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(Seattle's socialist Kshama) Sawant: We're moving forward with $15 per hour
KIRO TV ^ | 3/13/14 | (Seattle's socialist Kshama) Sawant: We're moving forward with $15 per hour

Posted on 03/16/2014 6:52:39 AM PDT by Libloather

SEATTLE — Kshama Sawant said she needs to see progress on a $15 per hour minimum wage soon, or she and her supporters will move ahead without the help of her fellow city council members and the mayor. She said if there is not significant progress soon she will start collecting signatures to put a minimum wage measure on the ballot. Sawant said signatures are due June 10.

The socialist council member is holding a rally this coming Saturday where she will lay out her latest plan of action moving forward.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bluezones; sawant; seattle; socialist; wage
There was also a $15 an hour rally of 10 to 15 people outside the Space Needle Thursday evening.

I'm guessing they were just random pot smokers wandering around.

1 posted on 03/16/2014 6:52:39 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Somebody tell them that $15 is not half enough. Raise Seattle’s minimum wage to $30/hour.


2 posted on 03/16/2014 6:54:33 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Libloather

Human labor??? Too expensive!! Just put everyone on welfare and have them buy the stuff the machines make. Sustainable? Probably not, but who cares? Short-term thinking is what it’s all about, and right now driving low-skill workers out of the workforce sure seems like a swell idea! What could go wrong?


3 posted on 03/16/2014 6:57:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Libloather

All this does is move the pay scale up, create wage-push inflation, and make American products less competitive internationally.


4 posted on 03/16/2014 6:58:15 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: BenLurkin

She’s an immigrant academic/politican who has never made a payroll in this country.


5 posted on 03/16/2014 7:00:08 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: BenLurkin

Great idea, but not radical enough!
$100/hr for everyone!
Maybe we should make sure that no one in Seattle makes less than anyone else in Seattle? So, no matter what job you have, you make the same hourly wage!


6 posted on 03/16/2014 7:00:39 AM PDT by yevgenie (Does one really need to add sarcasm tags?)
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To: BenLurkin

My first full-time job out of college in the early 00s netted me just over $15/hr with benefits. I was able to move out of my mother’s house and get a cheap apartment with a buddy of mine in a not-so-nice part of town. Granted, it was my first job, I was a college graduate, and less than 5 years later, I was making almost double that. It was a start.

The problem, as I see it, is that these welfare mommies and losers want to subsist on this pay including the buying of new cars, big screen TVs, eating dinner out at fancy restaurants every night... this is scraping-by money, this isn’t what any normal person would call a living wage, but I digress because I’m starting to sound like a liberal.


7 posted on 03/16/2014 7:01:49 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Libloather

Does she pay her ‘supporters’ $15 an hour ?


8 posted on 03/16/2014 7:02:03 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Libloather

This is great! It’ll be just another in a great chain of Democrat initiatives that have the end result of screwing over all of the people who listened to and followed them.


9 posted on 03/16/2014 7:02:40 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: The Working Man

Another reason to call them uninformed or just plain stupid?

Are the Administration and Unions trying to shift subsidies onto the private sector?

The constant push for higher minimum wages, as high as $15, would shift the burden of subsidizing low income and low information people to the private sector.

Government will be praised as heroes while (un) intended consequences would make life worse for those poor subjects who will follow like lemmings down the proverbial cliff.

What they will encounter is to lose eligibility for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid and other State and federal programs, leaving them worse off than before. Because of their newly found “wealth”, they would be classified as the “new middle class” courtesies of their compassionate Administration. All the while the federal coffers would increase because of cost savings.

The evil Corporations would be blamed for causing this problem for not paying for extra subsistence.

I don’t believe that that calculation has not already been made by the Agencies?

This is only my personal opinion and I could be wrong.


10 posted on 03/16/2014 7:07:56 AM PDT by americanbychoice3
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To: Libloather
Savant??? Oh,Sawant. Nevermind. /Latella
11 posted on 03/16/2014 7:07:58 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Screw the farmers. I can get everything I need at the grocery store.)
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To: Libloather

Oh, I just love how socialists work tirelessly to increase the gap between the rich and the poor. It gives them more “social injustice” to whine about!


12 posted on 03/16/2014 7:10:18 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Democrats don't understand the organic nature of the economy, nor do they see that every action creates a corresponding reaction.

They still haven't put together the cause and effect of attacking and laying burdens on business and the negative impact on those people in the middle class and at the bottom of the economy.

They never will.

