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Turkey Threatens to Close Bosphorus for Russian Ships [also will not recognize Crimean vote]
Sofia News Agency ^ | March 18, 2014 | Sofia News Agency

Posted on 03/18/2014 5:46:15 PM PDT by No One Special

Turkey will close the Bosphorus for Russian ships, if there is violence against the Crimean Tatars, said Turkish prime minister Recep Erdogan.

In a phone conversation with Russian president Vladimir Putin, quoted by a diplomatic source, Erdogan also said that Turkey will not recognize the referendum in Crimea in which 97% of the voters cast their ballots in favour of joining the Russian Federation.

“Turkey wants Ukraine to keep its territorial integrity,” Erdogan said. “If NATO takes a decision on the matter, we will certainly stick with it.”

Earlier Erdogan had a phone conversation with the leader of the Crimean Tatars Mustafa Dzhemilev in which they discussed the threats against the Tatars in connection to the factual annexation of Crimea.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: bosphorus; crimea; iran; lebanon; nato; putinsbuttboys; russia; surrendermonkeys; syria; turkey; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; waronterror; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 03/18/2014 5:46:15 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: No One Special

Brilliant....cut off oil shipments to Europe. And I believe Turkey is pretty energy dependent on Russian.


2 posted on 03/18/2014 5:50:43 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: No One Special

Well that will make their warm water port much less useful.


3 posted on 03/18/2014 5:52:40 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Sacajaweau

How is Turkey going to cut off oil shipments from Nigeria, Libya and the Middle East to Europe?


4 posted on 03/18/2014 5:53:20 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: All

Now that we have muslims, obama, and McCain on the same side
...how ya feelin about being on their team?


5 posted on 03/18/2014 5:54:32 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: No One Special

The Turks evermore leaning towards Islam will get their ass kicked by the Russians. The Russians are tired of dealing with Muslims.


6 posted on 03/18/2014 5:54:44 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: No One Special

Funny. I was just thinking about the siege of Plevna the other day.

It was part of this conflict: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War_(1877%E2%80%931878)


7 posted on 03/18/2014 5:55:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: No One Special

So far, Turkey is the only country willing to put their money where their mouth is. It’s a real risk but they don’t want a resurrected Russian Empire.


8 posted on 03/18/2014 5:55:09 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: No One Special

Here’s a link to a website that shows ship positions worldwide. Click on the icon for info about the individual ships. When and if Turkey slams the door on the Russians you can watch their ships pile up north and south of the straits. Zoom in to the area.

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/


9 posted on 03/18/2014 5:57:42 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: BenLurkin

Crimean War
Russo-Turkish War
The Boxer Rebellion

Little flashpoints which engaged the Great Powers in one way or another and which continued until the big Blow-Out of World War I ... or until WWII convinced everyone that cold was better than hot.


10 posted on 03/18/2014 5:58:21 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: No One Special

Time for Great Britain to send in THE LIGHT BRIGADE! Or will the USA take on that role?


11 posted on 03/18/2014 6:00:17 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: icwhatudo
...how ya feelin about being on their team?

Logical fallacy of false choice. Look it up.

12 posted on 03/18/2014 6:01:13 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: No One Special
Ah, the "dirty old Turks." God Allah bless'em.
13 posted on 03/18/2014 6:01:38 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: No One Special


The place in question is right where it says Istanbul on the south side of the map. This is how you get out of the Black Sea into the Med.
14 posted on 03/18/2014 6:02:30 PM PDT by FXRP
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To: No One Special; a fool in paradise; dfwgator; Slings and Arrows

It’s nobody’s business but the Turks’ !


15 posted on 03/18/2014 6:03:05 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Time for Great Britain to send in THE LIGHT BRIGADE! Or will the USA take on that role?

I don't think that Great Britain can afford to do much of anything beyond its own borders. But they will give moral support and that does count for something.

The USA won't do ANYthing with this brainless, ballackbonesless POTUS we have now. Not surprising for a Democrat choice.
WHAT IDIOCY a shame that so many Americans voted him in for a SECOND TERM.

16 posted on 03/18/2014 6:05:53 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: No One Special

In Past history Russia (1800’s)dictated to Turkey whom could utilize the Straits of Istanbul (Bosphorous) so now Turkey says hold on, Russia must have our permission to enter and exit through our territory when it was to move to and from the Black sea. Yes there are oil tankers, But the emphasis on Turkey is Military Ships.

History has a way of biting Russia in the backside. Russia my want a manifest destiny, but Turkey is saying hold on. The Tatars (muslims) in Crimea will be protected by Turkey. Here we have a problem the Bear can come down and dictate to Turkey and we have the conflaguration of the next war that takes place of the Plains of megiddo (Armaggedon)in the Middle East


17 posted on 03/18/2014 6:06:10 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: JimSEA

Plus they used to own Crimea, too.


18 posted on 03/18/2014 6:10:56 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: No One Special

No one should be shocked when Panama suddenly denies access to NATO. Actions have consequences.

Not saying it’s good. Just saying don’t be surprised.


19 posted on 03/18/2014 6:11:16 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: No One Special

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Turkish_Straits


20 posted on 03/18/2014 6:11:33 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: No One Special

This is a joke, right? Putin would make mincemeat of that Islamic idiot Erdogan. He is going to close the Bosporus on Putin??? Turkey’s entire economy is dependent on Bosporus shipping. All he wants to do is take his citizens’ attention off of the mess he has created in Turkey.


21 posted on 03/18/2014 6:11:38 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: No One Special

Didn’t Turkey do something like this 100 years ago?


