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Retired USAF general says Malaysia 370 may have landed in Pakistan
American Thinker ^ | 3-19-2014 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 03/19/2014 4:35:16 AM PDT by servo1969

Lt. General Thomas McInerney USAF (ret) is a man to be reckoned with, and he has gone out on a limb citing sources he cannot reveal for his assertion that Malaysia Airlines 370 was taken by a criminal act, that the United States government knows more than it is revealing, and that the airplane could well be on the ground on Pakistan.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 370; 777; boeing; hannity; lignet; malaysia; malaysiaair; mcinerney; mh370; missingplane; pakistan; planehijack; thomasmcinerney; usaf

1 posted on 03/19/2014 4:35:16 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

When it involves regimes like Iran and Pakistan, I have no doubt that the US will treat very lightly, even help with the cover-up. Because if the truth ever came out, it would be a clear act of war and we’d have to actually do something.


2 posted on 03/19/2014 4:40:42 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: servo1969

Watched the segment — it wasn’t conjecture. He was confident the aircraft is in Pakistan. [Let’s see, wasn’t it the lying, dirtbag Paks who sheltered Bin Laden for 10 years?]


3 posted on 03/19/2014 4:52:44 AM PDT by twister881
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To: servo1969

I am skeptical of any theory involving an Asia overland route, too many radars and people that would have spotted it.

My goofy conpsiracy theory is pilot went west over Andaman islands, turned south at Maldvies and ditched plane off Annu atoll where he is rescued and flew onward from Gan airport.

Motive: some government wanted the 20 passengers working on electronic warfare/radar defense dead.


4 posted on 03/19/2014 4:54:59 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: rbg81
I would expect that we have pretty much constant satellite coverage of Pakistan given the unstable nature and nuclear capability it has. Hard to think we would miss a 777 landing there and by now would have vetted all incoming flights. I think I'll wait until there is hard evidence before believing this or any other theory. I don't think China would be very happy with Pakistan should this be what happened. Would the Paks risk that? I doubt it. Would some terrorist group in Pakistan? Sure, but without the Pakistan government knowing. Very slim chance.
5 posted on 03/19/2014 4:56:21 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: rbg81

I would expect that we have pretty much constant satelite coverage of Pakistan given the unstable nature and nuclear capability it has. Hard to think we would miss a 777 landing there and by now would have vetted all incoming flights. I think I’ll wait until there is hard evidence before believing this or any other theory. I don’t think China would be very happy with Pakistan should this be what happened. Would the Paks risk that? I doubt it. Would some terroist group in Pakistan? Sure, but without the Pakistan government knowing. Very slim chance.


6 posted on 03/19/2014 4:56:57 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: dblshot

Sorry about the double post guys.


7 posted on 03/19/2014 4:57:41 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: dblshot

The Pak government has at least a plurality of AQ sympathizer types, that is why OBL hid there for so long.


8 posted on 03/19/2014 5:01:26 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: rbg81

-——a clear act of war——

The act of war would not involve America however. The pirated craft would be lost by Malaysia. It would be up to Kuala Lumpur to initiate the retaliation.

Pakistan is SEATO nation, Malaysia is not. America is actually on the side of Pakistan, not Maylasia


9 posted on 03/19/2014 5:07:15 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: SecondAmendment

“The Pak government has at least a plurality of AQ sympathizer types ...”

And a whole lot of them are in the ISI - Pak Security Service. Easy to see how the ISI would be able to silence any radar reports about the plane, if the op were either Pak or Iranian.


10 posted on 03/19/2014 5:14:57 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: servo1969

He stated that within 24 ~ 48 hrs there would be some sort of announcement saying such.

This has always been the most plausible explanation to me.

If the plane had exploded in mid air, satellites would have seen it. If a plane that large had crashed in the ocean a multitude of stuff that does not sink would have been spotted with all the eyes in that area.

I would be disappointed with our current administration if they were to be honest with the public.


