guess he's NOT the smartest man in the room all the time. Let's give him a high school physics test and see how he does. Or maybe some "gotcha" physics questions from interviewers.

"President obama, please state Newton's Second Law and give us a few examples in daily life."

49 posted on 03/16/2014 6:40:45 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: reaganaut1

Look at everything impoverished people of color have given us and see how we repay them... By increasing our own control over God’s diseases! All you need to do is catch a glimpse of any ER on any weekend night and you can see how the white establishment uses its ill-gotten powers to manipulate the health and welfare of America’s under-appreciated class. It’s time for these oppressors: the inventors, creators, business owners, patent holders, to bow out and make room for the new leaders. It is their savvy, their drive, their long-quashed determination, that will move America forward. First, however, let us please help give them free food and stuff.


50 posted on 03/16/2014 6:48:22 AM PDT by golux
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