Skip to comments.How Toothless Is NATO Over Russia And Crimea?
Posted on 03/18/2014 9:42:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
LONDON - U.S. Vice President Joe Biden began a reassurance tour of east European allies Tuesday, promising that the current diplomatic crisis over Russia would leave NATO stronger and more unified than ever.
But some experts say the showdown over Ukraine has exposed the organization as toothless in the face of Vladimir Putins triumphant annexation of Crimea.
While Biden was in Warsaw promising to stand shoulder to shoulder with Poland, Putin was making a defiant, barnstorming speech at the Kremlin that placed new pressure on the United States to act.
Ukraine is not a member of NATO, despite many years of speculation that it is poised to join, and therefore it is not automatically protected under Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty the clause which regards any attack on one member state as an attack on all.
Thats going to make it very difficult for NATO to do anything of significance, said Andrew C. Kuchins, a senior fellow and director of the Russia and Eurasia Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank. Its more likely that any action will be taken by a coalition of the willing.
Does that mean NATO is essentially toothless? Yes, I think it does, said Kuchins.
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We and NATO are out of money.
The same Joe Biden who told people in Delaware that when you go into a 7-11 or Dunkin’ Donuts, you have to have a “slight Indian accent”?
The same Joe Biden who was chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations committee from 2001-2003, but claims to have fought as chairman to get Poland into NATO... in 1999?
Damn, we sure screwed the pooch royally in the 2012 election...
The organization has become “toothless” because the formerly primary enemy is now the primary energy supplier.
Biden off to Europe to schmooze folks? Start working on your fallout shelters, guys and gals.
Translation: "Son......you're on your own."
Similarly to how we could not look too closely at Saudi involvement in 9/11.
Well I will give Biden credit, at least he didn’t say he “lusted after the Poles”, like Jimmuh did.
“Stand up, Chuck!”
The UN never has had teeth. All the UN is is a boys club, a place for paid for appointments to party with impunity, allowing anti Americans to party on their enemies soil.
It reinforced that lack of credibility by doing much the same to Libya.
NATO is too big. Blame Bill Clinton and George W. Bush for enlarging it.
As we all know, a large organization can’t react as effectively to a crisis as a small one.
NATO should have been shut down with the end of the Cold War. As long as its seen as anti-Russian alliance, it will never be able to provide for European security.
If the US and NATO was strong, this would never have happened
Getting involved in the former Yugoslavia in the 1990s was a mistake. Full stop. I said it then and say it today.
NATO (especially the US) are a bunch of baby killers! I learned this from Obammys and Skerrys friends and voters!
Coming down from sarcastic high....The US as whole is still strong...but Leaderless. There is no one on either side.
Crimea is simply not a critical NATO strategic issue.If Russia were to actually begin a conflict with a NATO member, there would be war and Russia would lose. The next big crisis will come if and when the Ukraine applies for NATO membership. If the West agrees to take Ukraine into NATO, then there will one day be a horrible war.
Shrunken jaws already.
Well, we should expect the good Lord to humiliate us if we’ve shamefully dropped the ball.
Something worse than a mistake.It was maliciously perverse.
Who wins a feud like that one was, anyhow.
Muslims and (nominal) Christians, with grudges that went further back than Columbus’ voyage.
Sixteen of twenty of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi citizens, proving conclusively that Mossad did it.
Indeed...Just doing the bidding for our Wahabbist Saudi Masters, to provide a future base for Jihad in Europe.
And it was calculated.
~~~LONDON - U.S. Vice President Joe Biden began a reassurance tour of east European allies Tuesday, promising that the current diplomatic crisis over Russia would leave NATO stronger and more unified than ever.~~~
Well, we know the truth is the opposite of what the pathological liars Biden and his boss are, so......
Bought more ammo and more food stocks today.
This is like watching some really bad movie....and then finding out you’re living it.
A truth you speak.
