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Why Mitch McConnell really matters
money.cnn.com ^ | 3/20/14 | Tony Newmyer

Posted on 03/20/2014 5:27:14 AM PDT by cotton1706

Let's get this out of the way now: As far as big deals coming out of Washington, this year is already junked. With the midterm elections in view for jittery lawmakers, chances for a breakthrough on an immigration overhaul, a rewrite of the tax code, or a major jobs package have all but vanished. (Take a bow, partisans.) But we could wake up Nov. 5 with a very different political order. President Obama, at that point, would still have two years in the Oval Office to seal his legacy.

Certainly the President himself will help shape that future. Beyond that, however, Obama's record is likely to depend on Republicans even more than on members of his own party. And that means that what the federal government regulates, taxes, and spends over the next several years could in large part hinge on the actions of just one 72-year-old Southerner: Mitch McConnell. Assuming he's still in office.

Which brings us squarely to the right now.

Tantalizingly close to achieving his career ambition of seizing control of the Senate, the Kentucky Republican is also as close as he's been during five terms in the chamber to being sent packing. The Senate minority leader faces battles on both flanks: on the right, with a primary challenge from multimillionaire investor Matt Bevin; on the left, with a general-election cage match that's already neck and jowl. (As of presstime, Democratic frontrunner Alison Lundergan Grimes, Kentucky's 35-year-old secretary of state, was slightly ahead in the polls.) Handicappers expect that the candidates and outside groups will spend more than $100 million on the race, much of it coming from outside the state.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections
"If McConnell can fend off his conservative challenger on May 20, guide four of his fellow incumbents through a thicket of Tea Party primary challenges, and survive the November election -- a difficult hat trick -- he is likely to emerge as the one Washington Republican who can return the Grand Old Party to the grand old political center and put an end to Tea Party extremism."

See! This is why they're going all out to protect McConnell, and why he must be removed from power one way or the other, either in May or in November.

"return the Grand Old Party to the grand old political center" We all know what that means. Minority status and defeat after defeat, all the while assisting the left.

1 posted on 03/20/2014 5:27:14 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Well....if you’ve got to say it....


2 posted on 03/20/2014 5:32:10 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: cotton1706

CNN is stumping for Mitch McConnell?

As if anything more need be said.....


3 posted on 03/20/2014 5:33:52 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Yes, I noticed that they pointed out that one of his greatest assets would be that he could help Obama solidify his legacy. That’s a really good reason to vote for him /s


4 posted on 03/20/2014 5:37:29 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: cotton1706

Fear the turtle!

(Not you, Barry! Only those nasty Tea Party people!)


5 posted on 03/20/2014 5:42:23 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: cotton1706

He’s up 40 points on Bevins.

It’s a McConnell/Grimes shootout.

Who wants the Democrat to win?

I loathe Democrats.


6 posted on 03/20/2014 5:42:26 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
I loathe Democrats.

I loathe turncoat Republicans.

7 posted on 03/20/2014 5:47:53 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: smoothsailing

It’s better to have a Democrat in the seat than Rino, particularly a Rino by today’s standard.


8 posted on 03/20/2014 5:56:48 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: smoothsailing

McConnell polling over Bevin (40 points is a reported McConnell Poll); however, McConnell is behind the Democrat Grimes while Bevin is ahead of Grimes(????)


9 posted on 03/20/2014 5:59:24 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: smoothsailing

“He’s up 40 points on Bevins. It’s a McConnell/Grimes shootout. Who wants the Democrat to win?”

Which Dimocrat?


10 posted on 03/20/2014 5:59:27 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: cotton1706

The article is flawed. Bevin is not close, nor will be. McConnell’s conservative rating though not the highest is still quite good, all issues included. We need to support the better choice for America, McConnell, not Grimes


11 posted on 03/20/2014 6:16:12 AM PDT by shuck and yall (if you ain't offended, you aint payin' attention)
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To: cotton1706
Our former leaders that we looked up to are now what we sometimes disdain as they have lost Reagan's vision, ergo Haley Barbour, Trent Lott, Newt on given days, Boenher, and Mitch, I am sure you can name others.

They didn't term limit themselves ( other than their affairs causing them to resign ).

