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Posted on 03/18/2014 12:31:13 PM PDT by robowombat
We Are Being Stormed: Russian Forces Reportedly Attack Ukrainian Troops In Crimea, At Least One Reported Dead
UPDATE, 12:10 p.m. ET: At least one soldier is now being reported dead in the attack:
Reuters: news agency reports military spokesperson saying Ukrainian serviceman has been killed during attack on Ukrainian base in Crimea We Are Being Stormed: Russian Forces Reportedly Attack Ukrainian Troops In Crimea, At Least One Reported Deadabout 3 hours ago via SkyNews Alerts - BreakingReplyRetweetFavorite We Are Being Stormed: Russian Forces Reportedly Attack Ukrainian Troops In Crimea, At Least One Reported Dead@SkyNewsBreak Sky News Newsdesk
UPDATE, 12:07 p.m. ET: Russian forces are reportedly pushing back the press at the scene:
Ukrainian troops said Tuesday that they were being attacked by Russian forces at a base in Crimeas main city, Simferopol, the Interfax news agency reported, according to Reuters.
One Ukrainian serviceman has been wounded in the neck and collarbone. Now we have barricaded ourselves on the second floor. The headquarters has been taken and the commander has been taken. They want us to put down our arms but we do not intend to surrender, a military spokesperson reportedly said.
We are being stormed. Share: We are being stormed. We have about 20 people here and about 10 to 15 others, including women, an unidentified serviceman told Fifth Channel television, according to Reuters. One of our officers was wounded during the attack, grazed in the neck and arm.
This is a developing news story. Updates will be added.
ACT OF WAR??!!
All you have to do is put down any weapons and walk out. If you were stormed, you would have all been captured or dead.
The Kryminform news agency, citing an unnamed local police source, reports shooting came from a house under construction opposite the center and targeted Crimean self-defense units as well the military center itself.
Earlier today self-defense units were informed that a group of armed men had been discovered in a partially inhabited building, a source from the ministry said. As they were taking measures to check, self-defense units came under fire. One man was killed, one wounded, the source explained, adding that shooting came in two directions from one spot.
The Kryminform source claimed another man from the military center was wounded.
RTs producer contacted staff inside the military center, who confirmed that the shooting did take place and came from a nearby house under construction. At the same time, the man had no information on the casualties.
Meanwhile, multiple reports that a Ukrainian serviceman died in the incident are unconfirmed by our crew at the scene.
They have a right to defend themselves from Putin’s thugs.
But... but... but... Pootie is a nice guy! He would never hurt anybody. </sarcasm>
These soldiers didn’t get the memo that Crimea is now Russian territory.
They are in Russia now and are lucky to be alive.
Those troops for Ukraine are occupying a sovereign nation (newly formed)of Crimea in violation of International law and will be forceably removed if necessary by willing neighbors if properly requested.The Ukrainian jack booted thugs who over through their duly elected President, will leave now or be terminated.
Putin’s network. You’re quoting from his personally owned network.
Put down weapons? What a noble idea. I have another one: how about raise them and shoot the enemy?
For those of you suggesting that what is going on in the Ukraine is somehow justified, would you have the same opinion if the Mexican army invaded Southern California to “protect Spanish speaking peoples”, then promptly conducted a referendum giving Americans in those areas a choice between joining Mexico or having a “special” autonomous relationship with the US? I suspect that there are Democrats who would be ok with that scenario but no conservative would support such nonsense. Just because Ukraine doesn’t have the military might to defend itself from Russian aggression does not make the use of Russian force acceptable. There are many things that the US and Europe could do to support the Ukraine that do not involve immediate military intervention. These silly “sanctions” against a handful of Russian government officials are a complete farce.
May lots of Russian soldiers, policemen, secret policemen, like Putin, be killed in Ukraine. Kill them anyway you can and avenge all the wrongs the Russians have inflicted on Ukraine in the centuries, all the millions starved to death by Stalin and his secret police that Putin worked for and is still a member of.
What if Cuba suddenly decided that the US base at Guantanamo Bay is no longer valid and they are going to take steps to reclaim it?
Does the US simply sit back and let it happen?
Time for another strongly-worded letter.
