Skip to comments.Doctor: No Such Thing as ADHD
Posted on 03/18/2014 10:29:27 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
The child would daydream in class, his elementary-school teachers said. He often just didnt pay attention the way they would have liked. This was before the age of prevalent ADHD diagnoses and Ritalin, so no remedy was at hand, either. If one had been, though, who knows what he might have been?
Perhaps not co-valedictorian of his school which he was.
I was that child. And were I attending school today and especially if my behavior had been worse, its likely Id have received that fashionable diagnosis. And why not? It seems everyone now could have ADHD.
This point is made by Dr. Richard Saul, who has been practicing behavioral neurology for 50 years and is the author of the new book ADHD Does Not Exist. In a March 14 Time piece he writes:
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By becoming ubiquitous, it lost all meaning.
In the olden days they were simply called smart-mouthed rotten brats and a few spankings set them straight.
I know it worked on me, the first time I mouthed-off at school and my Dad hat to come home from work and ‘set me straight’
and I LOVE YOU AND MISS YOU DAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe parents HATE children and want them to sit there like zombies so they invented ADHD to drug them.
We can veer off into another error here, the worship of (a different kind of) abuse. As C. S. Lewis pointed out, the devil sends errors into the world in pairs. Avoiding one exclusively sends people careening into the other.
War against women? Ha! That was BS, but this is an actual war against boys and childhood.
Though we don't deserve it, may we somehow be forgiven for our foolishness and the damage we've done to those whose care and development we've been entrusted.
May we wake up before we get to where this is leading US to.
Nope you’re wrong. And tons of people have it. They way they can tell is they treat it and the problems go away.
My ex was an elementary school teacher. She would tell parents that their child needed Ritalin.
Who was she to tell these parents that? She was a teacher with a masters degree. It took her four tries and the highest she ever made on her ACT was 16. She pretty much had a cabbage for a brain but she managed to become a public school teacher.
She had big boobs and I was young and stupid. Again, I said, my ex.
Funny, there was no ADHD when I was a kid. Maybe it’s because there was no Ritalin.
[Ritalin-pushers have an incentive to talk up ADHD]
Yup, then the run the mom out that cannot control their children and blame us all for not drugging them.
I’m pretty sure it wasn’t the devil that sent spanking into the world to correct children. And I don’t think it’s worship to acknowledge when something worked - I know my backside got worn out when I deserved it. And it worked.
Doctor: no such thing as Attention Deficient Look a Squirrel!
I couldn’t resist! :)
I remember a psychology book that showed drawings of 2 boys. One was an angelic looking creature and the other looked like he’d gotten into something dirty. The chapter said “beware of the perfect child”.
Things were so different - boys were allowed to be boys and fathers and mothers did what they had to do to set them straight. Worked for centuries.
Once discipline and consequences have been removed from our schools, and parental control toolboxes, there had to be something to blame.
Add to this, single parent families, or both parents working, and you have a marketplace quite willing to accept the “pill” approach to behavior control.
ADHD certainly exists for those who struggle with it. Are there spoiled brats who are misdiagnosed? Yes. Are there people who are correctly diagnosed? Yes.
You mean these children (mostly boys I might add) are just rotten little brats and typically aggressive as most boys are? I call it FS....football syndrome, i.e., Just gotta smash that kid and take his ball away.
Ding. Ding. Ding. 'Most children diagnosed with ADHD are boys' because most teachers forcing this to happen are liberal feminist womyn who are atheistic man-haters. They hate themselves and God for creating the world and man and woman with very different and distinct gifts and 'wiring'. They refuse to accept the feminine genius that God designed and seek to deny that any difference exists between the sexes. They seek to make this happen by feminizing the boys.
And so they are making our children (mostly boys) pay by drugging them for being boys ....
Sorry but this doctor is a moron. ADHD is certainly over diagnosed, and definitely over medicated, but there really are people that have serious brain chemistry caused difficulties not bouncing off the walls.
