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93% of voters suppport Crimea's accession to Russia exit polls
Voice of Russia ^ | 3/16/2014

Posted on 03/16/2014 11:53:06 AM PDT by 5etester

Polling stations in Crimea have closed, the referendum is over. According to the exit polls, 93 percent of people voted for Crimea's accession to Russia at the referendum.

A total of 93 percent of residents of Crimea voted for joining Russia at a referendum on Sunday, an exit poll publicized by the Rossiya 24 TV channel shows.

Seven percent of Crimeans favored being a part of Ukraine, it shows. The voter turnout exceeded 80 percent, the Crimean News Agency reported.

The voting ended at 20:00 pm local time. Crimeans were able to cast votes at 1,205 polling station. Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_16/93-of-voters-suppport-Crimeas-accession-to-Russia-exit-polls-8596/


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; crimeareferendum; eurasianunion; europeanunion; revanchism; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 03/16/2014 11:53:06 AM PDT by 5etester
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To: 5etester

“. . . you don’t know how lucky you are, boy . . .”


2 posted on 03/16/2014 11:55:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 5etester

I cannot help but ask a question — what if in the future, the vast majority of a California city decide to join Mexico? Will the USA let it?


3 posted on 03/16/2014 11:55:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It might be tempting to get it off our back that way.


4 posted on 03/16/2014 11:57:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 5etester

The tribe has spoken.


5 posted on 03/16/2014 11:57:54 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why do you think we’re downsizing our military?


6 posted on 03/16/2014 11:58:44 AM PDT by satan (The tree of liberty is dying in the drought.)
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To: 5etester

What are the ODDS that Russias media is as controlled as our own?.. (or more)
Meaning polls will say whatever the oligarchs want it to say..

You know............................. like ours..


7 posted on 03/16/2014 11:58:57 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Olog-hai

“Back in the USSR” I’d wondered what that was talking about exactly because AFAIK nobody had left the USSR only to rejoin, when that song was published. But it looks like the Bear has just grabbed Crimea into the Russian Federation. Whatever that means.


8 posted on 03/16/2014 11:59:42 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bienvenidos a la Alta California?


9 posted on 03/16/2014 12:00:04 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: satan

The Devil you say, satan!


10 posted on 03/16/2014 12:00:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“I cannot help but ask a question — what if in the future, the vast majority of a California city decide to join Mexico? Will the USA let it?”

That is exactly the issue, and the reason diversity and the failure to assimilate is such a bad idea. Liberals, with their insistence on keeping groups separate and identifiable have set us up for real problems.

Look up “The Conch Rebellion.” Key West succeeded from the union and declared independence. The US government set up a customs station and harried the heck out of people going both ways as if it were a border, making it a several hour affair in the hot sun. They also cut off power and water until Key West decided they had made a mistake.

I was astonished at how seriously the government took that bunch of bozos and at the hardball the government played.


11 posted on 03/16/2014 12:00:53 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: hosepipe

You mean after Putin took them over last December?


12 posted on 03/16/2014 12:01:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: hosepipe

The US and other western countries have supported very similar secessionist movements in many other places, making it more than a little difficult to take a principled stand against this one.

Example: Kossovo.

Crimea, historically, is less a province of Ukraine than Tibet is of China.

Another example of chickens coming home to roost.


13 posted on 03/16/2014 12:03:46 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind

If you’ve ever seen Los Angeles County..it already IS Mexico


14 posted on 03/16/2014 12:04:18 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Olog-hai

15 posted on 03/16/2014 12:04:58 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Gen.Blather

Well yeah if you want to be not part of Florida then you got to live with it. That’s survivable if you are a heavy commerce center like Singapore. Not for kicked back Key West.


16 posted on 03/16/2014 12:05:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 5etester

“Unexpected?”


17 posted on 03/16/2014 12:06:08 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Sherman Logan

Crimea was supposedly ceded to Ukraine. But it would not be surprising if the Bear had actually wanted Ukraine to modernize it at the Ukraine’s expense, then pull a grab like right now.


