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To cheers and tears, defiant Putin sets out conservative agenda
Reuters ^ | 03/18/2014 | Timothy Heritage

Posted on 03/18/2014 10:53:20 AM PDT by goldstategop

(Reuters) - To thunderous applause, cheers and even tears, Vladimir Putin delivered a fiercely patriotic speech on Tuesday that laid claim to Crimea and set out a vision of a Greater Russia that could define his third term as President.

In a 47-minute address to his loyal political and business elite that was interrupted by clapping at least 30 times, Putin described a deeply conservative world view in which Russia hankered after land lost when the Soviet Union collapsed.

Presenting himself as the guardian of the nation and of Russians everywhere, the former KGB spy spat defiance at the West and charted an inward-looking course that underlined the shift in his thinking since he first rose to power 14 years ago.

"In the hearts and minds of people, Crimea has always been and remains an inseparable part of Russia," Putin said in a passionate address, delivered from a lectern in the Kremlin's glittering St George Hall two days after Crimea voted in a disputed referendum to become part of Russia.

Two years after mass protests in Moscow and other big cities that briefly shook his grip on power, this was the Putin of old - confident, defiant and steely, and, for many Russians, at his best in a crisis.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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KEYWORDS: communist; conservatism; crimea; presidentputin; putin; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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I'm flattered!

Then again, conservatives are the ones who look at the world as it is, not how it should be.

Russia's President Putin is many things, but being a starry-eyed liberal wet dreamer isn't one of them.

1 posted on 03/18/2014 10:53:20 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Funny how Al Reuters seems to cheer lead for Putin’s Conservatives and destroys Tea Party Conservatives.


2 posted on 03/18/2014 10:55:23 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: goldstategop

Check mate, Barry.


3 posted on 03/18/2014 10:56:37 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2

The Russian Ronald Reagan.

We miss the Gipper!


4 posted on 03/18/2014 10:57:44 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Zathras

That was before they discovered Putin is not onboard with the homosexual agenda.


5 posted on 03/18/2014 10:59:57 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: goldstategop

Putin has his first body bag in Crimea. You keep good company, FRiend.


6 posted on 03/18/2014 11:00:24 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: goldstategop

He’s the first true leader there since Kruschev


7 posted on 03/18/2014 11:00:34 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: goldstategop

Putin - conservative? Brush up on your definitions, he is on the opposite side of the spectrum: the classic textbook variety of a fascist. The sad fact is that overwhelming majority of Russians are the same xenophobic maniacs. I say: nuke them.


8 posted on 03/18/2014 11:00:39 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: goldstategop

I hadn’t thought of that, but your right, Putin is sort of the Russian version of Reagan.


9 posted on 03/18/2014 11:01:04 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: goldstategop

“The Russian Ronald Reagan.”

More phony propaganda from you to support a bloody dictator. Reagan served to liberate nations from totalitarian governments, while Putin’s ambitions to recreate a “Greater Russia” is the totalitarianism Reagan served to deter and defeat.


10 posted on 03/18/2014 11:02:02 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: goldstategop

This is a back-handed way of smearing US conservatives by implying they are just like Putin.


11 posted on 03/18/2014 11:02:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: goldstategop

He must have total contempt for Obama and his “Tell Putin I can be more flexible after my election”.

Nobody loves a traitor except rats.


12 posted on 03/18/2014 11:03:28 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

No, you are both wrong. Using your logic, let’s declare Saddam Hussein a Reagan of Mideast.


13 posted on 03/18/2014 11:04:18 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Samogon

Patriotism, respect for one’s ancestors, conserving past traditions and maintaining a backbone - I consider those conservative values.

Our own leaders dismiss them as 19th Century values! Putin gave us a sharp lesson today in what it means to stand up for one’s country.

Even I consider him our adversary, I cannot find fault with anything he has said.


14 posted on 03/18/2014 11:04:40 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

15 posted on 03/18/2014 11:05:43 AM PDT by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: a fool in paradise

Vladimir Vladimirovich said: “This is not about your little fegs eny mores, you Vestern fegs, it’s about my beeg umpire! Here, hear me sing a tuna by one of your oppressed minorities Fets Domingo “Blooberry Hill”.


