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Why Are Asian Americans Democrats?
Politico Magazine ^ | 03/19/2014 | y ALEXANDER KUO, NEIL MALHOTRA and CECILIA HYUNJUNG MO

Posted on 03/19/2014 8:20:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

n February, during the confirmation hearings for President Barack Obama’s nominee for U.S. surgeon general—Vivek Murthy, a British-born Indian American—Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) invited Murthy to his home state.

“I’m going to invite you, because we have a lovely doctor from India,” Roberts said good-naturedly. “She’s in her mid-30s and she’s highly respected by the community. And another doctor from India who did a carpal tunnel when I did a stupid thing. And so, I think you’d be right at home, and we would welcome you.”

Although Roberts probably did not intend to offend (his remarks were of the “I have plenty of friends who are Indian” variety) media outlets generally mocked the interaction. At the very least, it likely reminded Murthy that he is different than the white ethnic majority—some other kind of American.

However harmless it might seem, this is exactly the sort of exchange that makes Asian Americans—the fastest growing ethnic group in the country—more likely to identify themselves as Democrats than Republicans, and by stunning margins. In the 2012 presidential election, Barack Obama won 73 percent of the Asian American vote, exceeding his support among Hispanics (71 percent) and women (55 percent). This striking statistic has caused a great deal of consternation among Republicans, who seem generally mystified as to what they might be doing wrong. It’s a puzzle with huge electoral ramifications. More than 16 million Asian Americans live in the United States today, making up 5 percent of the population and accounting for nearly 4 percent of all voters. They’re a sizeable voting bloc, but one far less understood than other groups, given that their political clout has only begun to emerge.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asian; asianamericans; democrats
NOTE:

* In 1992, Bill Clinton captured just 36 percent of the Asian American vote.

* According to the 2009 Current Population Survey, the median Asian household had a higher income, $65,469, than the median white household,$51,863.

* Other conservatives have pointed to less tangible characteristics of Asian Americans, such as an emphasis on discipline in child rearing and a penchant for entrepreneurship, that ought to make them Republicans

1 posted on 03/19/2014 8:20:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The mental illness that is liberalism knows no races or borders.


2 posted on 03/19/2014 8:23:32 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: SeekAndFind

They are no less gullible than any other race.................


3 posted on 03/19/2014 8:24:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: SeekAndFind

Great hardware, and easily programmable software.


4 posted on 03/19/2014 8:25:14 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: SeekAndFind

BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOESN’T MAKE IT’S CASE.


5 posted on 03/19/2014 8:26:10 AM PDT by struggle
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To: KoRn

2 years ago, my sis in law finally became an American citizen and the oath-taking was at a convention center. Right outside was the Dumocrap and GOP tables. The Dums had a “multicultural” table and the GOp had an all-white table for registering voters. Who did you think had the most visitors?


6 posted on 03/19/2014 8:27:25 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: SeekAndFind

Most minority constituents enjoy being placated and lied to hence the Democrat voter mentality.

Speaking the truth hurts too many feelings.


7 posted on 03/19/2014 8:27:40 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: SeekAndFind

To me, the real mystery is why Jewish Americans are, for the most part, Democrats.


8 posted on 03/19/2014 8:28:04 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What’s the breakdown between Asians living in rural areas and those that live in urban areas? I bet most live in urban areas, and like most of any background who do tend to vote more liberal.

Freegards


9 posted on 03/19/2014 8:30:16 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: max americana

“2 years ago, my sis in law finally became an American citizen and the oath-taking was at a convention center. Right outside was the Dumocrap and GOP tables. The Dums had a “multicultural” table and the GOp had an all-white table for registering voters. Who did you think had the most visitors?”

The GOP are dinosaurs when it come to things like this.


10 posted on 03/19/2014 8:30:57 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Socialism and collectivism is in the upbringing, socialization and education of many immigrants - whether Latin America or Asia.

I know many Chinese - and while they all agree that Mao’s era was madness, they still believe that somehow in the hands of better, more educated, stable technocrats, top-down collectivism still is good and necessary. They have no concept of limited government, no concept of Federalism, and no idea what
“subsidiarity” means. To them that means “chaos” - when in fact, the opposite is true.