I am sorry Mitch isn't cut out for what is needed, ditto that McCain, Hatch, Graham etc etc.

He is an ineffectual as a Bureaucratic Engineering Manager in the late 80's who would not or could not embrace the CAD-CAM-FEA revolution in his business unit. Like that Manager, it is time to retire and work on his golf swing.

12 posted on 03/20/2014 6:24:39 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: cotton1706
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WHO DOESN'T KNOW THIS ???

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13 posted on 03/20/2014 6:24:50 AM PDT by celmak
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To: shuck and yall

“McConnell’s conservative rating though not the highest is still quite good, all issues included. We need to support the better choice for America, McConnell, not Grimes”

Another one successfully fooled. McConnell votes carefully to maintain his conservative rating while he undermines conservatives in both the House and Senate behind the scenes. He has worked to pack the Senate with similar moderate or liberal types or has worked to protect those that are already there.

If McConnell were just a back-bencher with his record, I would support him. But he is a scheming, back-stabbing leader who assists the democrats.

If he is nominated, conservatives should leave their ballots blank to defeat him. If he is reelected, he should be removed as leader.


14 posted on 03/20/2014 6:40:21 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

If there will EVER BE A TIME to rid ourselves of RINOs—now is the TIME.

By not fighting this past year—Mitch has forfeited his place.


15 posted on 03/20/2014 6:59:53 AM PDT by Flintlock ( islam is a LIE, mohammed was a CRIMINAL, sharia is POISON.)
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To: cotton1706

so when Bevin withdraws gracefully and endorses McConnell over Grimes, is he your next RINO? How about Rand Paul, another RINO for endorsing Mitch? Insistence on a purity philosophy is dangerously close to the Progressive mind set, Haven’t the secular authoritarian tyrants insisted on purity? What of the religious tyrannies? If you aint for me you agin me? Did the US agree 100% with all their allies when they have defended freedom, or were there variances and sharp differences. Lets try our best to get our tea party people in, if it aint possible, lets regroup, support the best choice for the US, and keep praying


16 posted on 03/20/2014 7:02:37 AM PDT by shuck and yall (if you ain't offended, you aint payin' attention)
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To: cotton1706
If he is nominated, conservatives should leave their ballots blank to defeat him.

So you prefer dirty harry reid to turtle mitch?

Would you like to see another set of libs in all the courts over the next two years because you don't think mitch is pure enough?

I'm not crazy about mitch and have and will continue to donate to Matt Bevin {have you?} but since I'm in PA and can't vote for either, if mitch wins I'm pulling for him over dirty harry.

You and the other 50-75 fanatics here at FR continue to cut off your noses to spite MY FACE.

Grow up and face reality, you don't always get what you want, and you are too old to keep holding your breath and stomping your feet until I turn blue.

Here come the righteous purist flamers but I've been shot, stabbed, knocked out, beat to hell and back, jailed and I'm still here so whatever vitriol gets thrown around, it's just words.

Sticks and stones...

17 posted on 03/20/2014 7:09:00 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: shuck and yall

If Palin endorsed Bevin its a close race.


18 posted on 03/20/2014 7:10:34 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: shuck and yall
Who's insisting on purity? Hell, we just want someone who doesn't stab us in the back! Sheesh. McConnell hates you yet you still shill for him? And you wonder why nothing ever changes??
19 posted on 03/20/2014 7:18:29 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Usagi_yo

It is never better to have a Democrat in any seat or any elected office, PERIOD!


20 posted on 03/20/2014 7:20:06 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: shuck and yall

Oh, cut the crap with that “purity” nonsense. Purity is quite the popular word bubbling around lately. Yet I notice that it’s only a one way street.

There was nobody berating Dede Scozzafava when she endorsed the DEMOCRAT over the conservative when it became clear that she wouldn’t win her race for congress. There was no berating of Richard Lugar when he failed to endorse Richard Mourdock when or when Arlen Specter failed to endorse Rick Santorum or when Richard Lugar THIS YEAR endorsed the DEMOCRAT in Georgia or when John Warner THIS YEAR endorsed the DEMOCRAT in Virginia.

