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Another plane like Malaysia Airlines flight 370 vanished with GPS tracking
News Australia ^ | March 17, 2014

Posted on 03/16/2014 7:18:20 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

IN an age of constant information, the missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370 has been dubbed the biggest mystery in aviation history. A plane of its size has never dropped out of the sky. Or has it?

In 2003, a Boeing 727 jet also disappeared. It was the largest aircraft to ever vanish without a trace. This plane, like MH370, had all the mod cons and was fitted with GPS.

A crew member looks out the windows from a Malaysian air force CN235 aircraft during a search and rescue operation to find the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. Source: AFP

At Luanda airstrip, Angola, an American engineer Ben Charles Padilla and his new Congolese assistant John Mikel Mutantu, boarded the Boeing 727. It had the tail number 844AA. The men were meant to get the plane in shape for its next flight.

Neither engineer had a commercial pilot’s license or permission to be in the cockpit — yet suddenly the 153-foot plane taxied to the runway and took off.

Just before its sunset takeoff, the aircraft’s headlights and transponders were switched off.

Both men failed to answer calls from air controllers.

Authorities watched as the jet headed southwest towards the Atlantic Ocean. It was the last sighting of 844AA.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 727; angola; aviation; benjaminpadilla; malaysia; missing

1 posted on 03/16/2014 7:18:20 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t remember hearing about this. It was never found?


2 posted on 03/16/2014 7:29:25 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Maybe there’s some island of misfit planes out there, where they go when they’re lonely or feeling bad about themselves.

Yeah, that’s it. That’s the ticket.


3 posted on 03/16/2014 7:30:01 PM PDT by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Maybe it was David Copperfield.
4 posted on 03/16/2014 7:33:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Boeing_727-223_disappearance


5 posted on 03/16/2014 7:33:41 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Was that Padilla pilot any relation to the one that was involved with terrorism..I think his name was Jose Padilla


6 posted on 03/16/2014 7:34:38 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Perhaps Rod Serling had the answer:

The Twilight Zone: The Odyssey of Flight 33
7 posted on 03/16/2014 7:36:06 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hide in Plane Sight (June 18, 2003)

Family of Possible 727 Pilot: "He Is Not a Terrorist"

ABC News - WASHINGTON - June 18 [2003]- While international authorities continue their search for a missing jetliner, fearful that it could be used in a terror attack, the family of the American believed to have been piloting the aircraft worries about his fate.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/931538/posts

8 posted on 03/16/2014 7:37:50 PM PDT by deks
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To: RummyChick

Oh and Jose Padilla was thought to possibly have been involved with Oklahoma
http://archive.glennbeck.com/news/06132002.shtml


9 posted on 03/16/2014 7:38:13 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Jose Padilla was thought (by some) to have been a dead ringer for John Doe #2 in the Oklahoma City bombing in 1993.

Village Voice Story

10 posted on 03/16/2014 7:38:25 PM PDT by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Interesting stuff from the FBI(?) via wikipedia:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/padilla_ben.html


11 posted on 03/16/2014 7:38:50 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: RummyChick

Padilla’s brother was a member of Free Republic
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/931538/posts?page=52


12 posted on 03/16/2014 7:44:34 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I thought it ended up in Saddam Hussein’s School For Terrorists outside Baghdad.


13 posted on 03/16/2014 7:47:16 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: padilla1956

Dunno if you still check in once in awhile, but your brother’s disappearnce is still on the list of

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/padilla_ben.html


14 posted on 03/16/2014 7:50:56 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: RummyChick
Ben Charles Padilla, front right, disappeared on board a Boeing 727. He was an FAA-certified flight engineer, aircraft mechanic and private pilot. (courtesy of Joseph B. Padilla Sr.)

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

Out of Africa, into thin air: A jet vanishes (October 24, 2004)

St. Petersburg Times - Did terrorists take the Boeing 727 in Angola? What happened to the Florida man aboard? So far, no answers.

Excerpt. . .

For several weeks before, the 50-year-old pilot and aircraft mechanic had been at Angola's main airport overseeing refurbishment of an aging Boeing 727. The plane had been parked so long that observers were surprised when, shortly before sunset on May 25, Padilla and another man climbed on board, revved up the engines and taxied out.

Witnesses were even more surprised to see the plane swerve back and forth, as though someone were wrestling for the controls. Then, with no flight plan or contact with the tower, the big jet roared down the runway and took off.

That was the last known sighting of the 727 and Ben Charles Padilla.

Did the plane crash into the jungle or plunge into the Atlantic Ocean off the Angolan coast?

Did it disappear as the result of an insurance scam or garden-variety theft, only to resurface in another Third World county with a new paint job and registration number?

Or did something more sinister happen, as Padilla's family and others fear? Could the 727 - which had been retrofitted to carry tons of extra fuel - been hijacked by terrorists for use in a 9/11-style attack?

Link to article from St. Petersburg Times (Florida)

15 posted on 03/16/2014 7:55:01 PM PDT by deks
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To: dynachrome

last post was January 17, 2004.


16 posted on 03/16/2014 7:59:34 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: dynachrome; padilla1956

From the thread linked above, comment #65 by padilla1956 . . .

excerpt. . .

