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Finally: Mississippi to Start Drug Testing Those Receiving Financial Aid Benefits
Townhall.com ^ | March 16 | Heather Ginsberg

Posted on 03/17/2014 3:49:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

It looks like Mississippi is taking the right steps to reducing fraud when it comes to government assistance. Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) will now require new applicants to submit a questionnaire that will evaluate the likelihood of substance abuse.

Residents who apply for this temporary assistance from the state will have to submit to drug testing if the state deems they are likely substance abusers from this questionnaire. Testing positive once would require a TANF recipient to undergo treatment for substance abuse. For testing positive a second time, the recipient would be kicked out of the program for 90 days. A third positive result would remove the recipient for up to a year.

Governor Bryant said, “The TANF program is a safety net for families in need, and adding this screening process will aid adults who are trapped in a dependency lifestyle so they can better provide for their children.” The state will be using federal funds earmarked for TANF to administer the questionnaires and testing. They estimate the cost of testing will be only $36,000 each year.

There are currently only 9 other states that have passed legislation requiring TANF applicants to be screened for drugs. And there are at least 24 more that are looking into this type of legislation too.

This seems like a great way for the state to spend a minimal amount in order to save the system a lot of money. What many people will think here is how Republicans hate poor people and how we don’t want to help them, but in all reality we want to help those who really need it and aren’t abusing the system. The governor of Mississippi and his legislature have figured out a way to do this, and I say “kudos” to them!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: drugabuse; welfare
Hopefully more states will follow
1 posted on 03/17/2014 3:49:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Not going to happen. Federal Government will block this before it ever gets started.


2 posted on 03/17/2014 3:51:44 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Kaslin

Michigan just instituted mandatory community service.


3 posted on 03/17/2014 3:54:09 AM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“Not going to happen. Federal Government will block this before it ever gets started.”

Agreed. This inconsiderate program would diminish recipients self esteem, therefore, it’s racist.


4 posted on 03/17/2014 3:57:54 AM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Kaslin

One note of caution: there are MANY over the counter drugs such as Advil, or food like poppy seeds that can cause false positives. I’d be careful about kicking people off without further investigation. MANY deserving people who did nothing wrong can be booted. All for cutting off anyone caught buying drugs or with drug convictions.


5 posted on 03/17/2014 3:58:51 AM PDT by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: Kaslin
Actually, you don't want more states to follow. The purpose of these drug-testing provisions isn't to get people cleaned up. It's to take the useless and perpetually unemployable people in the state and give them an incentive to move somewhere else where the conditions for getting public assistance are much more lax.

This, by the way, is how Minnesota ended up with a bunch of new welfare cases in the mid-1990s. It wasn't because so many more people were finding themselves in difficult circumstances. It was because so many surrounding states enacted welfare reforms that made it harder for misfits to qualify.

6 posted on 03/17/2014 4:01:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Artie

That’s what happened here in Florida. A Federal judge squashed it.


7 posted on 03/17/2014 4:10:27 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“Not going to happen. Federal Government will block this before it ever gets started.”

You’re probably right; this was never about helping these people, but just re-distributing wealth to the local bodegas and liquor stores. I don’t see this going far...


8 posted on 03/17/2014 4:11:52 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Kaslin

“Kicked out for 90 days —— kicked out for a year...”

Kinda takes the meaning out of the word “Temporary - as in Temporary Assistance to Needy Families” doesn’t it.

In actuality TANF is welfare plain and simple. Obama has so loosened the requirements of TANF, like looking for a job to include such things like having a Facebook Page you post to. It all needs to go.


9 posted on 03/17/2014 4:23:57 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Artie

I await a fair assessment of this plan by Eric Holder.


10 posted on 03/17/2014 4:32:52 AM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: gemoftheocean
One note of caution: there are MANY over the counter drugs such as Advil, or food like poppy seeds that can cause false positives.

If Advil were prone to creating false positives, I'd have been kicked out of the Army years ago.

11 posted on 03/17/2014 4:33:54 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Gaffer

Personally I believe that welfare should be temporary period, unless you are so handicapped that it is impossible for you to work


12 posted on 03/17/2014 4:48:17 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Government is too much in the charity business. It should be private. No matter how hard and pitiful the case, unless there is some reason beyond pure charity, the government is just stealing money forcefully and redistributing it.

