Skip to comments.With 79% Turnout, Exit Polls Confirm 93% Of Voters Back Crimea Joining Russia;
Posted on 03/16/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy
With a voter turnout (79.09%) that exceeded every US Presidential election since 1900, the people of Crimea have spoken:
*CRIMEA JOINING RUSSIA BACKED BY 93% OF VOTERS: EXIT POLL Ukraine's leaders have called up 20,000 men for a newly-created National Guard as despite the so-called "truce" Russian APCs and Tanks are rolling. Pro-Russian supporters are burning books in Donetsk after storming anti-Russian buildings. The White House is already out rejecting the vote (before the final results are released).
Voter Turnout (by region):
As exit polls confirm overhwleming support for Crimea to join Russia...
Exit poll by Crimea-based Republican Institute for Political and Sociological Studies released by Kryminform news service.
93% of voters back joining Russia: exit poll
(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...
I don't like this at all, especially given the names above.....
Full title: With 79% Turnout, Exit Polls Confirm 93% Of Voters Back Crimea Joining Russia; White House Rejects Results
I don’t understand all of the issues as well as I could, I suppose.
After the Soviet Union fell apart, all of the individual regions within the Soviet Union became independent countries, based on popular will, right?
Russia was simply the largest country within the old Soviet Union.
So now, if we see a piece of the old Soviet Union voting to join Russia, isn’t that a reflection of popular will too? Am I missing something?
I confess I don’t have a great knowledge of Russian/Soviet history, or other background issues that may be involved. But from what I hear, these are ethnic Russian peoples who want to be part of Russia.
Obama likes democracy only when it goes his way. The Crimea result is repudiation of Obama.
That large a margin all but guarantees Putin can’t say “no” to Crimean accession to Russia. Its a done deal.
It was a mere fluke that Crimea went to Ukraine in the first place.
You do understand that the only choice on the ballot was...YES!
They had a choice to stay with Ukraine.
As Stalin and Obama believe: It doesn’t matter who votes, only who counts the votes.
Ukraine wants to go with Russia?
Chop you low Obama...
Russian troops in the streets, anyone who thinks this is a legitimate vote is crazy
Who counted the vote? Russian troops?
Now or later.
Most voters opted for now.
But its rich to see Obama denounce the whole thing... when he got 101% of the vote in some precincts in this country.
Obama knows how to rig elections - he’s the expert.
Yes, broadly speaking you are right. Of course one can argue whether the referendum was carried out under the threat of occupation (by the Russians), but according to the recent history and the reports from journalists in the region the result appears to reflect the general view of the local population.
Now, if the present day politicans in Ukraine, Russia and elsewhere could take a leaf out of the story of Czechoslovakia where Slovakia was peacefully allow to seceed in 1993 (the Velvet divorce) things could probably be solved in a reasonable way, but the likelihood of that is very slim.
Voting with a gun to their back
only only one of those names deserves to be taken seriously
So the Russian troops are standing inside every voting booth?
In 1956 Crimea was given as a gift to Ukraine from Russia. It didn’t matter so much then as it was all part of USSR.
“You do understand that the only choice on the ballot was...YES!”
Make that ‘Da’, baby;)
Next on Putty’s menu the Baltics.
Ya got to love it...
How come Jimmy Carter wasn’t sent as an emissary to monitor the vote?
They belong to NATO, so that’s a whole other kettle of borscht.
They make more sense, given the demographics of the Crimea than the last US POTUS election.
Was it last week or two weeks ago that the Fat Boy of North Korea received 100% votes in the democratic election there?
As legitimate as the vote in Philadelphia, or any other urban area in this country.
#2 DA DA
The Baltic countries are NATO members. As long as that oganization exists it is unlikely, no make that very unlikely, that Russia would interfere with those countries. What is of interest now is what is going to happen in eastern Ukraine, the Donetsk area. Will they also demand referendum? Will Russia move troops into those areas as well?
The Crimea has more Russians in it than Ukranians and they mix like oil and water.
I really do not seeing them uniting willfully and the Ukraine would be smart to allow this to happen for a price.