13 posted on 03/16/2014 7:11:00 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Libloather

Not surprising since Seattle has a statue of Vladimir Lenin, one of the godfathers of communism and inspiration for Earth Day.


14 posted on 03/16/2014 7:11:02 AM PDT by newfreep
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To: Libloather

15 posted on 03/16/2014 7:11:22 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: newfreep
Seattle's finest...


16 posted on 03/16/2014 7:15:32 AM PDT by newfreep
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To: UCANSEE2

Obviously non-profit organizations will be exempt from the law. Also, most likely exempt will be those employers who sign collectively bargaining agreements with left-wing unions such as the SEIU.


17 posted on 03/16/2014 7:19:51 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Libloather

She is a complete nutcase. Seattle does this, and watch all the business flee to the east side of Lake Washington.


18 posted on 03/16/2014 7:20:21 AM PDT by CityCenter (Resist Obamacare!)
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To: BenLurkin

I’m surprised these idiots don’t tout the ‘Basic Income Guarantee’.


19 posted on 03/16/2014 7:22:18 AM PDT by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: americanbychoice3

You have some very good points. I see things like inflation ramping up with the increase in the ‘base’ wage. I also conversely see businesses large and small saying ‘To heck with this I’m going to automate everything!’

I can also see the Alternative Minimum Tax kicking in for more and more people. Yep that’ll teach them to actually work when being on welfare brings home more money in the long run.


20 posted on 03/16/2014 7:22:31 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Libloather

Why stop at 15 go for 50 or a 100. Heck, we could all be Zimbabwe millionaires.


21 posted on 03/16/2014 7:25:23 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Libloather

Somebody’s got to pay. Those who pay for the goods services taxes and anything tied to the cost of the minimum wage increase.
This spells INFLATION or currency devaluation. Bad for you bad for me bad for the country but evidently inconsequential to liberals.


22 posted on 03/16/2014 7:25:36 AM PDT by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not ju st selectively for Democrats.)
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To: Libloather
Hello, robo-burgers!
23 posted on 03/16/2014 7:26:32 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Libloather

[Idiot] Sa[v]ant said she needs to see progress on a $15 per hour minimum wage...


24 posted on 03/16/2014 7:29:11 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: C210N

You know what America should push. The dissolution of municipal, government unions across the board. Get 10 million signatures and force a vote from Americans.

When the rats attack it, use it as a campaign ad. Democrat X supported more money for unions which was kicked back to X as campaign cash. Then show a picture of Detroit with the tag line, “Coming to a city by you.”

That’s how we beat the rats.


25 posted on 03/16/2014 7:43:29 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: newfreep

Vandalizing that statue should be considered free speech. Over and over, and over . . .


26 posted on 03/16/2014 7:44:19 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: Libloather
Woman emigrates to this country and starts demanding stuff.

Pathetic.

27 posted on 03/16/2014 7:44:59 AM PDT by Vision (Living in beauty)
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To: Vision
Woman emigrates to this country and starts demanding stuff.

Socialist emigrates to this country and people elect her to public office. That's the real issue and we only have ourselves to blame.

28 posted on 03/16/2014 7:46:48 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Libloather

One result I can see happening from forcing the $15 per hour minimum wage is the natural suppression of raises above that rate. The people who were already making about $15 per hour or more simply won’t get a raise in the future. The rookies who just started working at the business got the money, instead. A workers’ paradise—everyone equal! (sarc)


29 posted on 03/16/2014 7:49:36 AM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: Libloather

I do think that the $15/hr will pass in Seattle...either thru the city Counsel or thru a public vote. I’ve stopped being surprised by how liberal Seattle has become and what the citizens vote ‘yes’ for...things I would never consider voting yes on.

One issue for the businesses in Seattle is there are very few places for people making min wage to $15 hour to live w/in the core of Seattle. And of course, there is no inexpensive parking available. Employees in those sort of jobs have to take a bus or ride a bike to get to their jobs. But isn’t that how it is in most large cities? My first job in Seattle required a bus ride into the city and I shared a house w/ several other women.

Raising wages to $15 is still not going to be enough to be able to afford Seattle housing. And I think the higher wage will hurt small businesses and will not really achieve the goals of being a ‘livable’ wage. IMO it just pushes the dial to higher prices for everything.


30 posted on 03/16/2014 8:17:11 AM PDT by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: Libloather

The national debt is nearly $18T. They must devalue the dollar to the point where this debt will amount to nothing.