The present debt fueled, social engineering US Government fits their ideal quite well.


11 posted on 03/19/2014 8:32:56 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

1. Asian culture makes them predisposed toward socialism and corruption which the Democrat Party has in spades.

2. The Republican Party is perceived as the party of White men with guns.


12 posted on 03/19/2014 8:34:20 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That can be said about the majority of ethnics that vote Democrat.

Harry J Enten: On polling and politics

Why Jewish Americans vote Democratic

A striking aspect of the new Pew survey on Jewish Americans is how liberal Jews are. Is it good for the Democrats? You bet

US Jews are very liberal: 49% of Jewish adults identify as liberal, compared with just 19% who say they are conservative. That’s nearly a mirror-opposite of the general public, of whom 38% say they are conservative and 21% say they are liberal. That finding holds for age groups, albeit that Jews become less liberal as you look at the spectrum from Reform towards Orthodox.

The reason American Jews are liberal is because they tend to sympathize with the less fortunate and with minorities: like many black and Hispanic Americans, 54% of Jews believe government should be bigger, with more services, compared to just 40% of the public at large who believe the same. And 82% of Jews think that homosexuality should be accepted by society, while just 57% of the general public believes so

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/02/jewish-americans-vote-democratic


13 posted on 03/19/2014 8:36:01 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: headstamp 2

They’re idiots. At least hire a non-white temp to handle the frontline communications. Image is everything. And they wonder why they lose elections that can be won if handled properly..


14 posted on 03/19/2014 8:36:12 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: struggle
"BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOESN’T MAKE IT’S CASE."

Just what might that case be outside of ending healthcare? War in Crimea? Continue exporting jobs? Cutting social security? Bombing Iran? Tax deals for the 99%? Getting government involved in social issues? Add the ones I missed, please.

15 posted on 03/19/2014 8:37:44 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: SeekAndFind

because Asians come from societies where the individual is nothing, but society and the collective, is exalted. The family has insane power over the individual.
But the aspirations of the individual is nothing.

Like Mexicans, they love being lesser than society and have no model where they controlled the government and had rights like we used to. We struggle to regain it, they’ve never had it.


16 posted on 03/19/2014 8:38:53 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: PGR88

I like your answer best.


17 posted on 03/19/2014 8:40:14 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: DJ Taylor

And Catholics too


18 posted on 03/19/2014 8:41:28 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My wife is Republican and prefers to have her race stated as oriental, since Asian has become to mean Indian or Pakistani.


19 posted on 03/19/2014 8:49:23 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most Asians come from socialist/communist countries, it’s no mystery why they vote demoncrap.


20 posted on 03/19/2014 8:49:39 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: SeekAndFind
I think the reason is simple, at least for East Asians: their heritage is Confucian, while the European heritage is Aristotelian.

The concept of individualism in political theory goes back to Aristotle and his ethics of individual character, and the Founders bought into Aristotle, and his "student" John Locke, both of whom greatly influenced the concepts in the Declaration and the Constitution.

While Confucius also supported individuals working on their own character (仁, ren), however, societal harmony under a political hierarchy is at the core of Confucian organization. The Three Bonds of Confucianism--emperor over ministers, father over sons, husband over wife--are much more like Plato's Republic: if you are a citizen, you do what you are told, and the government acts in your own best interests. We see this most evidently in Singapore, but it's also behind the attitude towards government in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Viet Nam, and is re-emerging in China, as Confucian thinking is restored in place of Maoist thinking.

Moreover, India is the DMZ between Aristotle and Confucius: India(n)s are in general more individualistic than East Asians, but their trust, or desire to trust, in government is greater than that which was taught by Aristotle.

In short, to bring ethnic Asians into the political-conservative arena in the US will require a retraining in political theory, to show that Democrats provide a fake Confucian style government at best, and a pseudo-Maoist government at worst.

21 posted on 03/19/2014 8:50:33 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: SeekAndFind
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Because they are very, very confused.