“Yes,
I am Joseph B. Padilla, SR.
I live in Pensacola, Florida - U.S.A.
I am the Brother of Ben Charles Padilla Jr.
He is suspected to be the Pilot of the Missing Boeing 727 Plane that left the Airport in Angola on May 25 2003.
I am tring to reach news organizations to help me locate anyone that has seen or heard anything about this missing plane or my brother.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/931538/posts?page=65#65


17 posted on 03/16/2014 8:02:43 PM PDT by deks
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Comment #65 was on September 5, 2003.


18 posted on 03/16/2014 8:04:02 PM PDT by deks
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Skynet version 1.0


19 posted on 03/16/2014 8:14:58 PM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
In the late sixties, a fellow army helicopter pilot friend of ours was home on emergency leave and was in San Diego waiting for a couple hours to board his designated aircraft when his name was called over the loudspeaker.

When he went to the info desk, they told him a pane bound for his Nam destination was loading and had one seat left. He had the option of takinjg this flight or waiting around a couple hours.

He opted to go instead of wait.

Somewhere in the Pacific, figured near Guam, that charter plane (Tiger Airlines I believe)went down without any Mayday signal and was never heard from again. As far as I know, they never found any wreckage.

Another spooky thing was this pilot had been in a couple of near miss crashes and said he could hear JC calling him--in essence, a spooked feeling like someone walking on your grave.

vaudine

20 posted on 03/16/2014 8:19:06 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Ben Charles Padilla Ben Charles Padilla, an aircraft mechanic, flight engineer, and private pilot,[12] was aboard N844AA when it was stolen, and is believed by U.S. authorities to have been at the controls.[13] He has not been seen or heard from since.

Padilla's sister, Benita Padilla-Kirkland, told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel newspaper that her family suspects Padilla was flying the aircraft and fear that he subsequently crashed somewhere on the African continent or is being held against his will.[14]

Any guess why this wasn't a big news story?

21 posted on 03/16/2014 8:24:41 PM PDT by GOPJ (From a bellwether to an "oh-whateverrrr" in less than a single news cycle. -freeper Fightin Whitey)
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To: ilovesarah2012
In 2003, a 727 that once flew for American Airlines disappeared from Angola. (credit: Mike Gabriel) Image and video hosting by TinyPic

The 727 that Vanished

A case pursued by the FBI, the CIA, the U.S. Departments of State and Homeland Security, CENTCOM, and the sister of Ben Padilla.

By Tim Wright
AIR & SPACE MAGAZINE - SEPTEMBER 2010

Seven years after her brother disappeared from Quatro de Fevereiro International Airport in Angola, Benita Padilla-Kirkland is trying to persuade the FBI to re-open his case. She believes she has the “new information” agents told her they require. But she suspects that the agency already has more information than agents will admit to.

article from Air & Space Magazine - September 2010

22 posted on 03/16/2014 8:27:19 PM PDT by deks
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To: ilovesarah2012

Sounds like a CIA deal.


23 posted on 03/16/2014 8:32:20 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Civil service unions are the real government)
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To: vaudine

The charter line was “Flying Tiger Airlines”. I flew on one of their Super Constellations all the way from Travis AFB, CA, to Tachikawa AFB, Japan. That was one loooong flight...


24 posted on 03/16/2014 9:14:02 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: GOPJ

Have no idea!


25 posted on 03/16/2014 9:18:24 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: RummyChick

We are totally screwed now, aren’t we?


26 posted on 03/16/2014 9:20:23 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Very different plane and conditions


27 posted on 03/16/2014 9:45:10 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: TXnMA
I flew on one of their Super Constellations all the way from Travis AFB, CA, to Tachikawa AFB, Japan.

I bet it was. I flew on a C-5 from Travis to the Philippines. That was pretty long too.

28 posted on 03/16/2014 10:13:34 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am willing tro take over world wide aviation safety.

My first change will be to remove the ability to turn off any flight tracking devices such as transponders.

And the installation of a separate self powered tracking unit in an area only accessible to crew on the ground.

My ideas are revolutionary and support my 5 million dollar a month salary demands.


29 posted on 03/17/2014 1:33:42 AM PDT by NoLibZone (The bad news: Hillary Clinton will be the next President. The Good news: Our principles are intact.)
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To: TXnMA

You mean Yokota AB? It is near Tachikawa (Fussa).


30 posted on 03/17/2014 3:07:12 AM PDT by Bikkuri ( those would have been affected.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So Al Qaeda has two airliners now to fit with bombs.


31 posted on 03/17/2014 3:51:02 AM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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To: Bikkuri
I was stationed (detachment tenant) at Yokota for 3 years, and always loved the Tanabata Matsuri in Fussa-Machi.

Won a couple of USAF awards for photos of it, in fact...

But, in 1961, when I flew in on Flying Tiger Air, (30 hrs of 4 droning recips, box lunches, school bus seats, and Marine drill sgts for hostesses) -- all incoming flights landed at Tachikawa... (AKA "Tachi"...)

32 posted on 03/17/2014 8:34:52 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: TXnMA

Ah, ok ;^) Learned something new :)

I loved going to Yokota myself.. The only place I could buy civilized food and hygiene items when I first got here.. Can get some things now that are a bit better than what they were back then... but can’t find and beef skirts (for fajitas) nor good deodorant :/ (and toothpaste is really lacking too :^{


33 posted on 03/17/2014 9:23:38 AM PDT by Bikkuri ( those would have been affected.)
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