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Candidly speaking: Putin, Ukraine and the Jews
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 3-16-2014 | ISI LEIBLER

Posted on 03/17/2014 12:22:52 AM PDT by MarMema

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To: Grzegorz 246

Yes, http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateusz_Piskorski is vice president of Samoobrona http://www.samoobrona.org.pl/pages/02.Partia/00.Aktualnosci/index.php?document=/137.html

and his connections to SVR http://www.wprost.pl/ar/?O=111510


41 posted on 03/17/2014 5:55:29 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: MarMema
Ukrainian Jewish leaders wrote an open letter to Putin saying they don't want Russian forces there.

http://maidantranslations.com/2014/03/05/open-letter-of-ukrainian-jews-to-russian-federation-president-vladimir-putin/

42 posted on 03/17/2014 6:04:47 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: AdmSmith

One name: “Enrique Ravello, Spanish MP/far-right Catalan nat’list in favor of Catalan referendum blocked by Spanish parliament.”


43 posted on 03/17/2014 6:06:14 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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http://unitatcontraelfeixisme.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/manifiesto-we-dont-want-fascists-in-clot-barcelona-or-anywhere-shut-down-the-nazi-social-centre/

Now we have two names, both are extreme nationalists, and some would give them other labels. What about the new persons in charge of the Crimea administrations. Do we have a background?

44 posted on 03/17/2014 6:18:37 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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Sergey Aksyonov - and as I wrote above you will not find any good guys here. The whle situation is made for extremists to climb to the top.


45 posted on 03/17/2014 6:28:01 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Mimi3
Please explain people that Holocaust started in Ukraine - much more gruesome than later, one in Auschwitz...
46 posted on 03/17/2014 8:21:35 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: MarMema

Both sides employ antisemitism. Plenty of Russian nationalists in the Duma are antisemites, including those in Putin’s party. And while Putin has no problem with loyal Jews in Russia, he is the protector of Iran’s nuclear program. On the other side, there are people waving the banner of the 14th Waffen SS Galician and of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, which is mortifying.


47 posted on 03/17/2014 10:58:42 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Grzegorz 246

Hmm... I’ve been here for a while. I read threads but often don’t have much to add. In this case, I happen to have first hand experience, and I was eager to confirm the writer’s point of view. I know exactly what he is talking about. I have experienced a lot of antisemitism in Ukraine. Do you think that the author is a man of Putin, too? What is your knowledge about antisemitism in Ukraine? And do you think that if one is skeptical about the Ukrainian nationalist parties opne must automatically be Putin’s mouthpiece?


48 posted on 03/17/2014 12:03:21 PM PDT by Mimi3
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Ukraine didn’t have concentration camps, as far as I know. It was too far east. People got killed with guns. Jewish relatives on my mother’s side were killed (as Jews) in Uman and Kiev by the German army and local Ukrainian policemen.

I have nothing against Ukrainian people whatsoever. There are good and bad people among all people. My point is simply that the author of the article is correct. There are some very unpleasant characters mixed in the nationalist movement. They are much more openly fascistic and intolerant than people currently in the Russian government even if they are unsavory for other reasons. I am sure they have plenty of Russian fascists, as well. But they are not in the government. That’s the difference.


49 posted on 03/17/2014 12:14:34 PM PDT by Mimi3
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Yep, in the East the SOP was to shoot the local Jewish populations....it was in too forward an area to afford the manpower it took to build the kind of installations they built in Poland.


50 posted on 03/17/2014 12:19:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Grzegorz 246

How much does Soros pay you to be his mouthpiece?


51 posted on 03/17/2014 12:24:30 PM PDT by sport
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I don't give a damn about Tyahinybok, that jerk is irrelevant and will be forgotten in few years from now. It's all a matter of “the West” facing two mortal enemies in the following decades or “only” one, China. If the Kremlin gets Ukraine, we've got the Soviet union 2.0 (as the second enemy) even if Obama keep pushing “reset” 24/7.
52 posted on 03/17/2014 1:07:19 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: sport

A picture of the holy shirtless on a pony per each post !


53 posted on 03/17/2014 1:08:07 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

What’s the general mood in Poland?


54 posted on 03/17/2014 1:09:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: sport

LOL, The new Ukraine looks to be a runner up for the next Zimbabwe.


55 posted on 03/17/2014 8:13:54 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Mimi3

Even Poles who hate Russians with a passion have reservations about supporting the “Banderowcy” whose heroes slaughtered thousands of Poles during the war.


56 posted on 03/17/2014 11:07:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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