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States looking at $0 community college tuition
AP via finance.yahoo.com ^ | March 18, 2014 | STEVEN DUBOIS

Posted on 03/19/2014 6:53:11 AM PDT by posterchild

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Nothing sparks consumer demand like the word "free," and politicians in some states have proposed the idea of providing that incentive to get young people to attend community college.

Amid worries that U.S. youth are losing a global skills race, supporters of a no-tuition policy see expanding access to community college as way to boost educational attainment so the emerging workforces in their states look good to employers.

Of course, such plans aren't free for taxpayers, and legislators in Oregon and Tennessee are deciding whether free tuition regardless of family income is the best use of public money. A Mississippi bill passed the state House, but then failed in the Senate.

The debate comes in a midterm election year in which income inequality and the burdens of student debt are likely going to be significant issues.

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To: posterchild

This is free in Denmark, and in fact I think you get a stipend for going full time. We had a young woman from Denmark staying with us. She said it resulted in a lot of young people being slackers. As for herself, she was an immigrant to Denmark and her family was all about moving up, so she worked hard. But for many, this was just a way to prolong adolescence, essentially.


21 posted on 03/19/2014 7:10:08 AM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Add pot to the mix in Colorado and Washington and you’ve got real delusions....


22 posted on 03/19/2014 7:11:35 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: posterchild

Oh crude. Just what I need. More kids who don’t have the ability to be in college, in college.

Every semester, the same thing.


23 posted on 03/19/2014 7:13:31 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty
I work at a Major CC, they are a valualbe resource for education BUT the best bang for the buck is on the Occupational Education side not the Lib.Arts side of the house.

To a great extent CC’s also end up teaching the last 2 years of High school AGAIN to those students that WANT to learn it ad were denied a quality HS education by our failing public schools.

24 posted on 03/19/2014 7:20:38 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: posterchild
Missouri has the A+ program which will pay 2 years of tuition at a Juco or tech school. One result has been a big increase in per credit hour cost since the state is paying and not the student. Below are the requirements; not sure most states would insist on #1.

• Be a U.S. citizen, permanent resident, or lawfully present in the U.S.
• Attend a designated A+ high school for 3 consecutive years immediately prior to graduation.1
• Graduate with an overall grade point average of 2.5 or higher on a 4.0 scale.
• Have at least a 95% attendance record overall for grades 9-12.
• Perform at least 50 hours of unpaid tutoring or mentoring, of which up to 25% may include job shadowing.
• Maintain a record of good citizenship and avoid the unlawful use of drugs and/or alcohol.
• Beginning with the high school senior class of 2015, have achieved a score of proficient or advanced on the Algebra I end of course exam or a higher level DESE approved end-of-course exam in the field of mathematics.
• Not be pursuing a degree or certificate in theology or divinity.

25 posted on 03/19/2014 7:31:39 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: dangerdoc
In some ways, community colleges are an extension of public school. Just check out the number of 'developmental' courses community colleges offer: math, reading, and writing. One would think that after 12 years of public education, students would be able to perform the basic competencies as outlined in any given state's public education guidelines. The graduates possess diplomas that are supposed to prove academic achievement. Two dirty little secrets: 1) Not everyone should go to college, and 2) Public schools are not doing their jobs.

And now for a bit of blog pimping:

Those Doggone Kids

26 posted on 03/19/2014 7:32:00 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: posterchild

My high-school Civics and History teacher (a man to the far right, long before it was fashionable) floated the theory in class that free public high school was nothing but a scam pushed by labor unions to hold of new young competition entering the work force.

Sounds like they are taking things up a notch.


27 posted on 03/19/2014 7:35:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: posterchild

Sure.
A recipe for a complete and total failure.
Tax-paid tuition plus non-competitive entrance requirements. Let anyone at all in, compliments of the taxpayers.

Change it so the requirements are very competitive and demanding, as in the rest of the civilized world, and it just might work. (no affirmative action!)


28 posted on 03/19/2014 7:46:42 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Make it zero tuition for those with A averages, 20% for B average, 50% for C average, etc. Use the high school GPA for incoming freshmen, and calculate it semester by semester after that.

I read you, but you know and I know that the grading system will then be bastardized so everybody gets A's, with a smiley face.

29 posted on 03/19/2014 8:26:02 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: VRW Conspirator

And lawsuits galore for those who don’t get A’s.


30 posted on 03/19/2014 8:26:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: VRW Conspirator

Aaaand, it would impact teacher bennies, since “the kids” would be less inclined to attend, so that would immediately be struck down. It is never about “the kids”, but always about paying the teacher bennies.


31 posted on 03/19/2014 8:46:35 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: headstamp 2

We are already there. I have worked in a community college library for the last 20 yrs. The garbage that passes for public education is on full display by they time the students make it to the community college level.

I have over the years come across various “research papers” that students have either left on tables or on computers. The downward spiral in the quality of these “research papers” is stupefying! I have had English instructors come in at their wits end having to try and teach their students basic grammar, much less how to write a research paper.

Our developmental classes grow larger and larger each year. If the states and the feds give free community college for every person the costs will be off to the moon, as in academia they have no concept of money management or budgeting only how to spend it and if the budget comes up short, why just raise tuition again and again and again...


32 posted on 03/19/2014 11:40:02 AM PDT by sarge83
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Likely worth every cent too.....


33 posted on 03/19/2014 2:37:14 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

My HS physics teacher had a similar position.


34 posted on 03/19/2014 6:51:41 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: posterchild

It will be worth about what they pay too


35 posted on 03/19/2014 6:55:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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