16 posted on 03/18/2014 11:06:19 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: WhiskeyX

Consider how Americans felt proud of Reagan and he restored our country’s greatness and prestige.

Putin has done that for Russia and Obama has shamed us by displaying effeminate servility before friend and foe alike.

If we want to be a great country, we mus be feared.


17 posted on 03/18/2014 11:08:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: lodi90
Putin has his first body bag in Crimea

How many kids has Obama droned to death? How many Christians have Uncle Scam's Al Qaeda allies slaughtered in Syria?

18 posted on 03/18/2014 11:09:02 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: goldstategop

These are the same people who called the hardline communist conservatives. You’re duped twice if you think that’s a complement.


19 posted on 03/18/2014 11:09:26 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: Aria
"Flexible"...I can't even imagine a USA President saying that to any courier for any country.

But then again, it's the same person who said..."The sweetest sound...." and...."I will stand by the Muslims....."

20 posted on 03/18/2014 11:09:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: goldstategop

You long for a communist dictator?


21 posted on 03/18/2014 11:09:38 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: goldstategop

Of course, a complete reversal to the “days of yore” for Russia is a “reactionary” move and not a “conservative” move by Russia in politial terms. However, Reuters wants to use that term so that the negative issues of Russia’s move on the world stage are associated with “conservative” and negative connotations the media always wants associated with the term “conservative.”

Conservative would have been slow careful reform and revison, something that is not associated with anything in that unfortunate area right now.


22 posted on 03/18/2014 11:10:35 AM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Sorry, but Reagan was not a communist dictator.


23 posted on 03/18/2014 11:10:44 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Russian Reagan?” Reagan didn’t believe in a one party state run by a former secret police man. Reagan had faith in the people and didn’t want the government bothering them or interfering in their lives. Putin’s is an autocrat on a good day.


24 posted on 03/18/2014 11:11:12 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: goldstategop
Some cannot understand the concept of grudging respect.

Yes, Putin is our enemy. He wishes us harm.

But I can understand why the Russian people think he's t*ts.

25 posted on 03/18/2014 11:11:21 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: goldstategop

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/mar/18/vladimir-putin-annex-crimea-russia-ukraine-video


26 posted on 03/18/2014 11:11:37 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: goldstategop

Perhaps the word “conservative” fits...it’s obvious that a conservative (Putin) is much more intelligent, tactical, and successful than is our liberal progressive Obamadork/felon/quota boy. (And boy, do I mean BOY!)


27 posted on 03/18/2014 11:11:44 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

How many kids has Obama droned to death? How many Christians have Uncle Scam’s Al Qaeda allies slaughtered in Syria?


That’s a straw argument and false equivalence. Both putin and the kenyan can be worthy of opposition. You need to learn to multi task, FRiend.


28 posted on 03/18/2014 11:11:46 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: goldstategop

That is a scurrilous thing to say about President Reagan. He was not a communist.


29 posted on 03/18/2014 11:12:22 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Some people, the type who’d want to be associated with Putin as a “conservative,” are actually too ignorant of what conservatism is to be one. They’re simply worshiping power.


30 posted on 03/18/2014 11:12:30 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: ozzymandus

Hardly.

I do long for a great country with a strong government capable of defending our interests aboad and preserving our traditional values at home.

We certainly do not need to copy others to learn how its done. Americans are capable of doing that for themselves.


31 posted on 03/18/2014 11:12:42 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Samogon
I say: nuke them

Dude! Where do you live?

New Zealand?

32 posted on 03/18/2014 11:12:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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To: Samogon

Where on earth are you coming from?


33 posted on 03/18/2014 11:13:16 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fighter pilot manoeuvers"? One of the Saudi’s we trained in Texas years ago?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This is a back-handed way of smearing US conservatives by implying they are just like Putin.

Just like the Iranian clerics, by some baffling reason they are also "Conservative".

No word on Kim Jong Un - yet.

34 posted on 03/18/2014 11:15:02 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: wideawake

The Putin/Reagan comparisons are flying fast and furious on this thread.


35 posted on 03/18/2014 11:15:42 AM PDT by Borges
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To: trisham

I didn’t mean it in a derogatory manner.

I mean the Russians have a leader like we used to have in Reagan: patriotic, proud, defiant, steely and confident.

