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Missing MH370: Aircraft Can Still Be Found
Malaysia Star ^ | Wednesday March 19, 2014

Posted on 03/18/2014 10:48:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway

A report by a United Nations-backed watchdog has given fresh hope that the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 could still be found intact while reports from a far-flung atoll in the Indian Ocean – Kudahuvadhoo – suggest it could be near there.

Austria-based Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organi­sation (CTBTO), which has extremely sensitive sensors throughout the world, says it did not detect any explosion or crash – both on land or at sea – since the aircraft disappeared on March 8.

CTBTO executive secretary Lassina Zarbo said plane accidents could be detected with three of the four technologies used by the organisation’s International Monitoring System.

“Our data could potentially shed light on the whereabouts of flight MH370. We owe it to the anxious families waiting for news of their loved ones that this potential is used to its fullest,” he said on the CTBTO website.

While the system was put in place primarily to detect nuclear explosions, it can also detect the explosion of a large aircraft as well as its impact on the ground or on water.

CTBTO stations have detected some plane accidents in the past, including the crash of an aircraft at Narita airport in Japan in March 2009.

If the CTBTO information is correct, it raises questions over where the plane is now. Investigators have not ruled out that the plane could have crashed in the Indian Ocean but they are also looking at possible sites where it could have landed.

In the southern corridor, several islands have been identified for scrutiny.

These include Male in the Maldives, the Diego Garcia United States air base, an airport in Sri Lanka – all of which have reportedly been downloaded into the aircraft simulator in the house of the plane’s pilot Capt Zaharie Ahmad Shah.

Others include the Christmas Islands and the Cocos Keeling Islands, also in the Indian Ocean.

Residents of the remote Maldives island of Kudahuvadhoo in Dhaal Atoll have reported seeing a “low flying plane” on the morning the plane disappeared. Diego Garcia is just south of the atoll.

Several residents of Kudahuvadhoo told a local news portal that they saw a “low flying jumbo jet” at around 6.15am on March 8.

They said that it was a white aircraft, with red stripes across it – which is what Malaysia Airlines planes typically look like.

Eyewitnesses from the Kudahuvadhoo concurred that the aeroplane was travelling North to South-East, towards the southern tip of the Maldives – Addu. They also noted the incredibly loud noise that the flight made when it flew over the island.

“I’ve never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We’ve seen seaplanes, but I’m sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly,” said an eyewitness.

Mohamed Zaheem, the Island Councillor of Kudahuvadhoo, told the portal that the residents of the island had spoken about the incident.

The Times of UK also quoted the manager of the Blue Leaf Guesthouse on the atoll as seeing a large plane flying very low over the island.

Speaking from a fishing boat, he too said the plane had blue and white markings.

Satellite data suggests that the last “ping” was received from the flight somewhere close to the Maldives and Diego Garcia.

There is also speculation that if the plane, that was last detected at 2.15am off Phuket, had headed north, it could have “hidden” itself near Singapore Airlines flight SQ68, also a Boeing 777-200, thus tricking ground radar controllers as it flew past Laos, Myanmar, China and India.

It could have then disengaged itself and landed in any of several airports in the area including in Turkmenistan, Kyrgystan, Nepal or, ominously, in Urumqi which is the capital of the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region in China.

The Uighurs are rebelling against China and, soon after the missing plane, there was a letter circulated which seemed to claim that it had indeed been seized by the Uighurs.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; malaysia; mh370; mp370; waronterror

1 posted on 03/18/2014 10:48:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Oh they know where it is.


2 posted on 03/18/2014 10:49:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

My guess
Check out who owns it and when its used

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gan_International_Airport


3 posted on 03/18/2014 10:50:02 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: nickcarraway
it could have “hidden” itself . . . . It could have then disengaged itself and landed . . .

Wow, this plane really has a mind of its own.

4 posted on 03/18/2014 10:54:10 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: nickcarraway

Loud noise means engines were running-— it still had fuel.


5 posted on 03/18/2014 10:54:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: nickcarraway

One day a hunter will find it.

Or a fisherman with his net.


6 posted on 03/18/2014 10:55:48 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: LucyT; WildHighlander57; crosslink; maggief

Since Will and Kate are vacationing close by maybe The prince will jump into his helicopter and find it


7 posted on 03/18/2014 10:57:06 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: dfwgator

“suggest it could be near there”

For an airplane, “near there” is not good enough at all......


