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Expert Believes Missing Malaysian Airlines Flight Being Held For Ransom (Theory Du Jour)
CBS NEWS ^ | March 19, 2014

Posted on 03/19/2014 10:57:51 AM PDT by McGruff

Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 is no closer to being found as the disappearance of the Boeing 777 carrying 239 people nears its two-week mark.

Pilot suicide, terrorism and hijacking are some possibilities that are being theorized to the plane as the search area expanded to 7 million square miles. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said last week that “there are a number of possible scenarios that are being investigated as to what happened to the flight.”

Rick Mathews, of the National Center for Security & Preparedness at the Rockefeller College of Public Affairs & Policy of SUNY Albany, tells CBSDC that there is another theory that should be put into play: the missing flight is being held for ransom by a group of individuals, maybe including people from the flight crew.

“You want to most likely hide the plane so that it will not be seen and get these people away from there. You want a place to prove life, confirm the fact that they are alive without giving away their location,” Mathews told CBSDC, adding that this was an “internal hijacking” that might have been perpetrated by one or more members of the crew.

Mathews feels the hijackers will go public “anytime now” because the weight of the world and governments will be on them.

“If they are ransoming, they want to get away with this,” Mathews explained. “They are not doing this as a suicidal play, they want to make use of this. They want to make sure they have a place for themselves.”

Mathews believes whoever took the plane had an air strip prepared for landing and camouflage as to not be caught by satellites.

“It takes a great deal of coordination to hide a plane,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washington.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 777; fakebutaccurate; ibrahim; iran; malaysia; malaysian; mh370; missingplane; muslimbrotherhood; mythmaking; plane; ratherbiased; seebsnews; waronterror
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Look for the Aliens theory when this one doesn't pan out.
1 posted on 03/19/2014 10:57:51 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

2 posted on 03/19/2014 11:01:06 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: McGruff

The 777 is on the moon. NASA has pictures but won’t release them. I’m sure somebody on FR will post the picture.


3 posted on 03/19/2014 11:04:24 AM PDT by satan (The tree of liberty is dying in the drought.)
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To: McGruff

Spot on, the lack of a ransom note proves it.


4 posted on 03/19/2014 11:04:37 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: McGruff

Never have the media shown to be such morons, looking to capitalize on every nut case theory, than about Flight 370.


5 posted on 03/19/2014 11:04:46 AM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: McGruff

OK. I’ll play...

If the plane was hijacked to be used as part of a subsequent terrorist attack — a la 9/11 — then the passengers are already dead along with any of the crew that weren’t in on the hijacking.

My number 1 theory is the cockpit fire. It fits the few known facts without adding in assumptions about hiding a plane that are just so unlikely as to be next-to-impossible.


6 posted on 03/19/2014 11:06:02 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: McGruff

Ok, I have had enough of the story of this aircraft. Call me when they find it.


7 posted on 03/19/2014 11:06:25 AM PDT by cork (Gun control = hitting what you aim at)
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To: McGruff

I would think that ransom demands would be made within 24 hours or no more than 48.


8 posted on 03/19/2014 11:08:08 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice.)
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To: Tallguy
The passengers would be useful as hostages aboard the plane as it heads toward Tel Aviv.

9 posted on 03/19/2014 11:08:29 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: McGruff

Ransom? Isn’t it a typical tactic for demands to have been made...by now??


10 posted on 03/19/2014 11:10:50 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: McGruff

If they are still looking then this can’t be true —— thanks for playing!


11 posted on 03/19/2014 11:11:30 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Genoa

The passengers would be useful as hostages aboard the plane as it heads toward Tel Aviv.
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Not in the eyes of the IAF.


12 posted on 03/19/2014 11:14:24 AM PDT by SixIron (Golf and liberal thinking- life's great frustrations)
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To: Mike Darancette

It took three long weeks to find a missing USAF A10 which happened to go down over land. There was a lot of speculation about that one too because it was loaded with live bombs (which they never found) It was ruled pilot suicide, the old CFT, Controlled Flight into Terrain.


13 posted on 03/19/2014 11:16:44 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: Genoa

That is my thinking too. It’s the same old double whammy the radical muslims enjoy.


14 posted on 03/19/2014 11:17:23 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Wolfie
Spot on, the lack of a ransom note proves it.