18 posted on 03/16/2014 12:07:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 5etester

I’ve heard that Crimea has also voted to change their name to “East Kosovo.”


19 posted on 03/16/2014 12:09:11 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Won’t happen. Vast majority of Mexico origin Californians escaped from Mexico. Why would they vote to join Mexico?


20 posted on 03/16/2014 12:10:13 PM PDT by entropy12 (If you did not vote, you helped elect the community organizer from south side of Chicago.)
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To: 5etester
A total of 93 percent of residents of Crimea voted for joining Russia...

Too bad they did so poorly compared to the precincts in America that voted 100% for Obama in 2012.

21 posted on 03/16/2014 12:11:48 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

At the time Singapore became independent, it was universally believed that it would quickly become a failed state.


22 posted on 03/16/2014 12:12:25 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: HiTech RedNeck

All the vote did today was reverse Nikita Khruschev’s 60 year old “gift” of Crimea to Ukraine.

Its the final codicil to the disappearance of the USSR - and Russia resumes its sovereignty over the peninsula - with the expressed consent of its inhabitants.

Ukrainian nationalists should be happy Crimea is no longer a means by which Russia can make Ukraine’s life miserable. They should look at the Crimean reversion to Russian rule as a blessing in disguise.


23 posted on 03/16/2014 12:12:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sherman Logan

And mirabile dictu it did not. It became an envy, if a somewhat tyrannically run one.


24 posted on 03/16/2014 12:13:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 5etester

It was not 183%? Man, the Russian propaganda machine is not what it used to be. They should call our LSM for some refresher courses...


25 posted on 03/16/2014 12:14:07 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: goldstategop

If true then it mostly hurt Ukraine’s feelings. But still. Will the Bear be happy with this? Has it shaken off that old USSR grumpiness?


26 posted on 03/16/2014 12:15:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Putin can’t ladle the gravy as well as Baraq, LOL


27 posted on 03/16/2014 12:15:53 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

When Crimea was transferred to Ukraine, both Russia and Ukraine were part of USSR.

So it was sort of like transferring the UP of Michigan to Wisconsin. Nobody at the time thought it was particularly important.

If they had, the transfer would probably never have taken place.

It should also be noted that the inhabitants did not freely decide to become Ukrainians. IOW, this reaccession to Russia has arguably more democratic and electoral legitimacy than the earlier transfer to Ukraine.


28 posted on 03/16/2014 12:16:18 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: 5etester

Mmmmhmmm. And any believers of that poll ... wanna buy a bridge?


29 posted on 03/16/2014 12:18:38 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: 5etester

The Tatars boycotted.


30 posted on 03/16/2014 12:19:32 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Sherman Logan

I think Yoopers would be quite upset to find themselves Wisconsinites.


31 posted on 03/16/2014 12:19:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Sherman Logan

And anyhow Russia was the center of this mess and the whole thing was often called “Russia.”


32 posted on 03/16/2014 12:20:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Plus Crimea gets a President for Life thrown in with their vote today. No need for anymore votes.


33 posted on 03/16/2014 12:21:57 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Singapore is ranked #2 in the world for economic freedom.

Arguably, their economic freedom would diminish if political freedom and other individual rights were permitted.

USA is #12, BTW.

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking


34 posted on 03/16/2014 12:22:28 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Nobody asked Yoopers what they wanted, anymore than people living in Crimea were asked if they wanted to be part of Ukraine.


35 posted on 03/16/2014 12:24:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

If one just wants to see it as a business center and not as a place to live, I guess so.

Forget their (in)famous canings, they were badgering Singaporeans to marry and other stuff that even Michelle Obama never thought of.


36 posted on 03/16/2014 12:24:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 5etester

Those reports prove the election was massively rigged by Putin’s Russian regime, because the demographics alone make such an election result quite impossible. The Ukrainians make up something on the order of more than 25 percent of the population and the Crimean Tatars more than 12 percent of the population. The ethnic Russians are fewer than 58 percent of the population. Many ethnic Russians in the Crimea were loyal to the Ukraine and wanted to have nothing to do with Putin’s autocratic Russian government. At the very most a fair election result would have seen no more than a 45 percent vote in favor of annexing to Russia, and a far more likely result would have been around 9 to 12 percent in favor of Russian annexation.