8 posted on 03/18/2014 10:58:02 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: nickcarraway
What may have happened...
9 posted on 03/18/2014 11:04:04 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: nickcarraway

What would a terrorist do with a jet plane? Enter US or Isreli airspace, unnanounced, only to be shot down? I think it would be quite a different scenario. They would loudly announce themselves, claim that they were abducted and held by the US military at Diego Garcia and the pilot was killed, then request to land somewhere populated, claiming they were out of fuel. It would be the co-pilot in his best frantic voice.

It’s a lose lose. Shoot it down, and potenially kill hundreds of Chinese citizens (who are already dead) Don’t shoot it down, and it turns out to be rigged with explosives. Either way tensions with China would rise, and incite them to save face, perhaps by taking Tawain or some Japanese islands that they’ve long had designs on.

If the Uighers (sp) had anything to do with this, the scenario would have the same effect, driving a wedge between the US and China, and potentially starting some hot action between the two that would also inspire this small group to coordinate attacks inside China while she was dealing with an outraged populace.


10 posted on 03/18/2014 11:07:06 PM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: Uncle Chip; don-o; All

Hadn’t heard this before. Any one else?
...”Ulghurs are rebelling against China and, soon after the missing plane, there was a letter circulated which seemed to claim that it had indeed been seized by the Uighurs.”


11 posted on 03/18/2014 11:09:09 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

China don’t play that PC s—t, if they Uighurs did it, China will wipe them out.


12 posted on 03/18/2014 11:12:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

i think you all will find out it is known to have landed in Pakistan. This is also why Israel is on such high alert recently. Trust me.


13 posted on 03/18/2014 11:13:12 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet

If anyone knows where the plane is, it’s Israel, you can bank on that.


14 posted on 03/18/2014 11:14:25 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

A general on Fox said it’s in Pakistan - said he has been talking to people and can’t say exactly what he was told - but that we know it isn’t at the bottom of the ocean.

He’s a dead serious guy.


15 posted on 03/18/2014 11:15:25 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: nickcarraway
There is also speculation that if the plane, that was last detected at 2.15am off Phuket, had headed north, it could have “hidden” itself near Singapore Airlines flight SQ68, also a Boeing 777-200, thus tricking ground radar controllers as it flew past Laos, Myanmar, China and India.

Ah, the tailgating scenario! Making like MH370 is taking on fuel from SQ68! One transponder response, one (slightly brighter) blip!

Sweet idea, but probably not necessary. And too nerve-wracking, anyway. Wog ground radar operators being grossly overestimated, if they were even on the job.

16 posted on 03/18/2014 11:17:02 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: nickcarraway

Did anybody else hear the former general on Hannity tonight? he said it’s in Pakistan and we should know something in 24-48 hours.


17 posted on 03/18/2014 11:21:33 PM PDT by balch3
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To: nickcarraway
Adding to the mystery, CNN (and FOX) reporting tonight:

"The official, who has been briefed on the investigation, said the programmed change in direction was entered at least 12 minutes before the plane's co-pilot signed off to air traffic controllers, telling them, "All right, good night."

Shortly thereafter the other systems were shut down.

Here

18 posted on 03/18/2014 11:21:33 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: Tired of Taxes

Maybe there was a gun on board that forced the plane to do its bidding.


19 posted on 03/18/2014 11:37:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: balch3

He said the same thing about the 24-48 hours last Tuesday on FOX and friends


20 posted on 03/18/2014 11:48:02 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: dfwgator
If anyone knows where the plane is, it’s Israel, you can bank on that.

Sounds likely. There was a report on the news a couple nights ago. That if terrorists were to fly a bomb-laden plane like that towards Israel, they would overfly Muslim nations and Israel could not attempt shooting it down until it was a few minutes from striking Israeli cities like Tel Aviv. Imagine only having a window of two to five minutes to shoot it down. You can bet Israel wants to know where the plane is, and from what direction it is coming from, and how terrorists will utilize it.

21 posted on 03/18/2014 11:49:07 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

They’re hanging out near here

http://www.shangri-la.com/mobile/male/villingiliresort/

Until ......