If there is a ransom note, its publication would likely be a delicate matter.

15 posted on 03/19/2014 11:18:59 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Genoa

So, someone will say “baruch dayan emet” while blowing up the plane! Seriously, you don’t think that will stop the Israelis, do you? Netanyahu would be faced with the choice of some 300 gentiles vs. over 400,000 Israelis...


16 posted on 03/19/2014 11:20:55 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: McGruff

Lets take a poll.


17 posted on 03/19/2014 11:20:58 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Former Fetus
Oh my, no, I don't think it will stop the Israelis at all. But it's not what I think that matters.

18 posted on 03/19/2014 11:23:16 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: McGruff
Pilot supporter of Muslim-brotherhood linked politician ( son in law of Anwar Ibrahim)

pilot related to jailed Malaysian opposition leader

19 posted on 03/19/2014 11:24:30 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: McGruff

When you hold something/someone for ransom, don’t you have to let someone know you have it/them? < /Captain Obvious >


20 posted on 03/19/2014 11:27:39 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: McGruff

My theory is there are/were suitcase bombs on board. The perps...(4-8) split them up and have gone in different directions. Land in Pakistan?? Why not....A suitcase is worth a few million to them.


21 posted on 03/19/2014 11:29:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: cork

When you see that eerie, glowing mushroom cloud to your east/southeast, you’ll know they’ve located it.


22 posted on 03/19/2014 11:29:59 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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To: Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows; JoeProBono
"Is it Bull**** or Not?" - Henry Silva


23 posted on 03/19/2014 11:37:47 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: McGruff

Perhaps Mooshell needed another plane for her luggage.


24 posted on 03/19/2014 11:38:17 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: a fool in paradise

When I grow up I wanna be a expert, mommy!


25 posted on 03/19/2014 11:41:35 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: McGruff; mickie; flaglady47; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner; seekthetruth; seenenuf
Okay, I'll play, also. I couldn't resist any more, heheh.

I think the plane landed safely. I don't have a clue where it landed.

The passengers are alive and are hostages to whatever demands the hi-jackers are presenting. I don't have a clue who the hi-jackers are.

The various governments know about this tense situation which is why they are being non-forthcoming and extremely coy, careful and "red-herring" with their statements. The fate of the passenger-prisoners hangs in the balance while secret negotiations are going on....therefore, no REAL news or information is being released for the safety of the captives.

I'm bookmarking the hypothesis I'm posting on this thread for future reference when I'm proven correct, LOL.

Leni

26 posted on 03/19/2014 11:47:41 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal
...no REAL news or information is being released...

I think we can all agree with that.

27 posted on 03/19/2014 11:51:56 AM PDT by McGruff (They say the first casualty of war is truth)
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To: Revolting cat!
I'm a former pert myself.


28 posted on 03/19/2014 11:58:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: McGruff

I believe Godzilla sized flying lizards came out of the sky and swallowed it whole. Prove me wrong.


29 posted on 03/19/2014 12:07:10 PM PDT by Durbin
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To: McGruff

Where would they be holding them ransom — in Davey Jones Locker????


30 posted on 03/19/2014 12:08:05 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Tallguy

Makes about the most sense of all the theories. Sudden fire disables all communications and controls.


31 posted on 03/19/2014 12:26:38 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Uncle Chip

And exactly what are 220+ ppl doin for food and water? I have said before the water intake alone would now be over 1200 gallons for the past 11 days. Food we all know one has supposedly 30 days.
If the plane is not at the bottom of the sea and is still intact for another infamous purpose, the passengers were prob marched out the door in low flight! If it was a for ransom, demands would have already been made!
IT crashed and will just have to be located.


32 posted on 03/19/2014 12:35:14 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: DocJhn

There were two islands on this pilot’s computer where they could have landed off the west coast of Australia and found supplies — Christmas Island and the Cocos.

But these are Australian properties and they clearly aren’t there as the Aussies are searching the waters 1600 miles off Perth.


33 posted on 03/19/2014 12:42:46 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: MinuteGal

Reminds me of Munich.


34 posted on 03/19/2014 1:15:56 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Uncle Chip

Isn’t Christmas Island where they had the nuclear testing?


