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Thanks, Anti-Vaxxers. You Just Brought Back Measles in NYC.
The Daily Beast ^ | March 13, 2014 | Russell Saunders

Posted on 03/17/2014 7:41:27 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Of all the things to be nostalgic for, infectious diseases probably don’t make it onto many lists.

However, if you happen to pine for the good old days when measles was an active public health threat, I have good news for you. The anti-vaccine crowd is bringing it back.

There is currently an outbreak of measles in New York City. Considered eliminated in the United States in 2000, last year saw a record number of outbreaks around the country. It’s only three months into 2014, and not only is the nation’s largest city seeing cases in several boroughs, but other major metropolitan areas are warning of new cases as well.

This is not some inconvenience to be laughed off. Measles is a highly-contagious illness caused by a virus. It usually presents with a combination of rash, fevers, cough and runny nose, as well as characteristic spots in the mouth. Most patients recover after an unpleasant but relatively uneventful period of sickness. Unfortunately, about one patient in every 1,000 develops inflammation of the brain, and one to three cases per 1000 in the United States result in death.

Reports from New York note that several people have been hospitalized, and infected patients include infants too young to be vaccinated themselves. Because the American public hasn’t needed to worry much about this once-contained threat in quite some time, most people probably don’t know that measles can kill, or leave children permanently disabled.

We vaccinate people for a reason.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; US: New York
KEYWORDS: adhd; aliens; amnesty; antivaxxers; autism; disease; epidemics; fnyc; illegalimmigrants; measles; mmr; obamavisas; vaccines
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1 posted on 03/17/2014 7:41:27 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

PING!


2 posted on 03/17/2014 7:42:03 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

NYC so it must be the hippy variant or the illegals


3 posted on 03/17/2014 7:43:05 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So they know for sure it was caused by people refusing vaccines and not uncontrolled immigration?


4 posted on 03/17/2014 7:43:38 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Are they sure it is antivaxxers and not illegal aliens?


5 posted on 03/17/2014 7:44:15 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: GeronL
It's the deviant hippies who have sucked down the paranoid delusion that vaccination causes autism.
6 posted on 03/17/2014 7:45:21 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Local mechanic I know just came down with the chicken pox. He is around 50 years old. Illegals?


7 posted on 03/17/2014 7:45:51 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
All those illegal aliens have nothing to do with it? P
8 posted on 03/17/2014 7:46:53 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

OK, so only the unvaccinated get the disease. What’s the issue?


9 posted on 03/17/2014 7:47:52 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

That would be my guess.


10 posted on 03/17/2014 7:48:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Too many ostensible conservatives buy in to it as well.


11 posted on 03/17/2014 7:48:29 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You can’t fix stupid. But a vaccine against it would be welcome.


12 posted on 03/17/2014 7:48:42 PM PDT by Autonomous User
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thank folks like Jenni McCarthy and Alex Jones. They spout nonsense and hysteria and try to make out that it is factual.

For those of us who remember just how dangerous measles can be, I say a pox on their houses


13 posted on 03/17/2014 7:50:01 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: freebilly

It’s possible vaccinated can get it. Nothing is perfect.


14 posted on 03/17/2014 7:50:34 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Was Jim Carrey available for comment?


15 posted on 03/17/2014 7:50:45 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Darksheare
Are they sure it is antivaxxers and not illegal aliens?

I've read that it is illegal aliens that are bringing these illnesses in (and bedbugs, too).

16 posted on 03/17/2014 7:53:06 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Eh, I had them thanks to my brother, at age 5.

When my kids were young, parents had parties to infect their kids properly.


17 posted on 03/17/2014 7:53:12 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

When my daughter was a baby, she couldn’t have the measles vaccine b/c she is allergic to eggs.

I asked the specialist if the vaccine were necessary or not.

He said virulent strains of measles were coming in from South East Asia and that he thought it was extremely important to get the measles vaccination.


18 posted on 03/17/2014 7:53:22 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: freebilly

Because infants that are too young to vaccinated get it. Even if you get your children vaccinated on schedule, your child can still get it if they come in contact before they are old enough to be vaccinated.