22 posted on 03/18/2014 6:12:33 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: FXRP
The place in question is right where it says Istanbul

They misspelled "Constantinople."

23 posted on 03/18/2014 6:12:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cloudmountain

****A shame that so many Americans voted him in for a SECOND TERM. ***

But, but he gave dem a free ‘Bama phone! Some votes are easily bought for a pittance.


24 posted on 03/18/2014 6:14:33 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: JimSEA

The Turks are mad that Russia is going to cut off their supply of Ukrainian strippers and prostitutes.


25 posted on 03/18/2014 6:17:19 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: CdMGuy
Putin would make mincemeat of that Islamic idiot Erdogan.

Turkey is a member of NATO, which operates on the principle of mutual defense.

An attack on a NATO member is considered an attack on all.

26 posted on 03/18/2014 6:18:39 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot
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To: Palmetto Patriot

Just great, get sucked into war for the GD Turks.


27 posted on 03/18/2014 6:19:32 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: No One Special
Putin vs. Erdogan.

And we're supposed to pick sides???

28 posted on 03/18/2014 6:21:57 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I go with the Non-Muslim.

Next year in Constantinople.


29 posted on 03/18/2014 6:22:38 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sacajaweau

Uh-oh. An Orthodox superpower against the (recently) most Westernized Muslim nation over Constantinople? This could get ugly. Fortunately, I think Russia wants nothing to do with mistreating Tatars, given their relations in Central Europe.


30 posted on 03/18/2014 6:22:57 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dfwgator

In all honesty, we are likely to see the breakup of NATO, the EU and the UN.

Because not ONE of the countries in them will risk war with Russia/China, nor the economic hell China would bring to bear on them.

Only we under goading from RINOs like McCain and the coke fantasies of Barry are stupid enough to even consider it.


31 posted on 03/18/2014 6:25:59 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: No One Special
Erdogan has become an Islamic authoritarian, and, unsurprisingly, Obama’s best friend.

I would love to see the Russians humiliate him.

Perhaps Putin can “liberate” the Turkish Kurds and the Turkish Armenians while he's at it?

32 posted on 03/18/2014 6:26:55 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Norm Lenhart

Most of the NATO countries are being invaded by Islamo-Fascists.


33 posted on 03/18/2014 6:30:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: No One Special

So why does Turkey care about Ukraine? Are they just missing up for the EU?


34 posted on 03/18/2014 6:37:52 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: dfwgator

Which is partly why western countries won’t risk it. The muslims in these countries will see any war with Russia as the go order to launch jihad and achieve their caliphate.

Muslims will sacrifice any number of their fellows to achieve their goals. If that means Turkey, so what? they advance across the west. Net gain for Allah.

Now of course they would get crushed in many areas. But chaos is their guiding principle. And that scenario is their calling card for warfare.

All the western countries suddenly faced with terror throughout their territories will quickly abandon Geneva, Brussels and most/all UN dictates to save themselves.

Because the people will be screaming for salvation.


35 posted on 03/18/2014 6:38:53 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: No One Special
Maybe we can ask the Turks to re-open the nuclear missile sites we closed in 1962.

Of course, this time, Obama and Erdogan would aim the missiles at Israel.

36 posted on 03/18/2014 6:39:18 PM PDT by zeestephen
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Maybe we can ask the Turks to re-open the nuclear missile sites we closed in 1962.

Ahh yes, JFK forgot to mention that.

37 posted on 03/18/2014 6:40:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JimSEA
So far, Turkey is the only country willing to put their money where their mouth is. It’s a real risk but they don’t want a resurrected Russian Empire.

We can be reasonably certain that Putin is taking Erdogan's protestations far more seriously than he is taking Obama's and Kerry's.

38 posted on 03/18/2014 6:58:43 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: icwhatudo

Lots of unlikely people lined up against Hitler too.
Not supporting Putin doesn’t mean you love Obama.


39 posted on 03/18/2014 7:13:30 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Palmetto Patriot

I agree with others that doubt NATO’s resoluteness when it’s time to go to war with Russia, especially over Turkey.


40 posted on 03/18/2014 7:15:38 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: catbertz

I’m rooting for Russia against Turkey, at least we’ll get Constantinople back in the deal.


41 posted on 03/18/2014 7:18:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
It's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople,
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night.
42 posted on 03/18/2014 7:20:33 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Why did Istanbul get the bootin’
That’s no one’s business but Putin.


43 posted on 03/18/2014 7:22:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: okie01

You’re right. I think we can take it as a given that Putin takes any serious leader more seriously than Dumbass.


44 posted on 03/18/2014 7:26:14 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: No One Special

Maybe Russia will complain Turkey is violating its treaty agreement.
Oh wait, never mind...


45 posted on 03/18/2014 7:27:21 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: dfwgator

We?
Well that’s telling. How long you been Russian?


46 posted on 03/18/2014 7:31:17 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Kozak

‘WE’ as in civilized/Christian people.


47 posted on 03/18/2014 7:34:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: No One Special

I wouldn’t mind seeing Russia kick Turkey’s ass.


48 posted on 03/18/2014 7:34:49 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: caver

The Chinese are on the same page with the Ruskies as far as Muzzies go. The race for the oil fields will be “game on”. It will happen, and as the World of Islam is compressed ever Westward, Israel will be evermore so threatened. Armageddon my friends.


49 posted on 03/18/2014 8:03:07 PM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: No One Special

Might or might not hurt the Russkies. I wonder what game Erdogan is playing.


50 posted on 03/18/2014 8:28:54 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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