35 posted on 03/19/2014 1:17:02 PM PDT by virgil
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To: virgil

I don’t think so —

Christmas_Island

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Island


36 posted on 03/19/2014 1:22:03 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: McGruff

37 posted on 03/19/2014 1:23:50 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. ~ Albert Einstein)
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To: Ingtar

1. Her, her mom, and the kids are going to China to sign up the hostages for Obamacare - - the ‘golden opportunity’ to create ‘more hostages to Obamacare’!
2. No press will accompany them.
3. We’ll never know.


38 posted on 03/19/2014 1:28:15 PM PDT by cuspofcommonsense
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To: McGruff; a fool in paradise
The Boeing 777 is being hidden behind the grassy knoll, I tell you!


39 posted on 03/19/2014 1:28:53 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Revolting cat!
I THINK I SEE IT!


40 posted on 03/19/2014 1:31:09 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: McGruff
Wow....I could believe that the plane could've been hidden with live passengers for a few days, especially since nobody knew where to look. I could believe a secret could be kept for maybe a day.

But this long...hundreds of live people and keeping it a secret? That would be amazing.

41 posted on 03/19/2014 1:31:15 PM PDT by grania
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To: cuspofcommonsense

Plane, crew, and hostages in hangar @ Kuala Lumpur airport under armed government guard.
Government-run air carrier filing for insurance payment for aircraft and ransom for hostages.
Air carrier will show a ‘profit’ for 2014.


42 posted on 03/19/2014 1:31:34 PM PDT by cuspofcommonsense
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To: Uncle Chip
There must be more than one Christmas Island. This article puts the island in the Pacific.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Grapple

43 posted on 03/19/2014 1:32:13 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Revolting cat!; Daffynition

44 posted on 03/19/2014 1:49:22 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: a fool in paradise

My favorite and frankly the most plausible theory was posted here yesterday and it went like this:

Obama has been strangely silent about this incident, which means he knows what happened and where the aircraft is now. End theory.

I went ahead and summarized it for the general public as follows:

Nobody is saying anything, therefore they know everything!


45 posted on 03/19/2014 1:57:18 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Revolting cat!

If the pilot is proven to be gay, Obama will express his condolences and offer amnesty to those who are persecuted for the love that formerly dare not speaketh itsth nameth.


46 posted on 03/19/2014 1:59:45 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: virgil

Yep apparently there are two of them — one for the Pacific and one for the Indian Ocean.


47 posted on 03/19/2014 2:07:16 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: McGruff

Well, lets see.

Father-in-law of pilot is jailed. Pilot sends his wife and kids into hiding and hijacks the plane and is holding the passengers hostage in order to get his father-in-law released.

Malaysian government is in a tight spot and is trying to figure out how to save face. They have a no-win situation. They have two choices, neither of which are good:

1. Malaysia releases their political prisoner and have the plane and passengers show up and the whole world knows they’ve been bested, or

2. They don’t free their prisoner and the pilot lets the whole world know the passengers are being held hostage and it is all in the hands of the Malaysian government as to whether they will ever see their loved ones again. Malaysia will then be in the cross-hair of other countries, most notably China.


48 posted on 03/19/2014 2:35:20 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: MinuteGal; cyn; onyx; 444Flyer
I can't believe this story is still ongoing. Well okay I'll play too!

Seems to me that if perchance this plane were stolen *and* also safely put on the ground, that that would already be a stretch as to what clever thieves could theoretically pull off.

To also have the ability, organization, and general wherewithall to hold 230+ hostages? For a couple of weeks or more? The lunatics may be crazy, but they can't possibly be that nutty. Who would have the patience for that? More likely an incinerator or mass grave would have been put to use. :(

If the plane is not at the bottom of the IO but about to reincarnate as an angel of death, I'd be wary of MAY DAY. You know how these clowns love symbolism e.g. 911, the number representing a life-or-death emergency. Happens to be this year's National Day of Prayer, not to mention the usual history/meaning of the "holiday", or the list of events on "this day in history". Most in notably 1945 and 2011.

Eh who knows, but always best to have the homework ready to turn in, just in case.

49 posted on 03/19/2014 2:40:59 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: SkyDancer

It takes a long time and a big delivery system to get $3 billion together and to the site.


50 posted on 03/19/2014 3:00:46 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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