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The states people are fleeing in 2014
Forbes via MSN ^ | February 13, 2014 | Susan Adams

Posted on 03/17/2014 11:30:33 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

More people are moving out of New Jersey than are moving in. The same is true for Illinois and New York. Those three states top the "outbound" list compiled by United Van Lines, the big St. Louis-based moving company that has put together an annual survey of where Americans are moving for the last 37 years.

The company analyzed a total of 125,000 moves across the 48 continental states and the District of Columbia in 2013 and came up with a picture of migration patterns across the U.S.

According to Professor Michael Stoll, chair of the Department of Public Policy at the University of California Los Angeles and a consultant to United Van Lines who studies American migration, the moves reflect long-term shifts in the U.S. economy and the hit to employment in many states resulting from the slow recovery.

Of the top nine states where more people moved out than moved in, four are in the Northeast: In addition to New Jersey and New York, Connecticut (No. 5) and Massachusetts (No. 8) make the list. The list also reflects Americans’ desire to leave the frigid states in the north for warmer climes. "Over the last 20-30 years there has been a general shift of the population from the Midwest and Northeast to the South and West, which we think of as a move from the frost belt to the sun belt," Stoll says.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: Illinois; US: Massachusetts; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: carpetbaggers; climatechangehoax; demstates; economy; globalwarminghoax; illinois; liberalflight; migration; newjersey; newyork; states; trends; yankeeflight
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To: Mich Patriot

Come on down to the Missouri Ozarks.
Low taxes, low cost of living. Year round fishing.
Deer & turkey if you like to hunt.
Shoot your gun.
...did I mention low taxes ?


21 posted on 03/17/2014 11:48:35 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Because they keep taking more and more money from those who earn it honestly and give it to those who vote democrat.


22 posted on 03/17/2014 11:48:38 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Digger

Last census stated that ny lost 4 seats or ev’s (not sure which) and we (FL) gained 4.

I like living in SFL. Little warm and tropical in the summer but as long as you have ac you’re good to go. Just stay indoors from July to Sept. The rest of the yr makes up for it. Plus shorts, flip-flops and tank-tops year round is comfy.


23 posted on 03/17/2014 11:51:02 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITES)
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To: impactplayer
Liberals mess up a state then move to one the conservatives have kept right - then try to change it to the way “we did it back home.”

Truth.

Liberal Socialism is like a plague, constantly seeking healthy populations to infect and destroy.

24 posted on 03/17/2014 11:52:04 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: ConorMacNessa
I don't think the study takes into account the illegal aliens flooding our entire Nation.

Yep, but moreover it doesn't factor for all the welfare bums moving into states.

A producer-taxpayer moving out is NOT offset by a looter (or two) moving in.

25 posted on 03/17/2014 11:58:42 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Red Badger

If I ever moved down south, the last thing I would say is “That’s how we did it up north” unless it was to point out a mistake they were going to make.


26 posted on 03/17/2014 11:58:53 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

And here they come to the West. And there goes the peace, quiet and freedom.


27 posted on 03/17/2014 12:00:28 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Can you give me a specific town or county to investigate? Not sure Missouri fits my climate needs, but maybe it depends on north or south part.


28 posted on 03/17/2014 12:00:30 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Mich Patriot
My response is maybe a bit off topic, but I’m also interested in where people are GOING TO

United Van Lines can help with that.

The top inbound states of 2013 were:
  1. Oregon
  2. South Carolina
  3. North Carolina
  4. District of Columbia
  5. South Dakota
  6. Nevada
  7. Texas
  8. Colorado

The top outbound states for 2013 were:

  1. New Jersey
  2. Illinois
  3. New York
  4. West Virginia
  5. Connecticut
  6. Utah
  7. Kentucky
  8. Massachusetts
  9. New Mexico

I note the outbound list matches Forbes's ... yep, from the article:

According to Professor Michael Stoll, chair of the Department of Public Policy at the University of California Los Angeles and a consultant to United Van Lines who studies American migration, the moves reflect long-term shifts in the U.S. economy and the hit to employment in many states resulting from the slow recovery.

29 posted on 03/17/2014 12:03:20 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
NYC, Chicago will be a larger version of Detroit
30 posted on 03/17/2014 12:04:04 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: bicyclerepair
I like living in SFL. Little warm and tropical in the summer but as long as you have ac you’re good to go. Just stay indoors from July to Sept. The rest of the yr makes up for it. Plus shorts, flip-flops and tank-tops year round is comfy.

I like living in SWPA. It is a little cold and miserable in the winter, but as long as you have heat, your are good to go. Just stay indoors from December to February. The rest of the yr makes up for it. Plus shorts, flip-flops and tank-tops during the summer and a light jacket otherwise is comfy.

31 posted on 03/17/2014 12:04:17 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: cynwoody

I also note that DC is #4 on the inbound list. That’s clearly something we need to fix.


32 posted on 03/17/2014 12:04:20 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

top inbound list:

District of Columbia

Lord help us....


33 posted on 03/17/2014 12:04:47 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

And 25% of ‘em are coming here. My lord people, don’t you know it gets to be 120 degrees in the summer. Stay out. (unless you are conservatives ofcourse-)


34 posted on 03/17/2014 12:04:48 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: boomop1

The way it worked was this... The New Yorkers moved west into NJ starting in the 1950s and really ramping up through the 1980s, when many of the the farms of rural Hunterdon county were transformed into raising McMansion.

Taxes went up and up and up and the people voting for these tax increases turned things bluer and bluer and bluer... (though, I will say that Hunterdon County is still red... give it 10 more years).

The outrageous property taxes drove the original familys across the Delaware river into PA, and the Democrats, having ruined the property tax situation in NJ began to follow into PA... most of the Lehigh Valley is House farms now and the same deal is going on that happened 30 years ago in NJ... the retirees from NJ are going south... some probably via PA.

I say if you are down there... invest in shops that sell “Old Man Hats”.... know what I mean? Those old geezers you see driving down the road 20MPH under the limit... they all wear Old Man Hats.


35 posted on 03/17/2014 12:05:19 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: cynwoody

amen brother

I’m sure those 15,000 attorneys and accountants the IRS hired to administer Obamacare added to the list.


36 posted on 03/17/2014 12:05:50 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: ponygirl
A few states on the moving-out list that mystify Stoll: West Virginia at No. 4 (60 percent more moved out) Utah at No. 6, (58 percent), and Kentucky at No. 7 (56 percent).
That's not a mystery.

Could WV and Kentucky problems be Hussein's ‘War on Coal’ ????

37 posted on 03/17/2014 12:08:02 PM PDT by TRY ONE (I never got the memo on changing 'Global Warming' to 'Climate Change'!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Saved this a while back, a neat visualization tool to see where people are coming from and going to in any county you want to pick, at least up to 2010:

Cool Map

We picked moving to an uber-liberal state, Hawaii, because we wanted to retire here eventually, and I have had a great time infuriating liberals here ever since. Drives them nuts to find out not everyone is in lockstep with liberal dogma.

Helps living on a small town type island. Honolulu sucked.

38 posted on 03/17/2014 12:08:26 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Red Badger

I’m sitting here laughing my A$$ off. The first time I saw that bumper sticker, was in 2003 down in Florida. I was laughing all the way up US1.


39 posted on 03/17/2014 12:08:39 PM PDT by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: cynwoody

What on earth is the draw to Oregon? I mean the unemployed barristas that move to Portland CAN’T AFFORD United Van Lines... and don’t have furniture to move anyways.


40 posted on 03/17/2014 12:08:40 PM PDT by Rodamala
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