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Sigh: No, Obamacare Hasn't Reached 'Five Million Enrollments'
Townhall.com ^ | March 18, 2014 | Guy Benson

Posted on 03/18/2014 3:15:54 PM PDT by Kaslin

You know the drill by now. The Obama administration releases an enrollment figure, the media credulously repeats it, then we bring you the facts. It's becoming something of a ritual around these parts. Let's begin with the spin. Get excited about these inflated numbers, America:

Obamacare enrollment hits 5 million http://t.co/A61bMGdvvL — Aaron Blake (@AaronBlakeWP) March 17, 2014


End of Feb.: 4.2M Obamacare enrollees. Today: 5M Obamacare enrollees. Needed b/t now and 3/31: 1M Obamacare sign-ups to hit CBO projection — Sarah Kliff (@sarahkliff) March 17, 2014



Back in reality, the generally-accepted estimate of the nationwide non-payment rate is 20 percent -- meaning that one-fifth of the "newly enrollment" are not, in fact, enrolled. The administration "counts" anyone who's placed an Obamacare exchange plan in their virtual shopping cart as signed up. Kathleen Sebelius again testified last week that HHS is not keeping track of who checks out and pays their first month's premium, which are necessary steps to becoming fully enrolled. (I've included that video below). As of a few weeks ago, payment delinquency rates were close to 50 percent in certain states. Nearly half of the few previously-uninsured Americans who have selected plans through Obamacare are not paid up. Also, the overwhelming majority of these "new" enrollees are not obtaining coverage for the first time. Most had insurance prior to Obamacare. According to estimate, fewer than 30 percent of those signing up are first-time enrollees. Two independent studies revealed that roughly 90 percent of eligible consumers who were uninsured before the law's implementation have chosen not to purchase plans on Obamacare's exchanges. The top reason cited was lack of affordability. Here's my back-of-the envelope math about the real progress

WIth 20% nonpayment rate, actual enrollment # is ~4 million -- 57% of the administration's 2013/2014 goal, w/ 2 weeks to go. #Math — Guy Benson (@guypbenson) March 17, 2014


That's based on the White House's original target of seven million, which they've since tried to pretend never happened. If you take these calculations a step further by only tallying enrollments of (a) newly-insured people who (b) have activated their coverage by paying, the accurate "new enrollment" number sits just north of one million. And that's using the relatively generous 20 percent nonpayment rate assumption. Remember, according to the McKinsey study, the delinquency percentage among this group is more than double the broader national one-fifth figure. I'll leave you with Kathleen Sebelius testifying once again that she and her merry band of Obamacare administrators have no idea how many people are actually fully enrolled, or how many of them had coverage before this $2 trillion program took effect:


Kathleen Sebelius: 'I Don't Know' How Many ObamaCare Enrollees Have Paid

Phil Klein makes a number of similar points, noting that enrollment has accelerated in March, compared to February's deceleration.


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1 posted on 03/18/2014 3:15:54 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Talk about NET enrollments (including losses of coverage) and you are closer to reality.


2 posted on 03/18/2014 3:24:55 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Kaslin

I used the same method yesterday to calculate the REAL enrollments and came up with a similar number of just over 1 million people who have signed up and paid who previously didn’t have insurance. And you can bet your bottom dollar nearly every one of those had major medical problems like AIDS.


3 posted on 03/18/2014 3:28:05 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

And were enrolled in Medicaid.


4 posted on 03/18/2014 3:30:36 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Kaslin

Even if they did get 5 million thats still 35 million shy of the supposedly 40 million uninsured they revamped the whole system for.


5 posted on 03/18/2014 3:37:25 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Kaslin

There are lots of holes in the budgeting, and fewer people signed up might mean certain expenses will be lower...and obviously others higher because of who signed up...

...but 2 trillion over ten years is 200 billion per year, divided be a million, is $200,000 per.


6 posted on 03/18/2014 3:38:01 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

And that point should be made loud and clear

Either people who lost their insurance due to this crapola

Or people with pre existing conditions who weren’t otherwise insurable before


7 posted on 03/18/2014 3:40:07 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Hey 2008, we told you so)
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To: Kaslin

Are there humans that don’t assume obama’s minions are lying whenever they’re saying anything?

I did not know that.


8 posted on 03/18/2014 3:51:06 PM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: Kaslin

9 posted on 03/18/2014 4:02:53 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Kaslin

They come out with all sorts of numbers for just about anything. They can say they have 50 million signed up - who’s going to question that?


10 posted on 03/18/2014 4:04:26 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice.)
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To: Kaslin
Sigh: No, Obamacare Hasn't Reached 'Five Million Enrollments'...wow, not even five million - considering this whole scam was launched to provide coverage for fifteen percent of the population - forty-five million people - that's pretty pathetic - at an estimated cost of a trillion dollars so far, I'd hate to see what it would cost to cover everyone.....
11 posted on 03/18/2014 4:39:28 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Kaslin

Why would it be good if everyone had to enroll.


12 posted on 03/18/2014 4:41:33 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Kaslin

I think most of the inscos are just carrying everyone regardless of paying. so they can get the subsidies.


13 posted on 03/18/2014 5:08:49 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Kaslin

Oh, I’m sure obammy’s minions will come up with the numbers from somewhere. And the media can’t wait to eat it up and crow it from the top-of-the-page to the top-of-the-hour, and never question it.


14 posted on 03/18/2014 5:16:14 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: jeffc

This is one of the biggest financial scams in history. All of the LIB/DIM bums responsible for this crime should be in prison.


15 posted on 03/18/2014 5:39:47 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Kaslin

I was thinking the other day...

I wonder how many of those that they count are in actuality the veterans at the VA clinics and hospitals who were automatically enrolled in ObamaCare ..

anyone who goes to the VA for treatment is now under the care of the Witchdoctor-of-the-White-House...


16 posted on 03/18/2014 6:01:26 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kaslin

One thing ObamaCare definitely HAS done is to inflate premiums for everyone else.

Thank you Obama.


17 posted on 03/18/2014 7:34:03 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Kaslin

Top Cancer Centers Off-Limits Under Obamacare

Some of America’s best cancer hospitals are off-limits to many of the people now signing up for coverage under the nation’s new health care program.

Doctors and administrators say they’re concerned. So are some state insurance regulators. An Associated Press survey found examples coast to coast.

AP Excerpted. Go to the link to identify the top cancer treatment hospitals not covered.

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/top-cancer-centers-limits-under-obamacare-n56531


18 posted on 03/19/2014 3:22:35 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Too bad Obama does not take OUR borders as seriously as he does the Ukraine!)
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