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Mother agrees to $725,000 settlement in Saginaw police shooting
MLive ^ | 3-17-14 | Andy Hoag

Posted on 03/17/2014 5:21:05 PM PDT by smokingfrog

SAGINAW, MI — The mother of Milton Hall, a homeless Saginaw man shot and killed by Saginaw police officers in 2012, has settled her federal wrongful death lawsuit against the city and nine police officers, her attorneys say.

Jewel Hall on Friday, March 14, settled her case in U.S. District Court in Bay City, according to a press release sent from Hall's Detroit attorneys.

Hall settled the case for $725,000, according to her Saginaw attorney, Debra Freid.

Hall's "primary motivation was to make sure that this never happens to another family," Freid told The Saginaw News.

The dollar amount is a "symbol of (Milton Hall's) value," Freid said.

"The amount was never the central issue for Jewel," Freid said. "The fact that it's a very substantial amount is important to her because (it means) the city of Saginaw recognizes that Milton Hall, her son, was a person of value notwithstanding his illness."

(Excerpt) Read more at mlive.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: banglist; confrontationwatch; donutwatch; feos; lawsuit; miltonhall; punitivedamages

1 posted on 03/17/2014 5:21:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Her maiden name in French was, "killer".

I'm serious.

2 posted on 03/17/2014 5:25:27 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
47 rounds does seem rather excessive.

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3 posted on 03/17/2014 5:25:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: smokingfrog

Does a single dime come out of any officer’s or city official’s own personal pocket?

Didn’t think so.


4 posted on 03/17/2014 5:25:58 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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video of shooting

http://youtu.be/4cAAM4TXPdw


5 posted on 03/17/2014 5:27:02 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: null and void

That is the problem...take it out of their personal hide, and this sh*t ends quickly.


6 posted on 03/17/2014 5:27:25 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: null and void

it should come out of their personal pensions and they, like other professionals, should be made to carry liability insurance of at least a million per wrongful death.


7 posted on 03/17/2014 5:33:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: who knows what evil?

exactly. they need to have personal repercussions. they never get fired and even if that, hardly ever go to jail.


8 posted on 03/17/2014 5:34:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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9 posted on 03/17/2014 5:35:47 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: who knows what evil?

Total immunity for stupidity while employed by any government body is an insane policy that should have ended years ago.

Until the perpetrator and enabling boss suffer real consequences this type of outrage will continue.

No one should be immune from responsibility for their own acts.


10 posted on 03/17/2014 5:38:09 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: smokingfrog

I don't think they had enough cops pointing guns at the guy holding the knife....

Looks like they could of used some back up.

11 posted on 03/17/2014 5:39:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: smokingfrog

He was a threat but he wasn’t a 47 round threat. One good center mass shot would have been plenty and he might have lived.


12 posted on 03/17/2014 5:39:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: smokingfrog

Since the $ amount wasn’t really a factor, and since it was really all about seeing others like Milton Hall don’t receive the same treatment he did, are Jewel Hall and Attorney Freid going to donate the full $725K to local homeless shelters and psych clinics?


13 posted on 03/17/2014 5:42:32 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: cripplecreek
He was a threat but he wasn’t a 47 round threat. One good center mass shot would have been plenty and he might have lived.

Uh, how about a round aimed at the knee? Or are cute little officerettes not trained for that?

14 posted on 03/17/2014 5:45:53 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Right Brother
Uh, how about a round aimed at the knee? Or are cute little officerettes not trained for that?

I don't think anybody is trained for that. I'd be a lot happier if they trained them that just having a gun in hand doesn't mean every cop on the scene needs to fire.
15 posted on 03/17/2014 5:51:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Do they not have stun guns? Seems like that would have been the thing to use in a situation like that.

Of course he did threaten to ‘take someone out’ so I guess that means they can just fire at will.


16 posted on 03/17/2014 6:06:08 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

This is perfect justification for the police to have 50 caliber rifles for situations like this. One 50 caliber round would have parked the perp and saved 46 rounds and the possibility of innocent passerby’s getting hit with stray shots or ricochets. (if necessary /s/)


17 posted on 03/17/2014 6:16:59 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (WWP and Paralyed Veterans Assoc. doing the work the U.S. Veterans Administration won't do!)
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To: smokingfrog
CONFRONTATION!!!

"One of the things the public has to understand, an individual wielding a knife at you at about 20 feet can be on top of you in a split second"

CONFRONTATION!!!

Well, if you're a fat donut-eating lump of lard who's in a CONFRONTATION stance, I suppose that might be true. Me, not so much. The knife-wielding individual would not catch me in this situation.

CONFRONTATION!!!

"One of the things the public has to understand, an individual wielding a knife at you at about 20 feet can be on top of you in a split second"

Why are guys with guns and wearing Magic Costumes so FILLED WITH FEAR? What's up with that?

Cripes, they even had a Furry Police Officer-Judge named Barky with them.

18 posted on 03/17/2014 6:25:13 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: RetiredTexasVet

I say Ma Deuces - optimally, a quad-mount belt-fed.


19 posted on 03/17/2014 6:26:01 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: dragnet2; smokingfrog

Whole lotta beef in that picture...


20 posted on 03/17/2014 6:26:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Beef, I didn’t see any beef; whole lot of PORK and a smattering of chicken-shit perhaps, but certainly no beef.


21 posted on 03/17/2014 6:39:16 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: null and void

It does quite properly come from the taxpayer though.

And, if the taxpayers remain the idiots they were to vote in an administration that had low enough standards that this was possible then they need to lose exponentially more if there is another incident.

Sometimes, you have to understand (even if you don’t like it) the consequences run back up and body slam the top of the authority structure.

In America, that top is the voter.
We get what we deserve.


22 posted on 03/17/2014 6:53:45 PM PDT by MrEdd (vHeck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

M203’s would come in handy too!


23 posted on 03/17/2014 7:13:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: cripplecreek
He had a knife.


24 posted on 03/17/2014 7:18:11 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: gaijin

Drunk Tank Pink. Great book.


25 posted on 03/17/2014 9:12:31 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: MrEdd

Thank you.

I have written that a few times here on FR when people post about these law suits being paid for by the tax payers. I do agree the individual cops need to have a financial burden placed on themselves to ensure they get punished for their actions. Maybe have the government write the check and then take a percentage out of their paychecks for the rest of their lives.


26 posted on 03/17/2014 9:42:59 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: smokingfrog

Even a belt fed, full auto, ballistic knife shouldn’t have justified 40+ rounds. I don’t think we can count on a majority of LEOs to be our friends in a possible Country wide insurrection


27 posted on 03/18/2014 8:38:14 AM PDT by mcshot (Their fraud is malignant, deep, unending and perilous.)
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