Another way of knowing with absolute certainty the voting was rigged and fraudulent is by looking at the ballots. The ballots presented the voter with only two choices. One choice was for the Crimea to declare independence from the Ukraine. The other choice was for the Crimea to declare independence from the Ukraine and request Russian to annex the Crimea to Russia. The faked vote chose to become annexed to Russia. Nowhere on the ballot was there any option to vote in favor of remaining the territory of the Ukraine.


37 posted on 03/16/2014 12:24:29 PM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Sherman Logan

Everybody knew Russia was running the show. It would be like giving a piece of DC to Maryland or Virginia. Then welshing on it.


38 posted on 03/16/2014 12:25:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Yup. The voters decided that and we can argue til we’re blue in the face whether this referendum should have been held under other circumstances.

Nevertheless, the result represents a new geopolitical reality. Whether Kiev and the West come to terms with it is their problem. But its clear Crimea is gone to Russia for good now.


39 posted on 03/16/2014 12:27:18 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Gen.Blather

Problem too with Caleeeforneeea that isn’t often mentioned is that its many cities and towns were founded with spanish names. Los Angeles, Santa Cruz, San Rafael etc...
so the south of the border types have a natural affinity to be associated with it. Of course there are other factors but this is a factor IMO —albeit not the major one for illegals.


40 posted on 03/16/2014 12:27:29 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I am all in favor of caning for certain crimes.

In America we don’t cane teenage vandals and cause them to spend a week in the hospital on their bellies.

No, we’re much too kind for that.

We pitch them into jail for six months with hardened criminals. At great risk of assault and quite possibly repeated gang rape.

If I were a teenage vandal, I know which punishment I’d prefer.


41 posted on 03/16/2014 12:29:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: tflabo

All the freebies come from the state government and the federal government. They won’t vote to do away with the benefits smorgasbord.


42 posted on 03/16/2014 12:29:30 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Sherman Logan

And you’d need a very stern tyranny to prevent the inevitable revenge.


43 posted on 03/16/2014 12:31:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Ukrainians and Tatars boycotted the referendum. And even if the status quo had been offered, very few voters would have chosen to stay with Ukraine. Of those who did choose the broader autonomy option, only 7% backed it.

Basically that means 9 out 10 ethnic Russian voters chose rejoining Russia, which is pretty impressive considering that ethnic Russians make up 60% of Crimean population. Anyway, I have no doubt this is the democratic desire, freely expressed, of most Crimeans.


44 posted on 03/16/2014 12:32:49 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 5etester

So 93% voted to seceded from Ukraine and the other 7% voted to secede from Ukraine.
No option for ‘Russia go home’.


45 posted on 03/16/2014 12:34:14 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: goldstategop

I assume there were international observers, and we’ll be hearing more about how “fair” the results were.

Something that hasn’t gotten a lot of mention is that Ukraine is a basket case economically and politically.

It doesn’t seem unreasonable to me that a good many in Ukraine would vote to be part of Russia simply because it is at present a reasonably stable state. Especially if they didn’t have longstanding emotional ties to Ukraine.

After all, Ukraine has only been an independent state for less than 25 years. Not a lot of time to work up a tremendous amount of patriotism.


46 posted on 03/16/2014 12:34:52 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind

The question is dumb because Mexico has nothing to offer Californians. That’s why Mexicans (hardly the majority) come here. Apples and oranges.


47 posted on 03/16/2014 12:36:30 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RedMDer

If the majority had been Ukrainian, Russia would never have gone into Crimea.

Then it again its fortuitous most of the population was already pro-Russian.


48 posted on 03/16/2014 12:36:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Highly doubtful.

Never mind Yanukovych being the Kremlin’s man.


49 posted on 03/16/2014 12:39:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Revolting cat!

Tatars = Muslims


50 posted on 03/16/2014 12:40:16 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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