Skip to comments.NASA-funded study: The way to save Western civilization from collapse is communism
Posted on 03/19/2014 10:54:20 AM PDT by mandaladon
If the United States wants to avoid falling like the Roman Empire, it must avoid overconsumption and distribute resources equally, according to a study funded by NASA.
The fall of the Roman Empire, and the equally (if not more) advanced Han, Mauryan, and Gupta Empires, as well as so many advanced Mesopotamian Empires, are all testimony to the fact that advanced, sophisticated, complex, and creative civilizations can be both fragile and impermanent, reads the NASA-funded report published in the Ecological Economics journal.
Two important features seem to appear across societies that have collapsed, the study adds. The stretching of resources due to the strain placed on the ecological carrying capacity and the economic stratification of society into Elites and Masses.
The NASA study uses a Human And Nature DYnamical (HANDY) formula to provide a general framework that allows carrying out thought experiments for the phenomenon of collapse and to test changes that would avoid it. In other words, the model only takes into account general characteristics of fallen civilizations, and not the specifics.
What did the study find? That collapse is hard to avoid in unequal societies as [e]lites grow and consume too much, resulting in a famine among Commoners that eventually causes the collapse of society.
Limits on resources harm the working class, while the wealthy are largely insulated from the problem, meaning resources continue to be used without regard to the cost to society. For example, an increase in vehicle fuel efficiency technology tends to enable increased per capita vehicle miles driven, heavier cars, and higher average speeds, which then negate the gains from the increased fuel-efficiency.
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NASA has lived way beyond its usefulness.
Can’t predict O-ring failure ,but can predict the end of the world.
I’ve got some white paint to sell them for their roof.
It’s magic paint- $5000 per gallon.
So if NASA reports that communism is the way to go, does that mean Putin will give those two guys of our on the space station a ride home?
We’ll kill the libs before they even get the trains to the first FEMA camp on the tracks.
Which worked so well for the USSR.
NASA cannot even get their science right as of the past few years.
So, they decided to get into something requiring much less intellect.
And they screwed that one up just as much.
Dear NASA, your time has expired. Go away and let those of us who still have good STEM skills attempt to straighten out what you’ve Obama’d up. (Note: Obama’d up is an upgraded term for f***ed up).
NASA is spending it’s time and money promoting, communism, islam and global warming alarmism while we go to space in old Soviet rockets. Am I the only one that thinks that’s stupid?
Noting that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to tax and spend for space exploration purposes, the way to save Western civilization with respect to USA government is to enforce federal government’s constitutionally limited powers.
NASA: Not Allowing Space Adventuring....
Besides Misery, what has Communism created?
Capitalism and personal rights created peace, enforced peace.
By it also, the world is now able to enjoy Coke(It’s the real thing), Ice cubes in their drinks, Actual Cold Beer and Levi’s.
No one wants live in any way like those who have been enslaved by totalitarian, fascist states
There is no confusion as to why people flock to our shores or cross the Rio Grande....
Everyone wants to be and American or emulate Murica.
Yippe, Kye, Yeah....Mthrfkr....
Hey NASA, how’s that communism been working up to now?
NASA: National American Socialist Association.
Why is NASA doing this? does it have anything to do with space?
Yup, mission control has left the building and the spaced monkees are running the show, I guess fantasy is much easier than real science.
Oh, well! That puts the cap on it!
I remember when NASA flew experimental aircraft and launched spacecraft - ya know, Aeronautics and Space kind of stuff.
Adopting communism is the ONLY sure-fire way to cause the collapse, but close behind is progressives/closet commies sabotaging our current system into collapse.
Progressives = closet commies . . . I like that
Coming to a town near you. Euthanasia. It's not just for breakfast anymore...
space is moving to private industry.
If private industry takes over and does NASA’s job better than NASA, where will all those government incompetents find a job?
What you said...
They just didn’t do it right.
The way “we” intend to do it will be completely benevolent and it’ll work!
ObamaCare call centers.
US Postal Service?
As educrats in one of the 57 states.
We have avowed communists as our government. Why do people have such a hard time admitting the truth?
It is hypocritical to go around accusing other governments of being communist.
We need to look after our own house.
As with everything else they wrongly believe, libs are the ultimate hypocrites on yet another subject. If they feel so strongly about this then they should be the first ones to give their wealth away followed by killing themselves to “save the planet” (or in this case the civilization). We’re waiting libs....put up or shut up.
The fact that NASA has the spare time and money to sit around and crank out policy papers regarding a predicted calamitous downfall of society indicates that it needs to be completely defunded and dissolved as a government agency. Period.
This is the whole reason for the Obamacare disaster.
Limits on resources harm the working class, while the wealthy are largely insulated from the problem, meaning resources continue to be used without regard to the cost to society.That's why rich thieves like Al Gore we be the first to go when the revolution comes.
The proverbial Road to Perdition. This is moronic drivel, and it only makes sense to those seeking the easist path to power, bribery. Unfortunately, it is our money they’re going to use, for people who won’t appreciate the sacrifices made to earn it, and who actually believe they’re entitled to it.
It provides power to those who engage in it, slavery to those who accept it, and guarantees not just social upheaval and bankruptcy, but in the end, bloody revolution. The innocents die with the guilty, and there’s only one way to prevent all this. NEVER go down the road of communism or socialism, and put those who advocate it on the hot seat, remove them from power if at all possible, and use the tools you have at your disposal to get them to admit publicly that they’re lying. It is not your best interests they have in mind, but their own. Probably not possible, but far better to make the effort now than to wait for the inevitable results.
Well Cuba, China and NK are showing the way. Well maybe not so much China since they’re sinking into the morass of Capitalism albeit somewhat slowly.
I think you might find multiculturalism could be another reason.
And how many people have been murdered by the love shared in communism? 100 plus million?
What are these idiots in NASA, pissing away our money, on a “study” like this?? This has to do with space, how?
Joe McCarthy was right after all.
Hard to believe this bunch went to the moon. I love space exploration but NASA seems to have become the “scientific agency” the leftist trot out to try and scientifically explain their latest moonbat rants.
The commies in power in this country are champing at the bit for their own “Holodomor” to occur right in the middle of the breadbasket, just like their Godfather Stalin taught them...
I wonder whom did this study. Whomever it was needs to be exterminated as they are proposing virtual mass murder of many of the planet’s population.
Isn’t this taking away from NASA’s primary mission (as it was redefined in 2009) of reminding Muslim countries of the great contributions of Muslim scientists?
“. . . I’m sure Obama agrees with this.”
Apparently the Republicans in the House of Representative agree as well. They appropriated the funds for the study. They had the option of not funding it.
[ Adopting communism is the ONLY sure-fire way to cause the collapse, but close behind is progressives/closet commies sabotaging our current system into collapse.
Progressives = closet commies . . . I like that ]
Drowning by Statists
Commies - Drown you by forcing your head into a bucket of water
Progressives - Drown you by intentionally infecting you with Pneumonia and you drown slowly on the fuilds filling your lungs...
...but a whole bunch of faerie dust.