Which is assuming it had meaning other than describing a symptomatic behavior to start with.
I’ve always felt this ‘condition’ was dreamed up as a way to get extra money for parents of ‘disabled’ kids...
ADHD was invented so single mothers could force their kids to keep to a schedule.
Virtually everyone focuses better on the right level of stimulant—which is ADHD treatment.
Used to be that professional baseball players routinely took ‘greenies’ to improve performance. And, of course, there’s a massive black market for ADHD drugs in college, as a general aid to studying.
I hate being bi-polar. It’s AWESOME!
I started reading this article but then I got distracted...what was it about again?
A couple of weeks ago, when my daughter and I were out for ice cream, we were recognized by a young boy who also goes to my daughter’s (private) school. He was also out for ice cream with his mother. As I talked with the boy and his mother, it became obvious that he was a young man of superior intelligence, as well as social confidence; in fact, he mostly carried the conversation, which seemed to embarrass his mother a bit. When he casually mentioned being on medication for his “ADHD,” I was amazed and dismayed, although I said nothing. I do not believe that the school had any part in that diagnosis. I think it may have more to do with the fact that he is being raised by a single mom (whether divorced or widowed, I don’t know). I am a single mom myself, but I have a daughter, which I think is easier. My heart weeps for boys who are drugged for being boys.
There is no simple solution to this question. We live in an overbooked society where things are supposed to work. According to experts, teachers are supposed to be everything and anything in their classrooms. A teacher who isn’t must have a problem. A child that doesn’t fit in must be fixed, immediately. Parents have been made to feel that they should both be able to work, have children, be active in their churches, and communities or they are slackers. A child that doesn’t shut up and do his or her homework, etc. must be fixed, immediately. Drugs like Ritalin offer an instant fix but may cause problems down the line. Until we stop pretending that we can be all things to all people, we will keep blaming children for the problems that adults are causing.
It’s the Age of Inventions, whadya espek?
ADHD was invented by public schools. Why you say? Because for every child they can claim has a learning disability the Feds send them a bucket of extra cash!
The commie pubic school teachers are trained by their union to tell parents their child needs to be tested, and they just happen to have a list of approved doctors to do just that.
The entire scam is as simple as that, more money for commie teachers!
Well, then you’re ignorant. I had ADD undiagnosed for 30-something years. Stimulant drugs don’t make me hyper; they actually help me settle down, relax, get my thoughts together, and get busy. When they combine stimulants with anti-depressants, that can be a problem since (1) anti-depressants can make NORMAL people respond like ADD people to stimulants, (2) depression also causes inattentiveness, (3) being depressed and coming down from a high is a really, really bad idea.
How come Asian kids don’t have any of these trumped up maladies?
At what cost? Lots of symptoms 'go away' with medication. There are always side effects of one degree or another.
Also: If he was co-valedictorian, he obviously didn’t need ADD medications.
While I agree with almost everything he writes, after 29 yrs. of working with children I still believe that there are some children for whom the ADD/ADHD diagnosis is valid. If anything, the bad parenting (with which I heartily agree has been occurring) and the liberal psychobable explanations that have encouraged the lack of disciplinary action and abdication of good parenting may be masking the real deal. When one considers all the women that are on some type of birth control (that directly effects the hormonal system) and the increase in drug use in our nation - both over the counter and illegal - it’s not too great of a stretch to believe that those things are having an adverse effect on prenatal development.
It's grossly overdiagnosed, because everybody wants a quick fix, and if somebody really has ADD or ADHD, the correct drug in the correct dosage is indeed a miracle.
But for every kid who actually has the specific brain condition that is remedied by medication, there are probably 100 with various difficulties and problems - some intractable and heartbreaking - that their parents and teachers hope will benefit from a quick fix.
I've seen it even in parents who should know better (e.g. a physician).