The EU has its hooks in Ukraine, and looked at medium term and long term the only likely choices were being subject to Russian bureaucrats or EU Bureaucrats.
Independent Ukraine needed a champion and with the election of Obama there ceased to be one available.
This is partially a lesser of two evils elaction since you don’t have to be very bright to forcast the impending EU collapse and how bloody it will inevitably become before its over.
And you know that how? Putin has been playing chess, testing the opponent and winning. NATO has proven itself to be a paper tiger.
The ballot paper is here:
Option 1: Rejoining the Russian Federation
Option 2: Returning Crimea to the 1992 constitution as an autonomous province of Ukraine.
Two choices (only) on the ballot - part of the Russian federation or an increased freedom within Ukraine (according to a now defunct constitution).
Interestingly enough it may well have been the second choice that would have been wished for in the Kreml. That would have put the ball back in Kiev’s lap, and the Crimean votes would still have counted in the upcoming elections, where it is far from a foregone conclusion that the Maidan parties would win.
If this is “democracy”, then northern California and Colorado should have no liberal resistance to forming their own states.
That large a margin all but guarantees Putin cant say no to Crimean accession to Russia. Its a done deal.
With an overwhelming vote like that, Putin is appearing as a savior, an image he can now use to move on to annexing the eastern Ukraine. The chessmaster Putin is taking the idiot Obama to school.
“The Crimea result is repudiation of Obama”
Putin 1 - Obama 0
With the Crimean seats now vacant in the Verkovna Rada, two million pro-Russian votes are gone.
This means Ukrainian nationalists should easily win the May 25 election.
Not what Moscow really wanted but at least it now has Crimea as a consolation prize.
Don't forget the EU. Remember it all started when Yanukovich refused to sign a deal with the EU. And the EU (aboslutely) (and probably the US) supported the Maidan demonstrators.
The Baltics, and especially Estonia have large and restless Russian minorities, unhappy to be cut off from Mother Russia. What would stop Putin from intervening to “protect” the Russian minority? What would NATO do?
The point? The point is that throughout the history of Russia, and not just in the last century, the country has been an imperial power with unstoppable appetite for its neighbours. Has anything changed?
Yes, exactly. That’s why I and others have assumed that Kreml hoped for the other alternative, but the situation has really got out of hand for all participants, and possibly Putni considered this result was seen as “good enough”.
Which Crimeans have no desire to be part of. They’ve formally left the country but that was already clear for some time. And now the forthcoming Russian annexation has the stamp of democratic legitimacy behind it - and Kiev and the West are reduced to talking about illegality.
Not much! And unfortunately for the Baltics they have always been situated between two (or more) voracious powers; Sweden and Russia, Germany and Russia, Germany and the USSR, and now the EU and Russia.
Yes, the EU is an imperial power, though it has so far only used "soft power" and the power lent it by the US.
Why did Russia ever want to cede Crimea in the first place, and that at the Sinkmeister’s request? I can only think it was so Ukraine would nurse it to better health, then comes the grab like today.
The US Civil War formerly started not even over the secession but over federal properties that were seized by the seceded states. Well surely this Crimea has just walked away (or been walked away) with he Ukrainian equivalent. Just “curious” how that little matter is going to stand. I am not so sure Ukraine wants to just forgive it.
One reason apart from the NATO membership not to be too worried about the Baltics is that they have handled the euro-crisis somewhat better than the other countries. The economy is on its way up at the moment (but that can surely change due to the Ukranian crisis) and therefore the social/ethnical problems are less acute than they were only a few years ago.
No, Crimea was ceded to Ukraine in 1954 by Chrustjev. It remained that way when the USSR broke up.
Maybe Putin does know best, and solved a seemingly impossible situation. I pray that is so.
Meanwhile, instead of all of this talk about the US defending Ukraines border, how about defending our own southern border and kicking invaders out of the US?
But what about all the resources Ukraine sunk into that place. Gone. And Russia is surely going to keep having the nerve to harangue Ukraine about their gas bill.
Bye, Bye, California, and New Mexico, and half of Texas.