19 posted on 03/17/2014 7:54:49 PM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
jenny mccarthy photo: Jenny McCarthy 59104_jenny_mccarthy-cleavage_why_s.jpg

Not Guilty. And not just by insanity.

20 posted on 03/17/2014 7:55:18 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Parley Baer

I had a colleague (we’re teachers) who contracted chicken pox at age 40 from a student and almost died. He was in the hospital for six weeks and then off for another six week recovering.

He told me later that he wanted to die during that time because he was so sick and miserable.

We worked (at that time) in a school with a lot of immigrant students from Central America.


21 posted on 03/17/2014 7:55:45 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

No it’s not. I don’t vaccinate my child and autism was not the reason behind it, other health issues were. I will never understand the conservatives that believe everything they are told about vaccinations from big government, big insurance, and pharma backed doctors.

Measles are not 100%, and even with herd immunity there are still break outs at nearly 100% immunity (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16322148)

We are in Orange County, California, where there is also currently a “measles outbreak” I don’t remember 10-14 cases...guess what, every one of them has been in contact with someone who has flown in from the Philippines.


22 posted on 03/17/2014 7:59:16 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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To: hinckley buzzard

Research confirms antidepressant-autism link
‘Virtually every study shows increased rates of developmental delay in children’

http://www.wnd.com/2014/03/research-confirms-antidepressant-autism-link/


23 posted on 03/17/2014 7:59:28 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Parley Baer

I’ve had the chicken pox four times. The first time was miserable. Each time it gets milder.

Had the measles as an adult too. The worst headache I’ve ever ever had. The mumps were worse.

Never got sick as a kid. My mother must have quarantined me.


24 posted on 03/17/2014 7:59:47 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Nifster

Their houses must have already had chicken pox, because they all have shingles! /rimshot


25 posted on 03/17/2014 7:59:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: ifinnegan

Yes, wouldn’t surprise me if the immune response wears off after a while. Guess I’ll find out if some kid coughs on me.


26 posted on 03/17/2014 8:00:30 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Snickering Hound

Yeah, she’s hot, but I won’t hit it until she renounces her anti-vaccine dogma. Even I have standards, you know . . .


27 posted on 03/17/2014 8:01:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I took care of my nephew for a week when he had chicken pox as a toddler because I had more patience than his idiot father.

I just kept him occupied during the day and at night I had a tub full of warm water and Aveno to put him in for a bit when he started fussing in the middle of the night.


28 posted on 03/17/2014 8:02:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: porter_knorr

Yes, but with good herd immunity, kid no. 2 is less likely to get it from kid no. 1, since those who have it will be sparsely scattered about the community.


29 posted on 03/17/2014 8:03:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Bon of Babble

I’ve heard that CP are horrible as an adult. Had them as a kid....and two bouts of shingles as an adult during my 20’s and 30’s due to stress. Wouldn’t wish that on anyone.


30 posted on 03/17/2014 8:04:50 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why do we keep seeing this idiotic fallacy crop up in the news? It’s not anti-vaccine crusaders responsible for outbreaks of diseases that WERE effectively eradicated from this nation, it’s third world immigrants.

But the cognitive dissonance on the left and in the media is so intense that they can’t possibly blame a public health catastrophe on the people that are actually carrying, spreading, and subject to the diseases in question.

Poor, uneducated, unvaccinated (to coin a word) illegal immigrants are both a vector and a reservoir of communicable diseases formerly eradicated in the United States - blaming unrelated parties, no matter how moonbattish you may believe their philosophies, does absolutely nothing to address the public health consequences involved, does nothing to educate the public about the issues. The only purpose of such misinformation is to vilify what the media deem ideological miscreants.

We COULD advocate rational border protections (especially at major ports of entry), disease screenings of prospective immigrants, require vaccination records or medical evaluation for foreign travelers, and educate the public about the disease risks posed by international immigration.

Any and all of those policies would have more beneficial influences on public health than letting depraved leftists blame innocent parties for the resurgence of vanished diseases.


31 posted on 03/17/2014 8:05:05 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

He came back with permanent, very noticeable scars on his face and around his torso.