I'm certainly not supporting what Russia is doing in Crimea but I'm also not buying the news reports that are coming out now.......
A military "storming" would certainly involve a hell of a lot more dead than just one.......
This is reminiscent of the attrocities that the U.S. was accused of when we went into Iraq.......
It would under Obama.
We only lease the base. It ends if we don’t pay, if we abandon it or both agree.
A military “storming” would certainly involve a hell of a lot more dead than just one.......
Yes, but Putin knows a lot about various active measures and constant armed heckling and sniping by uniformed but ‘unknown parties’ would be a good tactic to unsettle a garrison that is already effectively in enemy territory and pretty much cut off from their country. The Russians don’t seek a war but the evacuation of the Crimea by all Ukrainian military forces. If they keep up ratcheting up the pressure they probably will get the desired results.
“No conservative would support”
But lots of conservatives apparently support things like self-determination for all (self-identified) peoples, a profoundly unconservative idea.
What is happening in Eastern Europe is pure progressive Wilsonianism, and real conservatives should hate it.
Wow. lol - what international law would that be? And what neighbors are going to help? Oh, that’s right the Russians who invaded a sovereign nation. The Russians will “help” themselves to stolen territory.
Yep, most of the news reports are BS.
The best one so far was the one with the headline about Russian book burnings because some Ukrainian in the suburbs used a book to start a fire.
i WAS THINKING OF THE SAME THING...
And what, pray tell, was your position on Slovenian and Croatian independence in 1992?
We (NATO) set the precedent so the Germans could get access to the Adriatic. Now the Russians want Crimea and used the exact procedure we set forward in Yugoslavia. No need for “what-ifs.”
What’s good for the goose...
Really?? Going French while facing Russians? Ever consider the possibility these soldiers have been stuck in that region since all this began?
I agree, and they've probably been pre-arranged between Obama and Putin, so Obama could appear to be "doing something" without actually affecting Russia to any extent. Post-election flexibility and all.
Russian dictators can always find people in the west to defend them, excuse them, praise them. It must be a gift.
Will the Marxists around Obama and pulling his strings ever learn that when it comes to responding to foreign provocations with red lines or 11 of you guys can’t go to Las Vegas a few months that such actions make them (and US) look silly and small and timid and only encourage and embolden men like Putin?!
For certain, it would be wiser to do nothing!
Cuba hasn’t cashed the rent checks since Castro took over.
Oliver Stone (seriously) says it’s all Bush’s fault.
Your example is not fanciful. That is EXACTLY the reason not to allow millions of illegal and unasimilated Mexicans into this country. Of course they can eventually do this to us.
Bingo, and all these isolationists would permit a nuclear armed Russia to reemerge as a new Hitler or Stalin in Europe, something we cannot afford while also contending with China.
Obama is an idiot and Putin should have been stopped before this happened.
No one is suggesting we need to send in troops and start WWIII, but yeah Europe matters to us.
Lets be aware of those who want us to rush into war.
Take a look at history re 4 August 1964.
LBJs duplicity got us into a land war in SE Asia and split this country apart.
LBJs duplicity cost a lot of lives and left thousands of brave soldiers, Marines, Air Force and Sailors mentally harmed for life.
On 2 August 1964, North Vietnamese patrol torpedo boats attacked the USS Maddox (DD-731) while the destroyer was in international waters in the Gulf of Tonkin. There is no doubting that fact.
But what happened in the Gulf during the late hours of 4 Augustand the consequential actions taken by U.S. officials in Washingtonhas been seemingly cloaked in confusion and mystery ever since that night.
Over the next three hours, the two ships repeatedly maneuvered at high speeds to evade perceived enemy boat attacks. The destroyers reported automatic-weapons fire; more than 20 torpedo attacks; sightings of torpedo wakes, enemy cockpit lights, and searchlight illumination; and numerous radar and surface contacts. By the time the destroyers broke off their counterattack, they had fired 249 5-inch shells, 123 3-inch shells, and four or five depth charges.