31 posted on 03/16/2014 8:37:28 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: CityCenter
She is a complete nutcase. Seattle does this, and watch all the business flee to the east side of Lake Washington.

Per the last two or so elections trends, the east side is no longer a haven of middle or right values. Lots of Lear Jet Liberals these days

32 posted on 03/16/2014 8:44:14 AM PDT by llevrok (F the government)
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To: Libloather
She said if there is not significant progress soon she will start collecting signatures to put a minimum wage measure on the ballot.

Please go ahead...to put an end to this nonsense

Does she think business owners and ordinary citizens don't vote?

Anybody with half a brain knows a minimum wage at $15.00 an hour will increase the cost of just about everything in fast food, retail, small business...etc...

33 posted on 03/16/2014 8:50:58 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NonValueAdded
Savant??? Oh,Sawant.

Both of which can be prefaced with the word "idiot".

34 posted on 03/16/2014 9:13:00 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Washington: "I cannot tell a lie". Obama: "I cannot tell.....I lie")
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To: Maine Mariner
Also, most likely exempt will be those employers who sign collectively bargaining agreements with left-wing unions such as the SEIU.

This is the actual driving force behind the push for "living wages". No one wants to voluntarily join unions anymore, so they are attempting to force the issue by having the companies do the forcing.

35 posted on 03/16/2014 9:17:35 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Washington: "I cannot tell a lie". Obama: "I cannot tell.....I lie")
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To: Libloather

And a Happy Meal will be $17. See Norway.


36 posted on 03/16/2014 9:18:59 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

LOL


37 posted on 03/16/2014 10:05:17 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Screw the farmers. I can get everything I need at the grocery store.)
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To: Libloather

Someone please notify the ILLEGALS and the UNEMPLOYED, who are looking for work, that Seattle is the PLACE to go.


38 posted on 03/16/2014 10:07:18 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Libloather

“She said if there is not significant progress soon she will start collecting signatures to put a minimum wage measure on the ballot.”

As a politician, this woman is a fool. Threatening a direct vote on the matter is no threat at all, but merely an invitation for any council members on the fence to duck out of the issue by saying “You know what Kshama, that’s a GREAT idea! Let’s just hold off on this issue while you gather signatures and see if you can get this on the ballot, and if you can, then we’ll know for sure what the voters REALLY want!”


39 posted on 03/16/2014 10:17:13 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: riri

“And a Happy Meal will be $17. See Norway.”

Exactly. And the person making quarter pounders at McD’s for $15 minimum wage won’t be able to afford one.


40 posted on 03/16/2014 10:22:10 AM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: catnipman
As a politician, this woman is a fool.

Precisely. Activists are in the minority pretty much by definition even if they tend to have the biggest microphones. It leads to the mistaken assumption that all that noise means something. A few years ago gun control activists tried this "can't miss" approach in putting their programs to a vote in Washington State in Initiative 676. It got stomped 5-2 even in liberal Seattle.

41 posted on 03/16/2014 10:23:42 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

As a relative guage of Sawant’s wisdom, she was the local Socialist council member who earlier this year told the Boeing union workers that they should turn down the company’s contract offers, forcibly take over the Boeing factories, and convert the “machines” to making things like buses rather than “weapons of war” (like your average airliner). Now she wants everyone to take her advice on minimum wage. Why not?


42 posted on 03/16/2014 10:35:34 AM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: Avid Coug

future member of congress


43 posted on 03/16/2014 10:37:10 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: The Working Man

2 edged sword more money for those who work in must have business and all the fat producing “Fast Food” joints closing down in the city. (however as Walmart proved, if the city does not want the tax revenue the outlying towns do)


44 posted on 03/16/2014 10:53:36 AM PDT by Foolsgold (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Libloather

It is sobering to realize that this fool taught economics at Seattle Central Community College. Her students should file an educational malpractice suit. I have heard this woman be interviewed; there is no doubt she is a fool beyond description.


45 posted on 03/16/2014 11:04:24 AM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: catnipman
"Let’s just hold off on this issue while you gather signatures and see if you can get this on the ballot, and if you can, then we’ll know for sure what the voters REALLY want!”

She should make her petition demand $50 an hour. Who wouldn't sign up for that?

46 posted on 03/16/2014 12:10:34 PM PDT by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: BenLurkin

$50,000 @ year! so that one wage earner can provide a “living wage” for a family of 4. Wait ... that is $30 @ hr.


47 posted on 03/16/2014 7:44:24 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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