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Site Cleared Of Homes By Eminent Domain Remains Empty Eight Years Later
Opposing Views ^ | March 19, 2014 | Jared Keever

Posted on 03/20/2014 4:37:10 AM PDT by Mean Daddy

It has been a little over eight years since the U.S. Supreme Court decided that homeowners in New London, Conn., had no property rights. In 2005 residents in the Fort Trumbull neighborhood of New London were told they had to abandon their homes so the city’s government could demolish them and hand the property over to developers to build hotels, health clubs and new condominiums.

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I'm guessing the families are happy.
1 posted on 03/20/2014 4:37:10 AM PDT by Mean Daddy
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To: Mean Daddy

Maybe we need to send these articles to the 9 Justices, along with the article showing medical costs rising 50% since Obamacare.
My what a great job they’re doing.

I would imagine the New London taxpayers are on the hook for the cost of displacing those homeowners?


2 posted on 03/20/2014 4:49:14 AM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Undecided 2012

From wiki

The controversy was eventually settled when the city paid substantial additional compensation to the homeowners and agreed to move Kelo’s home to a new location.[11] The land was never deeded back to the original homeowners, most of whom have left New London for nearby communities.[2] Three years after the Supreme Court case was decided, the Kelo house was dedicated after being relocated to a site close to downtown New London.[12] Susette Kelo, however, has moved to a different part of Connecticut.

In spite of repeated efforts, the redeveloper (who stood to get a 91-acre (370,000 m2) waterfront tract of land for $1 per year) was unable to obtain financing, and the redevelopment project was abandoned. As of the beginning of 2010, the original Kelo property was a vacant lot, generating no tax revenue for the city.[2] As of March 2012, it was still vacant.[13] As of February 2014, it was still vacant.[14


3 posted on 03/20/2014 4:56:44 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
As of the beginning of 2010, the original Kelo property was a vacant lot, generating no tax revenue for the city.

"Just deserts"?

"Karma"?

4 posted on 03/20/2014 5:00:09 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: Mean Daddy

The site sits empty and looks like hell. The developer should be fined daily until their great grandchildren are slaves to the Kelo evictees.


5 posted on 03/20/2014 5:08:07 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I miss you, dad.)
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To: BwanaNdege

“As of the beginning of 2010, the original Kelo property was a vacant lot, generating no tax revenue for the city.”

I remember being horrified by this decision. The one liberty essential to the American idea is property rights. Prior to America any king could take your property. My understanding of eminent domain was, until this decision, was that if the government needed a harbor or a train station they could take your property and compensate you for the value. But in the 1960’s LBJ’s Great Society seized black owned property (judged to be of little value) all over Tampa and built Soviet style apartment blocks that they rented (and subsidized the rent) to the former owners of that property. Today, if it weren’t for the government ghetto those privately owned homes would be worth a fortune.


6 posted on 03/20/2014 5:08:59 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Mean Daddy

I have always wished the ‘Justices’ on the SCOTUS that voted for this should have ALL their property seized and sold. The money should go to all the people who have lost their property due to unjust ‘Eminent Domain’ claims.


7 posted on 03/20/2014 5:09:50 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Mean Daddy

Was this the first Eminent Domain claim that the properties in question could bring in more tax revenue for the Government? I never liked Eminent Domain, but it should NEVER have been used for anything other than need for public use (roads, etc).


8 posted on 03/20/2014 5:12:29 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Gen.Blather
But in the 1960’s LBJ’s Great Society seized black owned property (judged to be of little value) all over Tampa and built Soviet style apartment blocks that they rented (and subsidized the rent) to the former owners of that property. Today, if it weren’t for the government ghetto those privately owned homes would be worth a fortune.

Not only Tampa; the government gutted the urban areas of almost every major city in America. And, you're absolutely correct; most of those homes they bulldozed belonged to blacks. In Boston, "urban renewal" (don't you just love government euphemisms!) for the construction of I-95 (which never happened), resulted in the detraction of thousands of homes in the South End, Roxbury, and Jamaica Plain neighborhoods. Today, in the remaining section of the South End, brick townhouses sell for several million dollars.

9 posted on 03/20/2014 5:21:39 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: originalbuckeye

I seem to remember a movement at the time to eminent domain David Souter’s house in New Hampshire.

That was a movement I supported.


10 posted on 03/20/2014 5:22:01 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: originalbuckeye
Why do you cry so much about these things? In Mother America this is now way we do these things. You are just lowly worker and must know your place. You talk too much maybe you find self in FEMA camp one day. You must always do what is good for Party and State first.
11 posted on 03/20/2014 5:24:52 AM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: Flick Lives

“Not only Tampa;”

I mentioned Tampa because I was there, roughly 10 years old. I had started reading the newspaper and (although not notably pro-black at the time)it reported that the homes being bulldozed were owned outright, in many cases by the same families for generations. And, it said they would be given apartments which would rent for more than they could afford. But, it was okay as the taxpayers would subsidize them. I remember riding through those neighborhoods. Many homes were unpainted but all seemed well maintained. There was no graffiti or derelict cars. Nobody stared at us or made threatening gestures. All of that changed within a year. Gangs, graffiti, burned cars and bums sleeping on the sidewalks became commonplace. Even a 10 year old could see the scale of the disaster.


12 posted on 03/20/2014 5:30:58 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Mean Daddy
Regardless of what the current developer or a new developer tries to do, anything built on the Kelo tract should be boycotted forever. That tract should remain a blighted area as a monument to the fact that the people have the final say. Even if this taking was constitutional, if was corrupt and immoral.

