Skip to comments.Church must reconcile divorce and remarriage, German cardinal says
Posted on 03/16/2014 10:57:01 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town
LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - Speaking on Vatican Radio, the German theologian said that "I propose a path that goes beyond strictness and leniency."
Finding a medium between these extremes "isn't against morality, it isn't against doctrine, but rather, (is meant) to support a realistic application of doctrine to the current situation of the great majority of people and to contribute to people's happiness," he said.
Prayer, fasting and almsgiving.
Referring to a lengthy talk he gave last month entitled "Gospel of the Family," the talk will be published in March in German and Italian by private publishing houses.
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The root of the problem is the very poor leadership of the local bishops and their instructions to the parish level priests as to what is truly relevant to the weekly sermon and religious instruction. Couple that with the abandonment of the Catholic Schools by many of the diocese and we leave exposed more and more Catholic souls to the spiritual death that is the secular schools and their societal teachings.
It is difficult to combat hours of highly secular and sinful teachings a week in a single hour every Sunday. That is IF the Catholic actually bothers to show up every Sunday. We already KNOW that fewer than forty percent actually do.
This is NOT a problem with the ordinary Catholic it is the direct result and problem caused by the terrible leadership and almost every level of the Church hierarchy.
Simply put: Actions and decisions have consequences. To get remarried after a divorce that is not subject to annulment is to live in a state of sin. It is committing fornication. It is no less a mortal sin than homosexual sex or bestiality. They are all sins of the flesh. All cut a person off from Gods grace and expose them to the terrible truth of an eternity in Hell without the benefit of being in the presence of God.
The road to hell is paved with the skulls of erring priests, with bishops as their signposts. St. John Chrysostom
The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops. St. Athanasius, Council of Nicaea, AD 325
It must be observed, however, that if the faith were endangered, a subject ought to rebuke his prelate even publicly. St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica II, II
Go be a Lutheran then, dumbkopf.
My sister married into a Catholic family. It was a miserable marriage as her husband slipped into alcoholism. Then he developed delusions and started writing letters to President Carter rudely instructing him in how to deal with Iran. (I actually wanted to do that myself, but didn’t.)
She divorced him. If you ever had any doubts that divorce can be necessary and isn’t always because people just don’t try, this should put them to rest. There was no way she could have helped him. (Her father-in-law had his son committed.)
I don’t see anything wrong with your post.
We have to pray for the clergy.
...till death do us part...
I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you...
...till death do us part...
People that remarry are no more sinners than you are or anyone else. We are all sinners. All sins are "mortal sins" except through faith in Jesus Christ.
What’s the problem with getting an annulment. No one in the Church thinks that suffering with a mentally ill spouse is something God wants for anyone.
I’m not sure what the law is. From what happened, I suspect a divorce is the legal instrument of the state and an annulment is an instrument of the church. It’s my understanding that afterword he got an annulment.
The Church already has a process for that, Bishop. It’s called anullment.
“People that remarry are no more sinners than you are or anyone else. We are all sinners. All sins are “mortal sins” except through faith in Jesus Christ.”
No. Not all sins are mortal sins. 1 John 5:16
There is venial sin and serious sin which may be mortal sin. Mortal sin is usually only known to God. Serious sin is often apparent to everyone. The in your face homosexuals and people who divorce and remarry as well as abortionists etc. are in a continual state of serious moral wrongdoing and serious sin.
Forgiveness requires sorrow for sin and amendment of life. “Go and sin no more.”
The divorced and remarried must go and sin no more just like the rest of us.
“The wages of sin is death.”
Not a good idea for sinners to pick apart various sins and judge which ones are worse than others. Jesus said if you have anger in your heart you have committed murder. Pretty tough stuff. Is someone that re-marries worse than than a murderer? I say leave such judgments up to God.
And by the way in regard to “Go and sin no more” there is no such thing as a mortal man not sinning any more as long as they live on this Earth.
Well, you didn’t mention annulment in your post.
The rules are simple and they are available to all Catholics in the Catechism. And they are very simply stated in the matrimonial vows. no Catholic marriage is any more complicated than what is stated in the vows.
When one of the two does not live up to the vows, an appeal can be made by one or both of them to the church for the church to discover whether there was a problem with the sacrament at its inception, during the wedding.
The Church decides, in it’s wisdom, after careful consideration whether there was a valid sacrament.
The couple is married until that is made final, or until one of them dies.
If they don’t like the rules, they don’t have to get married.
If they are not interested in permanent marriage, then they don’t have to enter into matrimony, which is permanent.
They have choices.
I will never ever understand nor accept that people don’t know te rules.
The couple is in Church of free will. They promise to love and honor.each other until one of them is dead.
There is nothing more simple than that.
Don’t marry an idiot. If you find out they are an idiot after you get married, appeal to the Church to take a look at it and help you out in order to have a chance at a happy marriage in the future.
there is nothing to figure out there.
Please think a little deeper. You seem to be missing fine distinctions.
Of course we all sin. Some sins are serious and they may be periodic or ongoing.
If we are caught up in serious ongoing sin we must stop so doing as obedience to Jesus’ words “ Go and sin no more.” Those words were spoken to Mary Magdalen, a person caught up in serious ongoing sin.
Jesus Christ himself gave clear teaching on marriage and remarriage in Matthew 19. If that isn’t good enough, the German Cardinal will get to explain himself to God on judgment day. Good luck with that.
Yes, but as the verse I posted says not all sins are sins onto death. Not all sins are mortal sins.
Annulments are not easy things to obtain. You have to prove there was no “real” marriage to begin with. If the husband could be proven to have mental issues before the marriage, then perhaps an annulment is possible.
Otherwise ...you take your husband in sickness or in health, til death do us part.
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