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HHS (Dept. of Ed.)Swat Team Raids Home Over Student Loans
The Last Refuge Blog/ Conservative Treehouse.com ^ | June 8 2011 | Staff

Posted on 03/16/2014 8:58:56 AM PDT by wildbill

A father was dragged from his home and handcuffed in front of his children by a SWAT team looking for his estranged wife – to collect her unpaid student loans...

Mr Wright was later told by Stockton police that the order to send in the SWAT team came from The U.S. Department of Education who were looking for his estranged wife to collect defaulted loan payments. 

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conditioning; confrontationwatch; donutwatch; feos; policestate; policrstate; studentloans; swatteam
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REALLY? Was this necessary? The father and kids spent six hours confined in a police car while the crack swat team searched the house for the "criminal".

I know a lot about Student Loan program and there are some really draconian provisions to collect unpaid student loans. I don't know of any provisions that raise the unpaid loan to a criminal case.

You really need to go and read the entire article to get the full impact of this raid--including the fact that the person who owed the unpaid loan didn't live at that address according to the father.

1 posted on 03/16/2014 8:58:56 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill

So there are well over a million unpaid student loans. Why go all Elliot Ness over this one?


2 posted on 03/16/2014 9:04:52 AM PDT by AU72
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To: wildbill

That’ll learn ‘em.


3 posted on 03/16/2014 9:06:17 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: AU72

Setting an example.


4 posted on 03/16/2014 9:06:23 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: wildbill

Depart of Education can order a JBT hit?


5 posted on 03/16/2014 9:07:45 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: wildbill

And we were wondering why the DoE needed those billions of rounds of ammo....


6 posted on 03/16/2014 9:08:12 AM PDT by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're shouting "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: wildbill

We’re they expecting to find large piles of cash to collect from?


7 posted on 03/16/2014 9:08:19 AM PDT by Husker24
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To: BenLurkin

Only in a police state.


8 posted on 03/16/2014 9:09:05 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Jonty30

“Setting an example.”

I’m not going to read the article as I don’t need convincing the government has become boundless in power and stupidity. But I’m guessing this guy didn’t own a dog, or the headline would have included, “and shot his dog.” I’m convinced the rash of dog shootings are intended as pure intimidation. Abusive parents frequently kill their kid’s pets to intimidate them. That’s what government has become, an abusive parental figure.


9 posted on 03/16/2014 9:10:16 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: AU72

Individual agencies given permission to harrass the tax paying public, sounds like the liberty tree needs some watering, no?


10 posted on 03/16/2014 9:10:50 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Zippy the a##clown sez..............)
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To: wildbill

This is a very old article:

Posted on June 8, 2011

That does not make it less alarming.


11 posted on 03/16/2014 9:11:28 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Drango
That’ll learn ‘em.

I do love a dry sense of humor!

FMCDH(BITS)

12 posted on 03/16/2014 9:11:33 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: wildbill

To those idiot college age students who love Obama and Obamacare this is what you have to look forward to. Because of your support Obamacare nationalized the student loan industry. Don’t get dizzy spinning how that was essential for reforming health insurance.


13 posted on 03/16/2014 9:12:35 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: wildbill
REALLY? Was this necessary?

About as necessary as excerpting a blog.

14 posted on 03/16/2014 9:12:49 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: wildbill

This story cant possibly be true


15 posted on 03/16/2014 9:13:36 AM PDT by Rome2000
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To: wildbill

So now we know why they need all those bullets. Pay up or die. Seems I remember that the law stated that you could not be imprisoned for your debts, but then when has Obama ever obeyed the law?


16 posted on 03/16/2014 9:20:09 AM PDT by macglencoe (You see what the left hand is doing, but you should be watching the right hand.)
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To: wildbill
Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...

Why ?

17 posted on 03/16/2014 9:24:26 AM PDT by tomkat (3%+1)
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To: AU72

the student loan industry was private, and has recently been taken over by the government. The dept of education loans money, sets tuition rates, hires instructors and collects from students. It also manages curriculum and, as well, degree requirements.

the same people decide who gets into school. These people tell our high schoolers what they need to do to get into school If kids are not Hispanic or black, they have to be working for four years, either as volunteers or for a wage. It has to be consistent over 4 years, or at least two or three.

THe kids are treated like adults by teachers, parents and employers, and especially teachers, who load them with busy work, saying, well they have to get used to it.

No basis for that teaching theory, of course. No basis for any of this.

Parents buy into all of this. No one is at home. No one is allowing these kids a moment of alone time. Time to do nothing but think and contemplate anything, like, for instance, what they want to do.