We need to make sure that no one forgets the wrong that was done by big government or profits from that wrong. The next time there is a similar attempt to steal real property, it would be nice to point to this blight and remind the thief that they will be hated (which liberals don't care about) and never profit or even collect higher taxes from the theft (which they do care about).

13 posted on 03/20/2014 5:35:01 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Gen.Blather
Even a 10 year old could see the scale of the disaster.

Sad that this happened all over the country; and all under the guise of "urban renewal". The politicians could tout it in their next campaign, the city got tax-payer money for "renewal", the unions got fat contracts to tear down sections of the city. The former homeowners, and tax payers, who were mainly minorities, were pushed out and into the projects, ultimately creating a permanent underclass beholden to the government for a few crumbs. A better destruction of the social fabric could not have been planned.

14 posted on 03/20/2014 5:39:28 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: Gen.Blather

Property rights ?
Try mining the coal on your land without federal approval.


15 posted on 03/20/2014 5:54:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Is New London still a sh#t hole? I would have thought they would have benefitted to some extent the Mohegan Sun/Foxwoods Casinos development and expansions.

I can not believe someone would not want this property to build some kind of marina. There is always a shortage of boat slip space with direct access to Long Island sound/Atlantic Ocean.

My dad/mom had a farm in upstate NY taken by eminent domain back in 1960. Their 500 acre farm became part of Iroquois National Wildlife Refuge. It is a big wetland area that is a major stop for migratory water foul. He complained for the next 40 years that they had underpaid him. The government is supposed to give you a fair market value for your property. He always stated that this farm had 5-6’ of sandy loam topsoil. Instead of corn being knee high by the fourth of July, this land would grow corn waist high by the fourth of July. Therefore, as farm land it was worth a lot more.


16 posted on 03/20/2014 5:57:28 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963 (=)
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To: Flick Lives

This was and remains a travesty. Apart from how unjust it was taking and destroying these people’s properties, the climate in medicine and pharmaceuticals led to Pfizer downsizing and leaving the facility that was supposed to be the anchor of what New London thought was going to be built there.


17 posted on 03/20/2014 5:59:09 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Property Rights?

Try digging a pond on your property. I assume we are all familiar with the most recent case in WY where a guy is being fined by the EPA for a pond on his property that he had permission from the state to build.


18 posted on 03/20/2014 6:07:19 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963 (=)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Property rights ?

Try harvesting rain water that falls on your property if you live in Oregon.


19 posted on 03/20/2014 6:12:37 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Property rights ?

Ever heard of “zoning”?

I think zoning was the first step to surrendering these rights.


20 posted on 03/20/2014 6:22:48 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: originalbuckeye
Was this the first Eminent Domain claim that the properties in question could bring in more tax revenue for the Government?

Don't know if it was the first - it was the first I'd ever heard about. And that is what was so stunningly horrific about it. By that standard, Eminent Domain could be used to take almost any property from anyone.

What I found so outrageous about it, is that it opens up an avenue whereby the government can simply take your property, to increase their own wealth and power, by claiming that their having more wealth and power is GOOD for the public at large.

That's some sick and twisted thinking right there.

21 posted on 03/20/2014 6:33:59 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Property rights ? Try harvesting rain water that falls on your property if you live in Oregon.

Played that stupid game; got all the stupid prizes.

Fight the Free Sh☭t Nation

22 posted on 03/20/2014 6:42:18 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Pfizer should be paying the estates of all the lawful landowners for their loss of this property for the next 100 years. Too bad Eric The Red Holder isn’t into private property rights or he would shake it out of them.


23 posted on 03/20/2014 6:42:48 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Gen.Blather

“I remember being horrified by this decision. The one liberty essential to the American idea is property rights. Prior to America any king could take your property.”

In the 1960s the government seized the properties of the residents of Doodletown NY (along the Hudson River, south of West Point), allegedly to build a ski center for the adjoining Bear Mountain State Park. The ski center was never built, and their properties were simply added to the park (with no improvements - just the demolition of their homes, school, and church, and the barricading of the roads). Some of those families had been there when we DID have a king (they pre-dated the American Revolution); in the end a diffferent “king” took their land anyway...


24 posted on 03/20/2014 6:45:38 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Mean Daddy

Same thing happened in my town. Probably 6 or so little rectangular mill houses, 1000 - 1200 square feet, built off the ground, and hence, as easy to move as any house would ever be were on a piece of property the city claimed under eminent domain for future development. City came in with a front-end loader and demolished the houses. Now it’s just an empty lot grown over with trees now. Before I could make an offer to buy and move the houses, the city had torn them down.


25 posted on 03/20/2014 7:00:38 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: Travis T. OJustice

“The developer should be fined daily until their great grandchildren are slaves to the Kelo evictees.”

It ain’t the developer’s fault. It is the city that abbrogated its duty to its own citizens. The city was supposed to protect the people of New London - rather it violated their property rights (morally, if not under the bizzare case law of the SCOTUS). The developer was only doing what developers will do - and in a perfect world they would have had to offer Ms. Kelo and the others sufficient compensation to get them to agree to sell their land. The city decided to screw its own citizens to fill full the Greedy Hand of Government with precious tax revenue lucre! The developer did not owe a duty to the citizens of New London, the city government did!


26 posted on 03/20/2014 7:07:23 AM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: Mean Daddy

scotus.. add an R, what do ya got?


27 posted on 03/20/2014 9:18:12 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Mean Daddy

Urban renewal for New London, CT: use eminent domain to seize all private property in town, bulldoze all buildings, and pave over everything to make a king size municipal parking lot. Yup, that will be a great money maker for the town politicians.


28 posted on 03/20/2014 4:08:06 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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