22 posted on 03/19/2014 12:02:45 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: LucyT

Last paragraph article


23 posted on 03/19/2014 12:20:09 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: nickcarraway
the Diego Garcia United States air base

I'm sure the 777 landed at DG and the base hasn't noticed yet. /sarc

OTOH, I'm positive that intelligence and in particular the NRO knew within a few seconds or minutes if the aircraft landed in a controlled manner or crashed on land. But I'm not so sure they could detect a fairly clean nose-in plunge into deep water, unless they were already monitoring the flight progress and it suddenly disappeared. Debris would float to the surface but most would be miniscule.

24 posted on 03/19/2014 12:21:24 AM PDT by steve86 (to the nearest on-shore cell tower or repeater).)
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To: hoosiermama

yes, hoosiermama. responsibility was claimed by a group within 48 hours but those claims were initially dismissed:

http://nypost.com/2014/03/10/chinese-group-claims-plane-disappearance-amid-parallels-to-lockerbie/

the Malays say that a 35yo Uigher was on the plane. He has variously been identified as 1) a flight engineer; 2) a person who had taken flight training; 3) a professor; and 4) a person traveling with the Chinese calligraphy team.

http://www.news.com.au/national/uighur-separatists-claim-over-missing-flight-mh370-may-be-reexamined/story-fncynjr2-1226855911080

The Uigher man identified as a professor has self-identified himself to authorities, and upon a closer look, seems to be a case of the wrong person with a matching name to that of the 35yo Uigher that was on the plane.

The name of the missing Uigher person is A. Maimaitijiang

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/uighur-professor-i-was-not-the-one-on-mh370


25 posted on 03/19/2014 12:31:02 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: steve86
I'm not so sure they could detect a fairly clean nose-in plunge into deep water

I take that back. It could/would be detected acoustically by undersea sensors.

26 posted on 03/19/2014 12:34:36 AM PDT by steve86 (to the nearest on-shore cell tower or repeater).)
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To: blueplum

Do we know the national origin of the co-pilot?


27 posted on 03/19/2014 12:38:51 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: steve86

Read my link for Gans early in the thead. Runway is seasonally used for a resort spa. Good prices between February and April ;-)


28 posted on 03/19/2014 12:41:55 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

upper middle class Malay, son of a government employee.

http://news.yahoo.com/missing-flights-co-pilot-religious-not-reckless-family-122704495—sector.html

CNN, coincidentally, did a film interview of him just a month prior to the hijacking and found him “charming.”

http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/03/18/fariq-hamid-pilot


29 posted on 03/19/2014 12:51:56 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum; LucyT; maggief; WildHighlander57; crosslink

Thanks blue
Check out the interview with the co pilot! Ya all!


30 posted on 03/19/2014 4:15:38 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: GOP Poet

Gen McInerney agrees.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3134760/posts


31 posted on 03/19/2014 5:14:02 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: hoosiermama

Situation calls for immediate unannounced review of Gan’s aviation fuel inventories (same at all other potential way-stations). But by whom?


32 posted on 03/19/2014 5:41:52 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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Male in the Maldives, the Diego Garcia United States air base, an airport in Sri Lanka – all of which have reportedly been downloaded into the aircraft simulator in the house of the plane’s pilot Capt Zaharie Ahmad Shah. Others include the Christmas Islands and the Cocos Keeling Islands, also in the Indian Ocean.

Christmas Islands and the Cocos Keeling Islands are along the southern part of the Holy Arc.

33 posted on 03/19/2014 6:39:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: TigersEye

LOL.


34 posted on 03/19/2014 7:05:50 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Aria

I am of the opinion that McInerny is probably right. They know where that plane is they are just not sharing. This search is starting to resemble a 3 stooges movie.


35 posted on 03/19/2014 8:09:50 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: nickcarraway

Malaysia Airlines is state owned and run.

Expect incompetence and expect the media to overlook it.

Remember the Chilean miners? Did the media criticize the mine? No, it was state owned and the media (socialist) does not criticize government as a matter of coarse...so the hoopla became about the rescue. Hooray, for the rescue! But...if say the Koch Brothers owned that mine...look out, the media would call for them to be executed on day two.


36 posted on 03/19/2014 10:22:59 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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