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Former Top Putin Advisor Sounds The Alarm: Putin Has Already Declared War On Kiev
Forbes ^ | March 17, 2014 | By Paul Roderick Gregory Contributor

Posted on 03/17/2014 8:39:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Andrei Illarionov, formerly Vladimir Putin’s top economic advisor (and personal envoy to the G8) , has warned in an interview with Ukrainian television that Putin has already declared war on Kiev. Putin’s war is being conducted by Russian Spetsnaz (special operations) forces and KGB (now called FSB) agents and is aimed at toppling the pro-Western government in Kiev. The Spetsnaz forces’ orders include the sowing of civil unrest throughout Ukraine via strikes, demonstrations, staged incidents, and street battles. Putin’s subversive forces will also gin up neo-Nazi incidents with Nazi regalia and Swastikas on full display. Their orders include as well the deliberate killing of Russian soldiers and of ethnic Russian civilians to prove the hatred and extremism of radical Ukrainian nationalists. These orders come from Putin himself. Their goal is to create an image of intolerable chaos and loss of civil authority to justify a Russian takeover of all Ukraine. Putin’s goal is the destruction of pro-Western authority in Ukraine, the total humiliation of the West, and a makeover of the geopolitical balance.

Illiaronov’s urgent advice to Ukraine: Place all your effort into preserving civil order and avoid falling for the Spetsnaz provocations. (This will be difficult as Spetsnaz-organized gangs are already storming public buildings in East Ukraine). Ukrainian authorities must immediately close all borders with Russia to slow the infiltration of Spetsnaz and FSB destabilization units. Ukrainian TV and radio must immediately broadcast all their news in Russian or in English because many Ukrainian citizens and Russians do not understand Ukrainian.

Illarianov pleads that the whole world understand what Putin is up to. A Putin success in taking over Ukraine would change Europe and the balance of power and lead to further “restorations” of the former Soviet Union...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; obama; ptin; putinistas; putinsbuttboys; russia; surrendermonkeys; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 03/17/2014 8:39:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

With the current events; I wonder if Germany now sees the foolishness in their decision to shut down their nuclear power plants ?
They planned on cheap energy including Russian supplies; and their green nonsense.


2 posted on 03/17/2014 8:44:21 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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Yes he has - and with the pathetic simulacrum now occupying the WH, he will win that war before Easter.

Of course, the MSM is devoting all of its coverage to Flight 370 - how convenient! We are well on our way to being undone by Obama - I only hope that the damage can be undone!



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

3 posted on 03/17/2014 8:45:41 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1<center> <table back969 - St. Mlichael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, it’s a good thing we have such a strong president of our own in these challenging times. If push comes to shove, he’s ready to do whatever is necessary to appologize for American imperialism.


4 posted on 03/17/2014 8:52:57 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Jim Robinson

You have to understand three things about Putin and the Former USSR:

1. The Collapse of the USSR was staged, or at least planned
2. The Russians always had a contingency plan for what is happening now in Ukraine, if they lost control of key posts in the government.
3. Russia had always planned on putting back together the USSR at a later date of their choosing. The events in Ukraine this time were such that violent force is required to bring it back into the fold of the USSR, similar to the Hungarian revolt of 1956.

Reasons that this is true:
1. All the communist parties are backing Russia on this.
2. International ANSWER and other antiwar groups are backing Russia
3. Obama’s feckless, inept, and irresponsible response to this crisis borders on treason.
4. Russia’s management of their allies, telling them to keep their distance until the time is right (Eg China and Belarus).


5 posted on 03/17/2014 8:54:20 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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” - - - we are already in a cold war, whether we want to recognize it or not. - - - “

Lucky for us we have a CIC who is a Nobel Peace Prize winner who looks like an ass when he leads from behind.

FORWARD !


6 posted on 03/17/2014 8:55:03 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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“Lucky for us we have a CIC who is a Nobel Peace Prize winner who looks like an ass when he leads from behind.”