Commander Stockdale was again in the action, this time alone. When his wingmans aircraft developed trouble, Stockdale got permission to launch solo from the Ticonderoga . He arrived overhead at 2135. For more than 90 minutes, he made runs parallel to the ships course and at low altitude (below 2,000 feet) looking for the enemy vessels. He reported later, I had the best seat in the house to watch that event and our destroyers were just shooting at phantom targetsthere were no PT boats there . . . there was nothing there but black water and American firepower.
Captain Herrick also began to have doubts about the attack. As the battle continued, he realized the attacks were actually the results of overeager sonar operators and poor equipment performance. The Turner Joy had not detected any torpedoes during the entire encounter, and Herrick determined that the Maddox s operators were probably hearing the ships propellers reflecting off her rudder during sharp turns. 12 The destroyers main gun director was never able to lock onto any targets because, as the operator surmised, the radar was detecting the stormy seas wave tops.
By 0127 on 5 August, hours after the attacks had occurred, Herrick had queried his crew and reviewed the preceding hours events. He sent a flash (highest priority) message to Honolulu, which was received in Washington at 1327 on 4 August, declaring his doubts: Review of action makes many reported contacts and torpedoes fired appear doubtful. Freak weather effects on radar and overeager sonarmen may have accounted for many reports. No actual visual sightings by MADDOX. Suggest complete evaluation before any further action taken.
Right after a round of golf.
What I find amusing now is how suddenly Obama found a way to get all you Freepers who have been his opponents on pretty much everything from day one, on his side and on board with his propaganda.. Suddenly there is one guy on this planet who has stood up to Obama and the rest of the EU idiots, has stood against the homosexual agenda, the western porn/violence culture, everything that Freepers continually bitch about as the downfall of our nation... MAYBE, just MAYBE your being played on this one as well? Play on the old soviet fear, team america rah rah get er done mentality and create something he can win over even his staunchest opponents with... hmm.
I love it, from RT, obviously an unbiased source. And the shooting came “in 2 directions from 1 spot”. Gunmen speak with forked tongue, kemo sabe.
Who was on the grassy knoll?
Obama probably would do exactly that.
The CFE (Conventional Forces in Europe) Treaty, and the nuclear-arms reduction negotiations conducted by the Western powers were important stabilizing considerations in the early 1990s, coming right after the fall of the Soviet Union. They helped ensure that no nuclear weapons would fall into the hands of terrorist groups or other states. I was involved as one of Ukraines advisors on the CFE Treaty, and was consulted on the implications for Ukraine. So I know much of this first hand.
Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma was aware that giving up Ukraines nuclear arms would make Ukraine vulnerable to aggression from its neighbor, Russia even if Boris Yeltsin was a pro-Western democrat and certainly not likely to use aggression against Ukraine. But what might happen after Yeltsin? Both Kuchma and Ukraines Parliament knew that Crimea (and Eastern Ukraine) could become an issue in the future, especially if the next Russian president exhibited the old Soviet imperialist mentality.
Thats why Kuchma, and Ukraine more generally, required guarantees and assurances from the other major nuclear powers Russia, the United States and the UK (and later France and China, which signed on) that its sovereignty and its territorial integrity would be respected.
With the Budapest Memorandum, U.S. President Bill Clinton, Russias Yeltsin, and UK Prime Minister John Major pledged to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine. Vladimir Putin seems to have forgotten about this.
The Budapest Memorandum also provided that any of the parties could request a meeting of all the parties at any time to consult in the event that a situation arises relating to Ukraines sovereignty or territorial integrity.
A week ago, Britain, the United States and France called for just such a consultation meeting, to be held in Paris on March 5. Russia was given notice of the meeting, and was invited to attend. On the appointed day, all the parties arrived but Russia refused to attend, despite the fact that Russian aggression was the reason the meeting was called in the first place.
This is completely unacceptable behavior by a major power, and Russia should, in my opinion, be treated as a pariah state, and an international outlaw for its flagrant breach of international. You cannot sign an agreement guaranteeing the sovereignty and territorial integrity of a neighbour, and then invade it. There have to be consequence
The Ukrainian Parliament voted him out of office. He left Kiev under his own volition. He also resigned from office. The corruption and stolen funds evident in his palatial residence along with the killing of 80 people helped to persuade the Parliament, including his own party, to remove him.
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