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Baristas hope packing pistols will discourage robberies ( WA )
The Spokesman-Review ^ | March 19, 2014 | Jody Lawrence-Turner

Posted on 03/19/2014 3:58:13 PM PDT by george76

Coffee stand hit three times.

Krystal Cogswell wears a holstered pistol on her hip while pulling espresso at Jitterz Java in Northwest Spokane.

“I figure if they can see it, maybe it will be a deterrent, apparently being a girl isn’t enough,” the 24-year-old said.

Robbers have struck Jitterz Java twice in February. On Sunday, a man who appeared to be armed ran off after a barista grabbed her gun and called police.

The recent string of violence has owner Sara Chapel fed up. “The way I’ve been scheduling the girls is that at least one girl who carries a gun is always on shift,” she said. The women will carry their own personal handguns that they’ve been trained to use.

Chapel has encouraged all of her employees to seek firearms training.

(Excerpt) Read more at spokesman.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Idaho; US: Maine; US: Montana; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; guns; rkba; secondamendment

1 posted on 03/19/2014 3:58:13 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Hmm...my usual order is, “I’ll have a double, straight shots, please.” I might have to rephrase that... BTT


2 posted on 03/19/2014 4:01:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

I’m sure libtards will say “no, a peace sign is all you need. Guns are evil”


3 posted on 03/19/2014 4:03:45 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: george76

I’m sure Holder is already sending the gestapo to deal with these people who think it’s ok to arm themselves.


4 posted on 03/19/2014 4:03:59 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Veggie Todd

Minorities hit hardest.


5 posted on 03/19/2014 4:05:22 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: george76

As long as she knows she’s outta reach!

Otherwise, she’s likely to be disarmed and have it used against her!

That’s the importance of “concealed” carry!

They don’t “know” that you have it, but it’s there if you need it.


6 posted on 03/19/2014 4:05:55 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: Billthedrill; george76

It will be interesting to see where those drive through coffee shop baristas who wear only bikinis will ‘keep their heat?’


7 posted on 03/19/2014 4:12:13 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: george76

8 posted on 03/19/2014 4:17:29 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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To: caveat emptor
From the Constitution Maine will vote on June 12, 2018:

Section 6. The Militia and the standing army of 1,000. So as to insure and guarantee the rights guaranteed in this Constitution, every natural born male in the Republic of Maine, upon reaching the age of 18 years from conception through age 67 years from conception, has, as a member of the Militia, the obligation to keep and bear arms for the common defense, for his and his families protection, to defend against this government or any government in the future from becoming oppressive, tyrannical, or in any other way obnoxious to freedom, and to secure the rights written in this Constitution. This obligation shall never be questioned. No law shall be passed that restricts this obligation, except for time in a local jail, county jail or Maine Republic prison. No law shall be passed, test given, or fee assessed to any citizen of the Republic of Maine, age 18 from the age of conception, both male and female, that would restrict in any way that citizens right to be armed either concealed or open. Males who are found to be or confess to being homosexuals are refused entry and from serving in either the Militia or the standing army. Males over the age of 67 may be voluntary members of the Militia with the full rights of Militia members. Natural born males between the age of 16 years from conception to 18 years from conception may volunteer for Militia service with the written permission of parents or guardians. The standing army of 1,000 shall be drawn from the Militia by the commander of the Militia and is under the command of the commander of the Militia who is appointed by and reports directly to the President.

We figure she is right, just seeing a gun is often all it takes to make a criminal think twice. Especially when you factor this in:

Section 7. All human life is precious and a gift from God. Age is counted from the moment life begins, which is at the moment of conception and as such, all human life is protected from conception to death and has the full rights of this Constitution from conception. Any citizen of the Republic of Maine may use what ever force he or she deems necessary to protect human life. All abortions are considered first degree premeditated murder, children are entrusted, by God the Creator to that child's parents and as such are the responsibility of the parents, not the state, no level of Government whether local, county or Republic is to, in any way, over rule a parent in the rearing, educating, and/or influencing that child in any way.

9 posted on 03/19/2014 4:23:59 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: caveat emptor

She carries that extra weight rather nicely...


10 posted on 03/19/2014 4:38:02 PM PDT by HiJinx (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
So as to insure and guarantee the rights guaranteed in this Constitution, every natural born male in the Republic of Maine, upon reaching the age of 18 years from conception through age 67 years from conception, has, as a member of the Militia, the obligation to keep and bear arms for the common defense, for his and his families protection, to defend against this government or any government in the future from becoming oppressive, tyrannical, or in any other way obnoxious to freedom, and to secure the rights written in this Constitution.

Sounds good, but "has, as a member of the Militia," is somewhat ambiguous. Does that mean those males are automatically members of the Militia, or does it mean that if they are...etc.

[Oops, I mis-read that as an already existing constitution.]

In any event Maine has very low crime rates. OTOH, Maine's 95% white population might have something to do with it.
11 posted on 03/19/2014 4:56:35 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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To: caveat emptor

Gutsy girl. I hope she is right.

Most perps wont want anything to do with that. But, on the otherhand, some perp sees it and may take it from her, etc. etc.

With that many recent robberies, something needs to be done.

I prefer mine concealed, unless I am making a statement about open carry.


12 posted on 03/19/2014 5:48:58 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: caveat emptor

What you read is not the current it is the part of the Constitution that will be voted on June 12, 2018. With that vote, Maine will leave the Union and be the first state to be free. No IRS, No EPA, No Dept of ED or Energy, No FBI, No IRS, NO BATF.

A right to work country that cannot ever join the UN, a country that has only 1,000 men serving in the active military, but that is enough to insure our freedom and borders.