Those are things Americans liked about Reagan and that Russians like about Putin.

Not like the man-child we have in Obama.


36 posted on 03/18/2014 11:15:49 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The words Obama and leader, like the words Obama and president should never be used in the same sentence.


37 posted on 03/18/2014 11:18:15 AM PDT by sport
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To: Borges

Yup - we shouldn’t go too far with them.

Russia is a worthy and determined adversary and we must treat it as such - with respectful resistance.

And Obama is not Putin’s equal and will never be.


38 posted on 03/18/2014 11:20:00 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: WhiskeyX

Putin is seeking to liberate ethnic Russians from nations that seek to mistreat and marginalize them. And is also standing with those who have chosen not to follow the west into the ditch of debauchery, abortion promotion and sodomy that liberals everywhere lead by Obama seem hell bent on driving us into.

I have no allegiance to a country which has forsaken freedom for an imperial presidency which actively promotes sodomy, abortion, debachary, and is aggressively anti-Christian. My allegiance is to freedom and to the free country into which I was born that apparently no longer exists.


39 posted on 03/18/2014 11:21:15 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: sport

Amen.

I can’t find one reason to like our own President and I find myself respecting his nemesis.

Welcome to our new reality!


40 posted on 03/18/2014 11:21:37 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: sport

Amen.

I can’t find one reason to like our own President and I find myself respecting his nemesis.

Welcome to our new reality!


41 posted on 03/18/2014 11:21:37 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I can see the libs using this, big time. Equating conservatives and Tea Party folks to “evil Putin” and his taking over of other countries.
They will try to scare people into thinking if they vote conservative, you will vote for mean people who will take everythign away from you. A new spin on an old lie.


42 posted on 03/18/2014 11:21:50 AM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: goldstategop; Samogon

RE Putin:

Many out here have a positive opinion of him. I believe it’s mainly because we have such a lousy contrast of our own to point to. This guy, at the very least, loves his own country. No denying that. And people respect that idea. But there is also no denying that the guy IS “The Boss”, brooks no dissent, and sees himself that way. That is NOT an American value, nor is it one we should look up to.

I would liken it to - maybe sort of how many viewed Rommel in WWII...

They watched Rommel take apart British armies in the Desert one after another, disgracing Wavell and Auchinleck in the process and then he took us apart at Kasserine Pass; all Allied commanders were very aware of his abilities, and they respected what he was capable of and respected his skills. Yet Monty finally beat at El Alamien (in ‘42, with overwhelming numerical odds), and Patton beat him at El Guettar (in ‘43), and ultimately we drove the Afrika Corps out of the middle east.

In other words - You respected the general and his abilities as an adversary... but he was nevertheless an adversary to be defeated.

Make sense?


43 posted on 03/18/2014 11:22:44 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: goldstategop
To cheers and tears, defiant Putin sets out conservative agenda,

Definitely an OCD headline. Rooters apparently can't publish anything without committing an act of defamation against conservatives.

44 posted on 03/18/2014 11:22:49 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: NFHale

I think it makes sense.

Countries have different values and cultures and no conservative in our country has ever said we want to be like Russia.

I want America to remain America.


45 posted on 03/18/2014 11:25:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: vpintheak

Wouldn’t have to go farther than this thread to find comments to support that assertion.


46 posted on 03/18/2014 11:25:57 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: goldstategop
Rooters seems like a kid caught cheating in class, polishes an apple for the Principal who just took over the school, while continuing to lie to the teacher.

Rooters is gonna have to transfer to ever get out of the Principal's office.

The "Conservative" reference is character assassination of American Conservatives by conflation rather than an acknowledgment of effective policy by Putin.

If Putin wants to speak to Rooters about this, he can find "em on their knee pads in front of Obama.

47 posted on 03/18/2014 11:26:17 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: goldstategop

Socialism with a nationalist bent to unite the people. Sounds like the Nazi approach to me.


48 posted on 03/18/2014 11:26:33 AM PDT by yawningotter
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To: goldstategop

Kleptocracy and totalitarianism are now “conservative?”

Huh. Whoda guessed?


49 posted on 03/18/2014 11:26:38 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a pedophile and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Let’s put the Obama-loving MSM on knee pads in front of Putin.


50 posted on 03/18/2014 11:27:49 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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