I remember that line. Right after they shot his Bible.
15 of 19
Some were naturalized; others were born that way.
“NATO gave up all credibility when it invaded the sovereign nation of Serbia
and forced it to give up part of itself to narco-terrorist Muslim criminals.”
Without the approval of the UN Security Council - exit “the respect of international law”.
“It reinforced that lack of credibility by doing much the same to Libya.”
Without the approval of the UN Security Council, which only approved the montoring of a no-fly zone over Libya - exit “ the respect of international law”.
“Joe Biden began a reassurance tour of east European allies Tuesday, promising that the current diplomatic crisis over Russia would leave NATO stronger and more unified than ever.~~~
Well, we know the truth is the opposite of what the pathological liars Biden and his boss are, so......”
The last thing NATO European members want is to engage in a military showdown with Russia. So how NATO will be stronger and more unified than ever, it remains to be seen.
They’ll all be huddling under their desks together.
My worry is that Obama needs a big distraction from all sorts of things. This would certainly provide that.
“Obama needs a big distraction from all sorts of things.”
For a man who thinks “Austrian” is a language and that people in Afganistan speak Arabic, and even doesn’t know Europe is a continent, not a country, his sudden interest in a speck of the world map called Crimea, that he couldn’t locate on a map by himself, seems more than suspect.
Doesn’t he some work to do as president in his own country, than worry what’s happening somewhere 7,000 miles away from home?
LOL, yeah, most civilized nations seek not to have war. Except Russia.
Trust me. Nato would make quick work of Russian forces.
Russian conscripts are no match for the West’s professional military and technology.
Napoleon Bonaparte would disagree.
USNATO is only good at bombing from above. And with Russia this won’t work.
Once USNATO put troops on the ground, they are f...d.
See Iraq and Afghanistan.
Everyone has their Waterloo.
Napoleon's downfall was caused by the same stupidity as our Waterloos...... A stupid, impatient public driven by a media with all sorts of think tanks or intellectuals with crap for brains. Or so it appears...
It starts with..."We have to go and intervene", and then becomes. "Please make it stop" If you stop the public stupidity, you stop the Waterloos...
“Napoleon Bonaparte would disagree.”
Unfortunately, for Russia, carriages and horses are no longer used in battle.
Russia in impotent in modern battle.
The West doesn’t need to fight the weak Russians. This Putin charade will fail over time. It will implode just like the Soviet Union did.
Not to mention force structure, unless we want to see another Task Force Smith speedbump fiasco.
“It starts with...”We have to go and intervene”, and then becomes. “Please make it stop”.
We always know when it starts, but never when it will stop.
At the beginning of WWI, British and French people believed that “it will be over for Christmas” ... and it lasted four years ...
I have a fix for that.
The government should tell the people that the war could last from 5-10 years and they will be taxed to pay for it.
It should stop the speculation in the media and settle everything right down like a cold shower.
But having said that, I forgot to mention that I lived through the entire so called cold war from start to finish.
It never ended as far as I am concerned. I became hardened to it. I don’t really look forward to playing that game again and would frankly speaking, push the red button if it were left to me.
It would make the war a lot shorter..
NATO -> fix it immediately or shut it down. Major western countries are doing what France and UK did in 38/39.
Out of political leadership. Money is not a big issue here.
The question to be asked is does NATO have any business in the Ukraine?
I think not. If Ukraine becomes part of the EU, that would be different.
They can take Estonia (and they will if “western” leaders go on with their impotence) within 24h, NATO will not even release a press statement before it's all over and then goes “but we shouldn't start WW3 over that” crowd fueled up by FSB agents. There are no plans to defend Baltic states in case of invasion, not even plans. Fix it immediately or shut it down.
Jim, the sad but honest response is: “What’s a NATO?”
How high is up?
One Saudi on the hijack crew was stopped and taken into custody upon his entry into the US. He was, none the less, a full participant in the Saudi conspiracy.