It’s not just TANF; it’s Section 8, it’s SNAP, it’s horribly extended UIC, it’s SSDI, SSI, EITC, ObamaPhones and the whole nine yards. It is killing this nation.


13 posted on 03/17/2014 4:53:14 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: gemoftheocean

I am betting the samples will be ‘split’, allowing a further testing of the unused sample if there is a positive result on the first sample.


14 posted on 03/17/2014 4:55:32 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Kaslin

Florida passed a similar law in 2011 requiring testing of all welfare applicants but it was overturned by a federal judge in 2013.


15 posted on 03/17/2014 5:12:47 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Kaslin

Every Democrat I know supports this. Every Democrat politician I’ve ever heard on the subject opposes it. The rank and file mostly have no idea what their party is all about.


16 posted on 03/17/2014 5:36:27 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Kaslin

I predict a Federal Court will block this before the first March Madness play-in game tips off.


17 posted on 03/17/2014 6:40:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who do not feel the way you do. There are too many people who do not have the self pride that you and I share. Also, the definition of “handicapped” has been modified to include people who have psychological problems like depression. It is harder to disprove an unseen malady, as opposed to loss of limb.

The fact is states can do things to make it more difficult to get on and stay on welfare. If it is harder to stay on welfare here in NH, the person may choose to move to ME, VT or MA where it is easier. I think I have read that in ME , approximately 50% of people are on some kind of government assistance. Let me repeat that 50%. It is almost hard to believe. What is wrong with people?


18 posted on 03/17/2014 6:46:35 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963 (=)
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To: gemoftheocean

Red herring...I hear this argument quite frequently and typically amongst those arguing against drug testing of any sort. They can screen this out with today’s technology. But lets get real, how many people on government assistance let alone the general population are hiking up on poppy buns?


19 posted on 03/17/2014 6:50:57 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: MarMema
Michigan just instituted mandatory community service.

hmmmm.....and given that so many of them are of a particular ethnic minority....how long until the "S" word starts getting thrown around?


20 posted on 03/17/2014 6:59:04 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

This is great news.

Now, let’s require it for politicians.


21 posted on 03/17/2014 7:11:40 AM PDT by logitech (It is time.)
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To: Kaslin; Malichi; WXRGina; duffee; onyx; DrewsMum; Tupelo; mstar; jdirt; ...

ping


22 posted on 03/17/2014 7:21:07 AM PDT by WKB
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To: woodbutcher1963
.....a questionnaire that will evaluate the likelihood of substance abuse....

A questionnaire! By golly, that ought to do it. OTOH, this could drastically affect the American Street Drug Market, a vital economic component in urban neighborhoods. You see, indirectly the government is the largest (illegal) drug buyer in the country.

A Federal Program must be put in place immediately, immediately I say, to replace those vital dollars and restore economic stability. For the children.

23 posted on 03/17/2014 7:26:30 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( The Republican Party is in Hospice Care. Hold all contributions.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Thats racist. :-)


24 posted on 03/17/2014 8:40:26 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: MarMema

“That’s Slabery!”


25 posted on 03/17/2014 8:42:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kenny Bunk

And someone would complain if they were all pee tested - paying all that money to some pharma/testing company...


26 posted on 03/17/2014 8:44:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Alberta's Child

You’re partially correct. I want the welfare ENDED; but this will work in the interim. I know, that whole ‘old’ document and something about ‘takings’ being so out-dated.


27 posted on 03/17/2014 9:32:14 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: WKB; Black Agnes

The question remains, “what to do with our lifetime, generational welfare folks?”

Make those people re-apply?


28 posted on 03/17/2014 11:07:24 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: MrB
Why Mr. B, you are a bit old-fashioned.

Here in Obamerica, we have drones that can fly over your septic tank and with special sensors, made by a company owned by one of Michelle's Black Studies classmates, make sure that your family is making a healthy recreational drug choice.

29 posted on 03/17/2014 12:55:46 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( The Republican Party is very sick . Hold all contributions until we see who picks up the patient..)
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