A country where education is prohibited to the Republic and counties, and is restricted to the local community second and the parent first, a country by Constitution rewards families that homeschool.

A country that, by Constitution, defines anyone entering through other than a legitimate border crossing, is defined as an armed attacker and can be dealt with as the such.


13 posted on 03/19/2014 5:51:37 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: george76

From the actual article, “The police wouldn’t comment on Chapel’s decision to encourage armed baristas, said Spokane Police Department spokeswoman Monique Cotton. “We would encourage anyone in any situation to call us. We have excellent response times.” “

“The police arrived on scene in three minutes on Feb. 18 and 28 and in four minutes on March 16.”

Well good for them.

I usually plan my safety according this:
“Dial 911 and Die”
http://www.amazon.com/Dial-911-Die-Garn-Turner/dp/0964230445

Aaron Zelman of JPFO is one of the authors.


14 posted on 03/19/2014 5:54:11 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: caveat emptor

Nice grip on that butt, ...it’s one reason I like revolvers.


15 posted on 03/19/2014 6:06:24 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: ForYourChildren

“Most perps wont want anything to do with that. But, on the otherhand, some perp sees it and may take it from her, etc. etc.”

This has been discussed extensively on the open carry gun sites. Turns out there’s been ZERO instances recorded of that happening nationwide despite plenty of open carry going on. Happens sometimes (rarely) to cops, but not to civilians. It sounds reasonable to say “might” and “maybe” but the actual facts prove otherwise.


16 posted on 03/19/2014 6:57:38 PM PDT by pyrless (If you're gonna burn our flag, make sure you wrap yourself in it first!)
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To: G Larry

“As long as she knows she’s outta reach!

Otherwise, she’s likely to be disarmed and have it used against her!

That’s the importance of “concealed” carry!

They don’t “know” that you have it, but it’s there if you need it.”

Her whole point is to have it visible as a DETERENCE. This works. Lots of reports of a bad guy avoiding a holstered gun once it was spotted. Never been a case reported nationwide of an open carry gun being grabbed from a citizen. Happens sometimes to cops, though.


17 posted on 03/19/2014 7:01:47 PM PDT by pyrless (If you're gonna burn our flag, make sure you wrap yourself in it first!)
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To: ForYourChildren

A response time of three minutes? Four minutes?

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.


18 posted on 03/19/2014 7:15:22 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: george76
"“We are specifically trained to put ourselves between the public and a dangerous situation, so the best thing to do is call police as soon as possible,” Cotton said."

ROFL Stop! Stop! Yer killin' me here!

19 posted on 03/19/2014 7:35:22 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: pyrless

Yea, I think generally you are correct.

If a perp sees it, he will want to go to where the pickings will be easier, and leave her alone. Similar to making the house entry difficult and alarmed. If a perp sees that the house he may be entering is alarmed, he usually goes to easier pickings.

This is why self defense with guns work. Society is safer if perps think someone may have a gun. And this is why gun control and gun free zones don’t work. But this is just common sense.


20 posted on 03/19/2014 7:36:16 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: george76

The barista militia.


21 posted on 03/19/2014 7:39:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
Welcome to FR...and Good Luck!
22 posted on 03/19/2014 10:55:56 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Navy Patriot; caveat emptor

Nice grip on that butt, ...it’s one reason I like revolvers
= = = = = = = = = = = = =

I had to read this comment a couple of times.

Guess you know where my ‘mind’ is.

When I first saw pic, I commented to myself how the piece had a nice place to rest.

Then ‘CE’ sort of ‘read my mind’...


23 posted on 03/19/2014 11:32:49 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --"I would agree with you BUT that would make both of us wrong".)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

The little bank inside the small grocery store was robbed near us. The cops were there shortly - but the guy was gone. The cops had been inside the Starbucks two doors down (150 feet?) at the time.


24 posted on 03/19/2014 11:37:23 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Tainan
<"Welcome to FR...and Good Luck!"

Thank you and God willing we will be able to offer you a safe place to live after June of 2018.

25 posted on 03/20/2014 6:16:36 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: caveat emptor

Being white is not the reason for low crime. A cultural adherence to a value set that comes from a long history of thought and philosophy and religion is THE why. “Whites” did not magically pop into existence as better people it took thousands of years of struggle, violence and bloodshed to forge western thought. But we have thrown it away in one generation. I hope this experiment will eventually put us back on the right track, but i doubt it. A new dark age is more likely. A 1000 years perhaps and much misery.


26 posted on 03/20/2014 6:21:02 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: xrmusn
Of course I was being annoying while confrontational to the Femanazis and irritating to the Gays, but truthful regarding revolvers.

However, philosophically, I believe armed Baristas are an excellent idea. And the rest of the gals should carry on their person, too, if they have a mind to.

I recommend not using a purse or handbag, and have respectfully disagreed with FReeper gals on this point, and anything that makes them and society more comfortable with firearms on their person, open or concealed, is OK with me.

27 posted on 03/20/2014 8:05:09 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: DariusBane
Being white is not the reason for low crime.

"Being white is... the reason for low crime" is not what I said.

It's a good idea to cite what someone says before commenting on it, just to be sure you're getting it right.

In fact, though there is a higher statistical correlation with black violent crime than with white violent crime, correlation is not the same as causation, or as you put it "the reason for".

That said, whatever the causes may be, and whether you're black or white, you're less likely to be robbed, stabbed, shot, raped, etc, if you live in an area that's 95% white than 95% black. John Derbyshire in The Talk: Non-black Version was right.
28 posted on 03/20/2014 1:55:08 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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