There is no formation, zero time for God. They have no romance, just hookup. No culture, there is no culture, no good books, movies, history lessons. there is nothing just give to this education system as if the kids owe everybody.

Parents are so stupid. They are buyinginto this system.

THis story is not an example of what I’m talking about, but whoever lent this woman this kind of money should be held responsible, but it’s the government. THey exist, as do colleges, now, to take from kids. Giving them an education is not a priority. NOt for the schools.

No one is taking care of the kids.

We are taking from them and they are not going to have anything. Not a country, not money to take care of us in our old age -government pension money will come from them, as does any government money - it comes from taxation, the workers.

I wish people would pay attention to this.

the government has taken over the college loan industry.


18 posted on 03/16/2014 9:24:38 AM PDT by stanne
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To: macglencoe

Well at least there was no report of a dog being shot, maybe thats why the father received such harsh treatment because the swat team was pissed that they could not shoot their dog as they did not have one.


19 posted on 03/16/2014 9:28:32 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Husker24
We’re they expecting to find large piles of cash to collect from?

Seriously! What exactly was the end result they were expecting?
20 posted on 03/16/2014 9:32:12 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I realized it was old—but I hadn’t seen anything about it, had you?

The path to destruction of our freedoms is littered with signposts that are missed, sometimes because of the overload of information and sometimes because of deliberate policy by the news media to treat these things as non-events or not newsworthy.


21 posted on 03/16/2014 9:33:28 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Organic Panic

It is silly to blame kids.

We want them to be on their parents dole to age 26, yet we want them to vote at age 18.

No one under the age of legal drinking should vote. No one who doesnt own property or work in the military should vote. No one who is on food stamps or welfare should vote.

We set the rules, and we are to blame for the outcome.

Any parent who allows their child to go to school which the government is running, which includes all schools who accept government loan money, is responsible for this mess.

Kids of the age of 16 are making decisions about college.

Parents who refuse to counsel wisely are responsible for this mess.

And those who hate and blame kids are going to be the recipients for a lot of hate and blame from the same kids who, when they are in their fifties, have to pay for their parents’ retirement situation. If the money isn’t there, it will be because we allowed our government to spend it and waste it. We are overseeing the deficit enlarge to $20 trillion. It is now $18 trillion unchecked. of course it will be at least $20 trillion by the time BO is done.

that’s not our kids’ fault. That’s wimpy republicans. they can’t even blame Obama, they know what he is. Better than we do, they know who he is. THe ONLY one who is trying to protect our kids is the same person who read a kids book from the senate floor.

It is up to them, the ones who work for us, not the kids, to do something about this.

Every parent who is, as it is their job, informed about college, knows that they are allowing their kids to become indebted to the government in college, is responsible for this.

A lot of good it’ll do parents to continue hating kids and blaming them when the country is a disaster in 20 years, when these whiners need these kids, who will be 40, to support their retirement.

Make it stop!


22 posted on 03/16/2014 9:37:56 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

SERIOUSLY? I’m afraid there would be bloodshed (not mine) should that ever happen. (Jail time for me but it would definitely send a message back).


23 posted on 03/16/2014 9:43:34 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: wildbill

SWAT team LOVE ANY excuse to exercise their power.

It’s like shouting “squirrel” to your dog.


24 posted on 03/16/2014 9:43:54 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: wildbill

SWAT team be racist. Calling Rev. Sharpton..

Welcome to Acirema. Is your flag upside down yet? If not now, when?


25 posted on 03/16/2014 9:45:54 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: wildbill

This is three year old “news”.


26 posted on 03/16/2014 9:49:24 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Progov

Should what ever happen?


27 posted on 03/16/2014 9:50:35 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

the student loan industry was private,


Just a little history.

First they were National Defense student loans in the 60’s.

Then they were National Direct Student Loans in the 70’s.

Then they were private and now they are back to the govt.


28 posted on 03/16/2014 9:55:56 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: wildbill

so they handcuff the dad?!?

man they are reaching for stuff to bust your door down.


29 posted on 03/16/2014 9:57:09 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Loans are not just in the hands of the government.

Student loans are now, as of a couple of Obama years ago, in the hands of the department of education.

There is a serious conflict of interest going on here.


30 posted on 03/16/2014 10:01:35 AM PDT by stanne
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To: wildbill

Kaliphorniastan. What did you expect? And here I thought the UK had stupid responses to scofflaws.


31 posted on 03/16/2014 10:04:50 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice.)
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To: wildbill
Actually this was posted on FR back in 2011.

Not sure about the accuracy of the story.

32 posted on 03/16/2014 10:06:13 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: AU72
So there are well over a million unpaid student loans. Why go all Elliot Ness over this one?