Wolf, that’s only true for those who fail to be impressed by mom jeans.


7 posted on 03/17/2014 8:57:02 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks. Saw evidence of this effort on Twitter, but it was unclear how organized.

This clarifies it.


8 posted on 03/17/2014 8:57:47 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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Considering it was the neo-Nazis that took down the former government along with some IMF thugs supported by Obama, I question the purpose of this article by Forbes. The IMF wanted the Ukrainian banks, and they started this mess, not Putin. And they picked the right time, right when Putin’s hands were tied up with the Olympics and he couldn’t make a move to stop them.


9 posted on 03/17/2014 9:01:10 PM PDT by Ms. Blunt
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"The Spetsnaz forces’ orders include the sowing of civil unrest throughout Ukraine via strikes, demonstrations, staged incidents, and street battles."

Well, that sounds exactly like the tactics employed last month by our client revolutionaries who toppled the previous Kiev regime. Of course, it's not wrong when we do it.

10 posted on 03/17/2014 9:02:08 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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" Ukrainian TV and radio must immediately broadcast all their news in Russian or in English because many Ukrainian citizens and Russians do not understand Ukrainian. "

HUH?!

Ukrainians in Ukraine do not understand Ukrainian?? What kind of BS is this?

Ukrainians in Ukraine have to know russian, but russians in Ukraine do not have to know Ukrainian?

So why was there such an uproar about Ukrainians wanting their laws written in Ukrainian? obviously it was just an excuse for russians to destroy Ukraine.

11 posted on 03/17/2014 9:02:56 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: KC_Lion; GeronL; nuconvert; txhurl

Ping.


12 posted on 03/17/2014 9:03:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Jim Robinson

Fast and Furious to a purpose.


13 posted on 03/17/2014 9:07:09 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (My citizenship is not here.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I hear that a lot of folks are preparing for Jesus to come over all this mess that Obbabble Lips is putting the U.S. in by his foolish talking. Sounds like a good idea to me.


14 posted on 03/17/2014 9:07:50 PM PDT by TEARUNNER14 (When you get older you pray your human plumbing will function well.)
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To: Always A Marine

Egypt. Libya. Syria.

“War is a racket.”


15 posted on 03/17/2014 9:09:34 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (My citizenship is not here.)
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To: Ms. Blunt
Additionally it has overtones of Zimbabwe emerging - from what I have read only ethnic Ukrainians can own land. They plan to take all the land and give some of it back to only ethnic ( must have born there ) Ukrainians. With government stipulations. 'It's not really your land, it belongs to Ukraine but you can use and keep it in your family until you violate one of our rules'.

But even that is not enough if you are Jewish or dark skinned - that rules you out for that ethnic label.

I see Putin says the Svoboda guy fought with the chechens and has effectively issued a warrant for his and his buddies arrest. You can't beat Putin at chess or unique ways to solve a problem.

16 posted on 03/17/2014 9:10:31 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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I don’t doubt Moscow has instigated a covert war in Ukraine. It carries fewer costs for the Kremlin than an outright invasion. And Vladimir Putin as a judo champion, understands the best way to defeat an opponent is to turn his strength against himself.

That is what makes him such a dangerous adversary: he has successfully married 19th Century Great Power goals with 21st Century stealth warfare. And we’re not even playing in his league. He is always ahead of the West which is belatedly playing catch-up in a futile bid to contain him.


17 posted on 03/17/2014 9:12:40 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Jim Robinson

The Real Red Dawn.


18 posted on 03/17/2014 9:14:51 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: MarMema

WHere did you read this? Links?


19 posted on 03/17/2014 9:16:23 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

In places like Donetsk, Dnepropetrovsk and Lugansk, there is hardly a word of Ukrainian spoken. Even ethnic Ukrainians there are by and large Russophones. Its an entirely different world from the rest of Ukraine.


20 posted on 03/17/2014 9:17:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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