He had no idea he hadn’t had chicken pox as a child, like most of us.

Had a couple of elderly relatives who had shingles...both said it was sheer hell...


32 posted on 03/17/2014 8:07:25 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Thymerisol has a well proven statistical link to autism.

It also has links to many other maladies.


33 posted on 03/17/2014 8:08:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: OneWingedShark

More than likely.


34 posted on 03/17/2014 8:09:15 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Yes, but with good herd immunity, kid no. 2 is less likely to get it from kid no. 1, since those who have it will be sparsely scattered about the community.”

What’s fascinating about news stories like these, is they conveniently ignore the fact that it’s immigrants that are more likely to compromise “herd immunity” that extremely rare examples of people that are actively against vaccination.

Of the millions of illegal immigrants here in this nation, how many do you think had the full battery of childhood vaccinations? Don’t you think that’s a bigger threat to herd immunity than the vanishingly rare anti-vaccine type?


35 posted on 03/17/2014 8:09:55 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

ba da bing.... nicely played


36 posted on 03/17/2014 8:11:41 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: hinckley buzzard

I am sure the illegals who never got shots are not a problem


37 posted on 03/17/2014 8:16:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

whoever believes this is a moron. how are any of the vacinated going to get sick? they-re vaccinated! they are protected, they have the glorious shot that always works and has no adverse side effects, ever.

this is like blaming people who don’t carry guns for you getting robbed.


38 posted on 03/17/2014 8:18:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: freebilly

Because some of the in mmunized can’t. Too young, or immunocompromised.
When the total number of unimmunized drops below a critical number you lose the herd immunity effect, and you can get person to person spread and epidemics.


39 posted on 03/17/2014 8:19:21 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: porter_knorr

Surely oil soaked rags aren’t a fire hazard as long as we never put a flame to them.

People believe vaccines work because there’s literally over a century of practical experience proving they work. We didn’t eliminate these diseases by shear happenstance.

If folks don’t vaccinate their kids then when they get sick and die it’s their fault their kid died. The occasional toddler who was too young to get vaccinated that dies because of their foolishness is too high a price to pay though for it.


40 posted on 03/17/2014 8:20:34 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: ifinnegan

in fact you are more at risk to get the flu if you take the flu vax. just came out this year, meta study of years of data.

so kind of thwarts the idea that not getting vaxs is stupid.

also they have gotten rid of many vax’s that were created without using aborted cell lines. i dont make a point to benefit from those murdered by abortion at their expense.


41 posted on 03/17/2014 8:21:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: porter_knorr

herd immunity is a myth. people are more at risk to get the flu if they get the flu vax.


42 posted on 03/17/2014 8:23:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: freebilly

It’s more than that. It’s called herd immunity.


43 posted on 03/17/2014 8:23:17 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

WTF! Why would a pregnant woman take any drug unless it is absolutely necessary?


44 posted on 03/17/2014 8:23:42 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

i heard she’s devastated you won’t masturbate to her pictures.


45 posted on 03/17/2014 8:23:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Flu vaccine is very different than measles or chicken pox or smallpox or polio etc...

Try not to be ignorant. It’s not a conservative virtue.

I say this agreeing that the yearly flu vaccines may not help. I never take them and not get the flu


46 posted on 03/17/2014 8:25:19 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: jameslalor

Often, quite often here in the west, it is reservations.


47 posted on 03/17/2014 8:25:47 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

illegals = measels
sanctuary city
commie libtard mayor
what next, the plague ???


48 posted on 03/17/2014 8:26:56 PM PDT by zzwhale
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; Bon of Babble
I’ve heard that CP are horrible as an adult. Had them as a kid....and two bouts of shingles as an adult during my 20’s and 30’s due to stress. Wouldn’t wish that on anyone.

It's really hard to get a prescription for the shingles shot at that age. I wouldn't be surprised if Obamacare would forbid it even if you were to use your own money.

49 posted on 03/17/2014 8:27:07 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: jameslalor

While we should stop immigrants who aren’t innoculated, we can’t absolve people who avoid vaccinations. Until a disease is gone worldwide, it’s still a threat.


50 posted on 03/17/2014 8:27:26 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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