11 posted on 03/19/2014 5:15:43 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Christian, Freeper, Tea Party Member, Bitter Clinger, Creepy White Cracker)
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To: servo1969
Hmmmm.

Technically speaking, if there was enough fuel on board to get to ________ then the plane may have landed in _______.

The question becomes, how do you hide a 777 from public observation and from satellite view? You need a hangar, a very large hangar, and you need total control of the airfield. You also need a suitably long runway and taxiways/tarmac that is thick enough to support a 777’s weight.

If that plane landed somewhere, then a government is involved. The only governments that I can imagine going down that path are NK and Iran. Given the number of Chinese nationals onboard, I can't imagine either one doing it to get the airplane, as using the airplane later would bring all hell down on them from the West and the East.

So what gain would there be in taking the people/cargo on the plane?

12 posted on 03/19/2014 5:15:49 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: bert
The act of war would not involve America however.

Any country with national on board could consider it an act of war. Consider the Lusitania.

13 posted on 03/19/2014 5:18:33 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: CodeJockey
If the plane had exploded in mid air, satellites would have seen it. If a plane that large had crashed in the ocean a multitude of stuff that does not sink would have been spotted with all the eyes in that area.

If it successfully ditched, it would just sink without a trace. But then you'd have to assume that all of the passengers were already dead.

14 posted on 03/19/2014 5:20:29 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: servo1969

Since day 1 I’ve had a hard time believing the US doesn’t know what happened to this plane.


15 posted on 03/19/2014 5:20:49 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: servo1969

How does he explain the 7 hours of engine pings???


16 posted on 03/19/2014 5:26:23 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Mount Athos
Those 20 Freescape employees were my original theory too.

Then I was dissuaded here by freepers who knew the field.

I do think the plane made it to either Somalia, Pakistan or Iran.

17 posted on 03/19/2014 5:30:58 AM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: servo1969

“May” have landed in Pakistan? So in other words his sources don’t know anything for sure either.


18 posted on 03/19/2014 5:32:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: rbg81
When it involves regimes like Iran and Pakistan, I have no doubt that the US will treat very lightly, even help with the cover-up. Because if the truth ever came out, it would be a clear act of war and we’d have to actually do something.

It wasn't our plane. About 99% of the people weren't from the U.S. Why would we have to do something?

19 posted on 03/19/2014 5:40:07 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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File:MH370 last ping corridors.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MH370_last_ping_corridors.jpg

This is the Last Ping Corridor and it is nowhere near Pakistan.

Is the General telling us that he does not believe in the Last Ping???


20 posted on 03/19/2014 5:48:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: rbg81

Now all they have to do is repaint the plane to look like Air Force One, plant a nuke it it, and recredential its electronic signatures then have it ly into DC and detonate. This will be there way of repaying the billions that 0bummer has been sending them. 0 needs to learn:

1. Terrorists are like dogs: they don’t respect anyone who bows before them, kisses their hand, or appeases them with blackmail money

2. When you send blackmail money to terrorists they will just use it to buy weaponry and fund spies to defeat you

3. All terrorists are liars; you cannot negotiate with them


21 posted on 03/19/2014 5:48:56 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: servo1969

His theory, as well as 99.999% of ours, won’t buy a cup of coffee.


22 posted on 03/19/2014 6:16:29 AM PDT by bgill
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To: servo1969
God help me, I cannot help but imagine the worst about this administration. Convinced this administration is aware of a lot more detail than they have revealed, it begins to smell of complicit involvement.

Considering Samantha Powers expressed desire to invade Israel, this administration's clear move away from support for Israel's independence in conjunction with it's full throttled support for the Muslim Brotherhood, this administration's silence is the proverbial wink and a nod for what is potentially in store for the enemies of Islam.

23 posted on 03/19/2014 6:23:22 AM PDT by wtd
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To: servo1969

I dunno. I agree with other Posters here that if it flew over a Sovereign country in Asia, it would have been seen and treated as hostile (No transponder or radio contact).