22 posted on 03/19/2014 8:51:01 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: DJ Taylor
To me, the real mystery is why Jewish Americans are, for the most part, Democrats.

It's very simple: Jews and Asians mostly live in cities. Cities vote Democrat, rural areas vote Republican, suburbs are a mixed bag. Cities are communes where most everything is shared and little property is personally owned. As farm automation continues, young Americans needing jobs are forced into the communes where most of them eventually become communists.

23 posted on 03/19/2014 8:53:02 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

A lot of younger Asians are really into pop culture. It’s cool to be a Dem so they follow the herd.


24 posted on 03/19/2014 8:57:05 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: SeekAndFind
* According to the 2009 Current Population Survey, the median Asian household had a higher income, $65,469, than the median white household,$51,863.

So why are they considered a disadvantaged minority and given preferences over non-Hispanic whites, e.g., minority business set asides? We are reinforcing and incentivizing group identification. Here is how the federal government describes the phony definition of what constitutes an "Asian."

"Asian American" means a person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, the Indian subcontinent, or the Pacific Islands, including but not limited to Japan, China, Vietnam, Samoa, Laos, Cambodia, Taiwan, Northern Mariana, the Philippines, a U.S. territory of the Pacific, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, or Sri Lanka and who is regarded as such by the community of which this person claims to be a part."

Notice that being from Australia and New Zealand is not considered Asian. And exactly what do these people from India, Japan, Bangladesh, and China share in terms of culture and history? It is ludicrous to lump these people together, And someone can step off a plane tomorrow and take advantage of these preferences. 87% of the 1.2 million legal immigrants who enter annually are minorities as classified by the USG.

25 posted on 03/19/2014 9:00:33 AM PDT by kabar
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To: max americana
The Dums had a “multicultural” table and the GOp had an all-white table for registering voters. Who did you think had the most visitors?

So the immigrants who have been here for five years have already been programmed to view things thru the prism of race and ethnicity. It is more a commentary on them than the GOP.

Non-citizen immigrants are more pro-Dem than those already with citizenship. A harbinger of things to come.


26 posted on 03/19/2014 9:04:15 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

Why Are Asian Americans Democrats?

Free stuff.


27 posted on 03/19/2014 9:06:39 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: SeekAndFind

Many Asians perceive the Republican Party to be a group of fratboys and hicks — united in being white, ignorant, and dispositionally (if not actively) hostile to Asians.

Accurately or not, they see Barack Obama and Bill Clinton as far more embodying Asian values (Self-made Ivy League “A” students) than George W. Bush or John McCain (”C”-student scions of privilege).

There’s also the factor that Asians tend to respect the holders of the commanding heights of the culture, who are 95% Democrats.


28 posted on 03/19/2014 9:07:52 AM PDT by only1percent
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To: PetroniusMaximus

RE: Free stuff.

Given that they have the highest average gross income among ethnic groups, don’t they realize that THEY PAY for it?


29 posted on 03/19/2014 9:07:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (question is this)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

The Democratic Party (and RINOs) is the party of the perceived, although mostly constitutionally nonexistent, powers of the federal government. And since constitutionally impaired state lawmakers have never made laws to require citizens to pass a basic constitutional law test before being allowed to vote, a test which emphasizes the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers, of course people are going to connect with the party making all the constitutionally indefensible “promises” concerning what the feds will do for them.


30 posted on 03/19/2014 9:17:18 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

“The Republican Party is perceived as the party of White men with guns.”

Hey watch it, I resemble that remark.


31 posted on 03/19/2014 9:18:48 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

32 posted on 03/19/2014 9:40:11 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

It’s deeper than guns and the economy with Asians, it’s religious fundamentalism. I have many friends that are Asians, and to a person, they feel Republicans in general, and Conservatives in particular, want to make America a totally Christian Nation..

They believe, our social issues are tied to Christian Fundamentalism, and they point to our insistence on the posting of the Ten Commandments, birth control, and prayer in school..

Hardly any disagree with our stand on Gay Marriage, the Welfare Socialism, or Abortion, and even immigration control, but they are intractable in the religious aspects..