” ‘Most children diagnosed with ADHD are boys’ because most teachers forcing this to happen are liberal feminist womyn who are atheistic man-haters”
I think that’s a bit of a stretch.
I avoided any kind of drug treatment and found an eye doctor who specialized in a form of brain remediation. My son went through his program and that did the trick.
Come to find out when he went into the first grade the principal of the school decided to switch reading programs without letting any of the parents know. So, my son was taught "look-say" and those reading exercises made it impossible for him to read correctly.
He's alright now, but I did have some experts tell me all he needed was drugs to "cure" his problem.
When there is a problem parents need to do their homework and figure out what's wrong. Drugs are usually a bandaid but the problem is still there.
My kid has ADHD. Her shrink said it is a problem with the underdeveloped pre-frontal cortex, which pertains to impulsivity.
Daydreaming was not a problem. She could do that, and follow the lesson in class at the same time, while sneaking peaks at a book she was reading under her desk! It was rather that she blurted out and acted out, without any self-awareness or situational awareness. It’s like a piece of her puzzle was completely missing. The medicine made it possible to do things that normal parenting includes, like going over homework, or helping her organize her things. She stopped running to the knife drawer every time she perceived a challenge, and could actually listen to instruction, begin to calm down, and respond. Her best self could emerge— with her humor and empathy and motivation, and better social skills.
I’d like to have her wean off of the meds, now that she is
older and can see the big picture a bit better and is motivated to manage herself.
I have no knowledge of whether the medication is over-prescribed or the condition is over-diagnosed, except to say that I know that happens because it happened to me on a dental condition that was the trendy condition-of-the-moment.
Healing is an art as much as a science, and mental health professionals have a lot to learn.
I don’t think my daughter’s treatment is great, but it has been better than nothing.
Judge if you must. I know many FReepers enjoy that. But let’s learn a bit from others’ experience, also, please.
All true. One of my sons, the calm, deliberative one who was bored out of his mind, was diagnosed with ADHD while his one-yr.-younger brother, a human cyclone, was not. Wish I’d taped the meeting with the shrink. The younger son (who’d accompanied us because he was home from school with a broken arm—having fallen from a friend’s zip-wire he was forbidden to try) was driving the doc crazy (never sat still for a second) while the elder son sat quietly while being “counseled” about his ailment. Perfect SNL skit.
it’s not a medical issue but it is a mineral deficiency issue. give a kid magnesium (the right kind) and add, adhd, and a plethora of other maladies will go completely away.
ADHD is certainly over diagnosed, that I know for sure. We have a provisional diagnoses for our son who is five. We have chosen to treat him with diet and exercise and not drugs. We now eat a clean diet; i.e. no artificial colors, flavors, preservatives, sweeteners, etc. We make almost all of our food from scratch. We are so much healthier as a result. When my son does get exposed to these things, especially artificial colors, it sets off his issues frighteningly badly. We’ve even experimented with him: His teacher gave him gummy worms a few time one month and noted the dates and his behaviors. We journaled his behaviors as well, without knowing which days he was exposed to the poison. His very bad days at home correlated to the days he had gummy worms.
True ADHD cannot be disciplined out of a child. For those who think it can, perhaps you can take that special knowledge to a cancer treatment center and insist that the patients be spanked until their body’s stop producing abnormal cells. It can be treated therapeutically by loving parents who don’t want zombie children.
We are treating our son’s diagnosis as a gift: Like many true ADHD people, he has a higher IQ. We take advantage of that and expose him to more information than a typical five-year-old.
I’m not a single mom trying to drug my kid into submission because parenting is hard. As already stated, we don’t give him drugs at all. My husband and I have been married for 11 years now, and our five-year-old is our oldest child. Both sets of grandparents are still married. We were raised in church and are raising our children in church. Corporal punishment is used when appropriate, and TV time is greatly monitored and limited.
Cool! What kind of magnesium and how much? (You are not a magnesium salesman, are you?)