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How will things change in Crimea if it joins Russia?
Washinton Post ^ | 3.15.2014 | Tiffany Harness

Posted on 03/16/2014 12:31:40 PM PDT by mac_truck

Let’s start with money matters. Who will pay the pensions of retirees who paid into the Ukrainian system?

Voters are being told that Russia will assume the obligations for all pensions, with a big leap in benefits. For example, the average monthly pension in Russia is said to be about $270, almost double the $150 paid in the average Ukrainian’s monthly pension. And the retirement age will drop by five years, to 60 for men and 55 for women.

And what about schools?

Schoolchildren are expected to get new history books with a more outsize section on Russian history and its version of events, such as World War II, which Russians and Crimeans refer to as the “Great Patriotic War.” Officials say that for the next year, at least, Crimeans will be allowed to enroll at Russian universities without taking an entrance exam. Next year, they will have to take the regular Russian enrollment exam.

Will people working in government offices, schools and hospitals lose their jobs?

Authorities have vowed that nobody who is doing satisfactory work will be fired, and most will get raises.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: constitution; crimea; crimeacrisis; crimeareferendum; putinsbuttboys; russia; secession; surrendermonkeys; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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Interesting article about the practical aspects of the impending Crimea separation
1 posted on 03/16/2014 12:31:40 PM PDT by mac_truck
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I guess we’ll be entering a brave new world tomorrow! These are issues that have never been faced before in human history. /sarc


2 posted on 03/16/2014 12:38:17 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: mac_truck

Its all about the money, stupid.

Crimean voters look on Russia as Sugar Mommy. They’d be stupid not to take Moscow up on all the ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching, coming in.

Future generations will decide if it was folly or a sound investment.


3 posted on 03/16/2014 12:43:42 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: mac_truck
"I've seen the future and it works."

Spin another fairytale.

4 posted on 03/16/2014 12:47:34 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: mac_truck
"If you like your Crimea, you can keep it. Period!"
- V. Putin
5 posted on 03/16/2014 12:54:09 PM PDT by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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A very expensive welcoming present for Russia. The vote was the fun part; now the bill is coming due.


6 posted on 03/16/2014 12:56:36 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: mac_truck

Nice - the Post’s biggest worry is whether the entitlements will keep being paid!


7 posted on 03/16/2014 12:58:00 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: mac_truck

Obama will be devastated, deeply saddened and he will impose a red line.


8 posted on 03/16/2014 1:05:09 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jeffersony")
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“A very expensive welcoming present for Russia. The vote was the fun part; now the bill is coming due.”

In the long term, this is an investment with the likelihood to pay off, big-time.

A secure blue-water port for Russia’s growing oil and gas exports is huge in itself. And the new Kerch Straights Bridge will be a combination car and rail connection to the Russian Mainland.


9 posted on 03/16/2014 1:07:32 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: goldstategop
Crimean voters look on Russia as Sugar Mommy. They’d be stupid not to take Moscow up on all the ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching, coming in.

Yes, especially when the flip side of the coin is EU/IMF imposed Greek-style austerity.

10 posted on 03/16/2014 1:09:44 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: tcrlaf

No more having to pay Ukraine rent on the Navy base in Sevastopol.

If its turned it into a few trade zone like Kaliningrad Oblast, it could even become a lucrative cash cow for Russia.

And Crimea again would become a summer playground for the Russian elite.


11 posted on 03/16/2014 1:10:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Are you this delusional to think Putin a Soviet KBB agent had an actual vote?
These people have tanks and men wearing black masks in thecstreets all around them !
The outside media was barred from the voting areas!

The Russians killed or imprisioned millions of Ukraines , turks, greeks in the last century in this region.

Reading your non stop pro Putin propaganda is surreal.
Are you kidding us with your crazy posts.


12 posted on 03/16/2014 1:33:21 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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Zero will pay for Russia's Crimean venture and portray it as a goodwill gesture of heroic proportions...Here I Come to Save the Day!!
13 posted on 03/16/2014 1:38:15 PM PDT by Rudder
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http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03/15/russias-propaganda-war-on-ukraine-reaches-soviet-levels-ahead-of-crimea-vote/

this is the Putin Soviet propaganda your peddling here !


14 posted on 03/16/2014 1:43:22 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: goldstategop

Not sure the people have a choice...sure they are letting people vote but really the election is corrupt and with Russian troops right there who could really stand up and say anything against what is happening?

All the promises sound familiar though...how people will all be so much better off...we keep being told the same thing...


15 posted on 03/16/2014 1:47:02 PM PDT by Tammy8
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16 posted on 03/16/2014 1:48:28 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: mac_truck

This article paints a rosy picture for the 58% ethnic Russians. Sucks if you aren’t. The per cent Russian also gives a measure of the fairness in the vote. But that was never the point was it. FWIW the other Ukrainian provinces don’t go above 39% ethnic Russian. 17.8% Russian overall with the western provinces having 2% to 4%.


17 posted on 03/16/2014 2:02:29 PM PDT by JimSEA
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“Nice - the Post’s biggest worry is whether the entitlements will keep being paid!”

Well spotted, and good point.


18 posted on 03/16/2014 2:10:10 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: JimSEA

Exactly. Its a mostly ethnic Russian province.

Latest projection is 95.5% for joining Russia!

If it had been below a “9” I would have been colored surprised.


19 posted on 03/16/2014 2:18:30 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jtal

I also notice they take the Russian “promises” of manna at face value, without the slightest question.

Even in Europe, it’s all about the Gibsmedat.


20 posted on 03/16/2014 2:20:36 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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