They have their own beliefs, and have their experiences with radical Islam back home in southern Asia, and secularism in Europe, and don’t see much differences with hardcore Christians..


33 posted on 03/19/2014 9:46:39 AM PDT by carlo3b (Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad.. Henry Kissinger)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Communists (aka “Democrats”) do their best to brainwash minorities to believe the evil white men (Republicans) are trying to “keep them down”, and that their only salvation is the Democrat Party.


34 posted on 03/19/2014 10:03:22 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: chajin

As a person of Chinese descent, I think your response comes closest to what I have personally experienced. Among Chinese I know, religion is not as important as education and culture, which are both revered and respected in Confucian societies.

However, several Freepers have hinted to related causes which have validity for the Democrat-leanings of Asians.


35 posted on 03/19/2014 10:06:49 AM PDT by 12Gauge687
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To: ex-snook
Getting government involved in social issues?

I wonder what you mean? Gay marriage in the military and federal employment, and immigration? National defense, immigration and border?

36 posted on 03/19/2014 10:13:51 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Reeses; KeyLargo; DJ Taylor

Jews vote for their politics, which are leftist, and always have been, you can go back into the 1800s.

The democrats have always won the Jewish vote, EXCEPT, when there was a viable candidate who was more leftist, such as in 1920 when Eugene Debs ran for the Socialist Party.


37 posted on 03/19/2014 10:18:05 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
The most reliable predictor of left vs. right voting behavior the world over is population density. Jews favor high population density for several reasons such as higher paying jobs in the cities and being near other rare birds of a feather.


38 posted on 03/19/2014 10:52:39 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

[ 1. Asian culture makes them predisposed toward socialism and corruption which the Democrat Party has in spades. ]

That is because they are used to Fuedalism, and Socialism is nothing more than Neo-Feudalism.

[ 2. The Republican Party is perceived as the party of White men with guns. ]

And this is because we have lost the media fiction story.


39 posted on 03/19/2014 11:36:10 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Reeses

What a desperate crock of nonsense.

The Jewish vote is always, and has always been, totally predictable.

Jews vote liberal because they are liberal.


40 posted on 03/19/2014 11:46:55 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
I'm not disputing anything you've said about Jews, just trying to explain to you why that is so. People that live in communes tend to vote communist. People that personally own large physical possessions such as a family home on a plot of land tend to vote for American values. Jewish farmers living out in the countryside, of which there are not many, tend to vote right, not left. It has little to do with Judaism, and much to do with living in a city commune vs. living in America.
41 posted on 03/19/2014 12:46:45 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

I’m telling you that it is nonsense, Jews have not voted leftwing in America for more than 150 years because they are forced to live in the city.

They imported their politics and followed their politics, and still follow their politics, they vote liberal because they are liberal, that’s all.

I wouldn’t know where to find a local conservative Jew, but I can take you to their wonderful and large, Southern California homes and estates and point out that they are liberal, according to our political discussions.


42 posted on 03/19/2014 1:40:55 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: DJ Taylor
Because frankly, when Jews first started emigrating to America in large numbers during the late 1800s and the early 1900s, the Dems made them feel welcome. The Republicans in those days made it plain they didn't much like Jews. That feeling of being excluded from the world of the rich, eastern, snooty Pubbies who ran the party in those days remained with many ordinary Jews for years and until this day.

While many ordinary Dems were anti-Semitic, they weren't the ones keeping Jews out of elite universities, jobs, or clubs. Rich, white, wealthy Republicans were. And that's why many Jews identify with the Thief Party...oh, excuse me... Dem party to this day.

43 posted on 03/19/2014 1:41:12 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Reeses

By the way, I understand the general sociological statement you were making, but it is just another of those vague, sloppy generalizations that isn’t very useful.

American voting is not divided by those of “a family home on a plot of land” and “Jewish farmers living out in the countryside” voting for Palin and Reagan, while we working men living in apartments and condos and trailers in trailer parks and driving 15 year old vehicles vote for Obama and FDR.