Once landed safely at an airport with the capacity for it (Meaning on its wheels with all the parts still on the plane), it is not something that is easily hidden. It would also be outta gas, needing about 5 full tanker trucks (40,000 gallons) to refill. The logistics are a pretty big challenge for any organization outside of a Government.

I just can’t overcome the obvious shortcomings of this theory.


24 posted on 03/19/2014 6:35:48 AM PDT by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: servo1969

We smashed Iraq and Iran was the benefactor -a potential threat was hobbled and they gained great influence over affairs in Iraq.

Pakistan is majority Sunni and the have nukes, this is the greatest threat to Iran’s hegemony. If Iran’s Revolutionary Guard wanted us to do to Pakistan what we did to Iraq they might lend support to a plot that implicates Pakistan.

Don’t under estimate the zealotry of Shiism, which is well at work in Syria.

Otherwise, I don’t think Iran would risk being implicated in a plot against a plane where the majority of the passengers are Chinese. No way, China is too loyal and ally to Iran.


25 posted on 03/19/2014 6:45:16 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: servo1969

If true, one must wonder why terrorists need a Malaysian Airlines 777 when Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has its own fleet. Perhaps PIA’s flight crews couldn’t be bought?


26 posted on 03/19/2014 7:31:11 AM PDT by railroader
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To: bgill

“His theory, as well as 99.999% of ours, won’t buy a cup of coffee.”

Mine did. Got a cup yesterday just for a discussion.


27 posted on 03/19/2014 7:46:19 AM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: servo1969

I think they know exactly where that plane is. Mr. GG2 is speculating its sitting on Diego Garcia to be used as the next false flag here. I hate to say I can’t even argue with him about it. I put nothing past the US govt.


28 posted on 03/19/2014 7:53:23 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: miliantnutcase

Since day 1 I’ve had a hard time believing the US doesn’t know what happened to this plane.

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Typical baseless opinion from some un-informed ret general. I don’t give a damn about the airplane...If the govt knows the status of the passengers and is withholding information from the families....think about it.


29 posted on 03/19/2014 8:03:06 AM PDT by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: AFret.

If I remember correctly I believe the General claimed he had sources within the military that had confirmed such. Now the General could be lying.


30 posted on 03/19/2014 8:15:22 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Christian, Freeper, Tea Party Member, Bitter Clinger, Creepy White Cracker)
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To: CodeJockey

If I remember correctly I believe the General claimed he had sources within the military that had confirmed such. Now the General could be lying.

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“Sources within the military”...BS...what authority could sequester 239 innocent passengers for how many days now? The airplane is sovereign property of Malaysia..are we hijackers now?..again, think about it.


31 posted on 03/19/2014 9:06:41 AM PDT by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: AFret.

With Benghazi Barry, anything is possible.


32 posted on 03/19/2014 9:16:21 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: servo1969

Heard a comment last evening on one of the cable news that Indoneasia is refusing overflights of their country. If you look at the famous Inmarsta morning detection arcs, Jakarta airport is smack under the southern arc. Why would they refuse?

As I understand, the aircraft doesn’t have to be flying to make the “handshake”, only electronically operational (i.e., powered on).

If true, this would be sitting right under the noses of the Malaysians. Jakarta is only a 2 hour flight from Kuala Lampur and has scheduled Malaysian Air flights.


33 posted on 03/19/2014 9:58:05 AM PDT by Bobby_Taxpayer
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To: MarMema

I just can’t believe it cut straight over india.

Guess it’s still possible:

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=kul-ixz-gan-khi


34 posted on 03/19/2014 1:22:38 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: All

Former F.B.I. Special agent James Kalstrom just stated on Fox news that he believes General Mcinerney is correct about the plane being hijacked and landing in a foreign country. He also stated that he feels U.S. govt. would not be talking about any intelligence they have discovered as to the exact location of the plane.


35 posted on 03/19/2014 6:47:48 PM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prologue")
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To: Uncle Chip

Is the General telling us that he does not believe in the Last Ping???


Fair point but I often wonder if these “reports” are true.


36 posted on 03/19/2014 7:03:13 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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