They have his voting records and political affiliations - he not a commie in good standing.

33 posted on 03/16/2014 10:29:08 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: wildbill

It would be nice before posting old article to check for updates ....

This was not a simple ‘unpaid student loan’ issue.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/cae/news/docs/2014/2014_02/02-06-14WrightWilder.html

Convictions and prison ...

fraud, identity theft


34 posted on 03/16/2014 10:42:53 AM PDT by TexasGator
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Left out the part about the financial aid fraud investigation, didn’t they?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/09/unpaid-student-loan-raid-claim-refuted-as-feds-target-california-couple-in/


35 posted on 03/16/2014 10:47:36 AM PDT by PAR35
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They have his voting records and political affiliations - he not a commie in good standing.

Come on. Play the card. He's black, so it has to be racism. Everone knows that the powers in Washington (Holder and Obama) hate blacks. You don't think they'd do this to a white Republican like them, do you. /s

36 posted on 03/16/2014 10:51:25 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: wildbill

Why in hell do we allow a student loan guarantee agency to have a SWAT team ????????????????????? Who ( other than a dictator ) would even think of such a thing ? Only criminal gangs like the Chicago mafia had such collection methods for overdue loan funds. And they had a code of honor to at least give you warnings before taking “adverse action” against you, too Does your local water department have a SWAT team yet ? Coming soon, SWAT teams for your cable tv, too. ........(....well, At least we won’t need so many courts. Judges. Lawyers. So the “thugification” of collecting overdue accounts does have some positive elements , ha. )


37 posted on 03/16/2014 10:53:20 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("H)
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To: PAR35

See my #34.

Convicted.

Fraud and identity theft.


38 posted on 03/16/2014 10:53:33 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: faithhopecharity

“So the “thugification” of collecting overdue accounts does have some positive elements , ha.”

This was not an overdue loan. It was fraud and identity theft. Convicted and now spending time in jail.


39 posted on 03/16/2014 10:55:01 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Well, at least the original post tracks the original Daily Kos version.


40 posted on 03/16/2014 11:02:22 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: wildbill

Department of Education, huh?

Well, I’m sho nuff getting schooled.


41 posted on 03/16/2014 11:06:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: TexasGator
I have had collection letters for one of my daughters loans that I cosigned, the loan was paid off 4 years ago and I have the paper work.

I also have a Lawyer, one of the best in Mass, waiting to collect his 33% when they sue me and I counter sue. His kid is in medical school and he can use the money.

42 posted on 03/16/2014 11:14:34 AM PDT by Little Bill
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To: wildbill

I noticed that the original article is from the Daily Mail in 2011 and has been removed from their web site. Blogs don’t count for much without some sort of verifiable original source back up. It also helps if the story is current.


43 posted on 03/16/2014 11:23:21 AM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: wildbill

My loans are paid up, but maybe I ought to put a a tripwire out for any SWAT teams busting down doors for this type of shit.


44 posted on 03/16/2014 11:28:03 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: TexasGator

I see.
we still pay for an FBI to handle such violations (and the FBI was itself highly controversial at inception, as many objected to the federal government setting up a domestic “police force” along lines similar to the long-standing objections in this country to a “domestic army” — such as, of course, Obama’s desire that he be permitted to build a domestic military force “at least as well equipped as our (foreign) military forces”)

so anyway, now the federal student loan bureaucrats have their own SWAT teams. Something to keep in mind in case any of your kids ever want to apply for this supposed “benefit”...


45 posted on 03/16/2014 11:43:04 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("H)
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To: wildbill
Mr Wright was later told by Stockton police that the order to send in the SWAT team came from The U.S. Department of Education...

Shows the mindset of local police these days. Any sane chief would have told the Dept. of Ed., "You've got to be kidding me! I'm not about to activate my SWAT team for this nonsense."

Instead, we're lucky no cop fired a weapon. That's the amazing part of this story, unfortunately.

46 posted on 03/16/2014 12:03:10 PM PDT by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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To: houeto

Don’t believe anything Mr. W. says.


47 posted on 03/16/2014 1:38:02 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: wildbill

Actually, it was a good lesson for the “kids”—pay up or get rousted.


48 posted on 03/16/2014 1:40:28 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: houeto

Can you image the amount of live fire had these LEO raided the daytime workplace, which is a dog pound?


49 posted on 03/16/2014 1:42:19 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Chuckster

The article I posted had links and references to the Daily Mail story.

The reason I posted an out of date story is that I didn’t see it the first time around and figured most of us on FR didn’t either since it isn’t something that the MSM would think was important. Did yu see it back then?


50 posted on 03/16/2014 6:29:44 PM PDT by wildbill
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