44 posted on 03/19/2014 1:51:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: driftless2
Because frankly, when Jews first started emigrating to America in large numbers during the late 1800s and the early 1900s, the Dems made them feel welcome. The Republicans in those days made it plain they didn't much like Jews.

Another crock.

Jews are not voting liberal because of genetic imprinting of ancestors being annoyed 100 years ago.

That is among the silliest claims of all, especially when you follow them back to Europe and see that they brought their politics with them.

45 posted on 03/19/2014 1:54:46 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Silly? I doubt it. Other than blacks, no other ethnic group was as discriminated against as Jews. You can keep your head in the sand, but many non-wasp ethnic groups disliked Republicans because they were not welcomed. My Catholic parents and grandparents didn’t come over as socialists or Dems, but they were steered that way by bigoted Wasps.


46 posted on 03/19/2014 3:01:02 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Yes, silly, and your parents, and no, your parents were not forced to be liberals, and you may have noticed that blacks switched parties in a single election voting making their last vote as permanent republicans in 1932 giving FDR 23%, and then in 1936 becoming permanent democrats, with the GOP getting only 28%, so there is no permanent genetic memory at play that makes Jews vote liberal, and radical left when available.

Anti-Americanism drives groups to vote left, has it occurred to you as you look at the voting data and immigration, why Americans did not want American voters replaced with liberal Europeans?

“The wave of Eastern European Jews starting in the early 1880s, were generally more liberal or left wing and became the political majority. Many of the latter came to America with experience in the socialist, anarchist and communist movements as well as the Labor Bund, emanating from Eastern Europe. Many Jews rose to leadership positions in the early 20th century American labor movement and helped to found unions that played a major role in left wing politics and, after 1936, in Democratic Party politics. For most of the 20th century since 1936, the vast majority of Jews in the United States have been aligned with the Democratic Party. Towards the end of the 20th century and at the beginning of the 21st century, Republicans have launched initiatives to woo American Jews away from the Democratic Party.

Over the past century, Jews in Europe and the Americas have traditionally tended towards the political left, and played key roles in the birth of the labor movement as well as socialism. While Diaspora Jews have also been represented in the conservative side of the political spectrum, even politically conservative Jews have tended to support pluralism more consistently than many other elements of the political right.


47 posted on 03/19/2014 3:14:30 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
You miss my point. Sure, many Jews, Italians, and other ethnic groups came over with leftist sentiments or alliances. But they were not made welcome by the eastern establishment Republicans who ran the party. The Dems gladly cosseted the ethnic groups who mostly settled in large cities. In short, the Pubbies could have done more.

I'm old enough (64) to remember how much religion decided political associations fifty years ago. If you were Catholic, you voted Dem. If you were non-Southern Protestant, you voted Republican. Most Jews were for Civil Rights strongly pushed by northern, non-Republican liberal Dems. The 1964 Civil Rights bill might have not passed without Pubbie support, but most minorities identified northern lib Dems as supporting their groups or causes. Pubbies didn't do enough in those days.

As yesterday like today, perception often trumps reality. The fact that my parents, like many poor or lower middle class people, were not "forced" to be Dems denies the fact that they identified the Dem Party as the party that was for them and as my mother often said "the Republicans are only for the rich." Pubbies didn't do enough to change that false perception.

48 posted on 03/20/2014 11:41:39 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Americans did not want to import the liberal groups that had made the Europe that Americans wanted to avoid becoming, but just like today, the liberals wanted immigrants who WOULD vote against the Americans who created this great nation and make it like European countries.

I don’t buy your easy answer that they are liberal today because someone was offended 150 years ago, it isn’t realistic.

People change parties, blacks switched in a single election, when Catholics change church denominations they become more republican.

You are just doing what the media does and offering their neat little package of reasons, that don’t make sense.

Jews vote liberal because they are liberal, they are the most politically engaged group of all, they look at the issues and the parties and they vote for the liberalism that they desire and insist on, they and Catholics are not forcing themselves to vote against what they want, what they think is most important to them, just to take revenge for the 1800s.


49 posted on 03/20/2014 11:57:22 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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