Oh, but when conservatives advocate the removal of an insidious, backstabbing, piss-poor leader, by any means necessary, we are given the purity speech. Please!

I don’t think Bevin should endorse McConnell if he loses the primary. And as for Paul, I know what he’s doing politically. He needs McConnell’s help to get that law changed in Kentucky so he can run for the presidency and for the senate. Unfortunately, he needs to play the game here and there to get ahead. He’s very shrewd.


21 posted on 03/20/2014 7:20:12 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: SharpRightTurn

The only Democrat in the race is Grimes. She has no primary opponent.


22 posted on 03/20/2014 7:22:35 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: USS Alaska; cotton1706
So you prefer dirty harry reid to turtle mitch?

False choice. Cotton prefers Bevin to both.

23 posted on 03/20/2014 7:24:45 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: USS Alaska

I’m not crazy about mitch and have and will continue to donate to Matt Bevin {have you?} but since I’m in PA and can’t vote for either, if mitch wins I’m pulling for him over dirty harry.

You and the other 50-75 fanatics here at FR continue to cut off your noses to spite MY FACE.

Grow up and face reality, you don’t always get what you want, and you are too old to keep holding your breath and stomping your feet until I turn blue.

Here come the righteous purist flamers but I’ve been shot, stabbed, knocked out, beat to hell and back, jailed and I’m still here so whatever vitriol gets thrown around, it’s just words.

Boy, the purity-shillers are all out today. Mitch McConnell is the republican leader. That’s why I support his removal. He needs to go but he won’t retire. If he succeeds in his primary, I advocate his defeat so that the republicans in the senate will have new leadership.

Newsflash!! McConnell has been ASSISTING Harry Reid for the past seven years! He has ceded all kinds of power in his numerous “handshake agreements” to the position of majority leader (because he thought he’s have all that power by now), to the detriment of the country. No bills are debated on the senate floor anymore. No amendments are allowed. Yet McConnell gets all upset when unanimous consents are denied. “oh don’t force us to actually vote and be held accountable, you’re forcing us to actually vote as we believe and we’ll ruin our carefully-crafted conservative record that we use to fool the people.”

I have been watching what McConnell’s been doing for a long time. And I’m not fooled by the “r” next to his name. He’s an insidious oligarch. And I advocate his removal from power because he is dangerous.


24 posted on 03/20/2014 7:29:23 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: smoothsailing

“The only Democrat in the race is Grimes. She has no primary opponent.”

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure you weren’t referring to McConnell.


25 posted on 03/20/2014 8:10:42 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

You’re welcome.


26 posted on 03/20/2014 8:17:48 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: 11th Commandment

Here’s all the polling according to RCP.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/senate/ky/kentucky_senate_republican_primary-3489.html

Bevin/Grimes poll avg. has Bevin up 0.6
McConnell/Grimes poll avg. has Grimes up 0.5

McConnell/Bevin poll avg. has McConnell up 31.7

The R/D matchups are a wash given the MOE’s
Bevin has 60 days to turn the primary around in his favor


27 posted on 03/20/2014 8:30:52 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Colonel_Flagg
False choice. Cotton prefers Bevin to both.

So do I and I donate to Matt, but if he loses the primary, it is NOT a false choice.

Faced with turtle mitch or the demonRAT bitch, Cotton advocates that conservatives sit it out, and I say that is nutz because it leads to dirty harry as the majority leader.

It's the reason {one of the reasons} that obummer won in 2012.

If any one equates Mitt Romney with obummer they too are nutz.

28 posted on 03/20/2014 8:47:49 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

“False choice. Cotton prefers Bevin to both.”

Thanks for the defense! I get so tired of this argument.


29 posted on 03/20/2014 9:09:53 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

It really is an equation that conservatives should remember.

“Business” does not exclusively mean “American businesses of, by and for patriotic Americans.” To a great extent, “business”, when used by these people, are multinational or international corporations, with no loyalty or patriotism to America *at all*.

They are strictly in it for their profit, and don’t care if the US goes up in a sheet of flame. This means that they want big government to “control the masses”, with standardized everything, so they, business, don’t have to do as much.

As far as they are concerned, Americans can live in barracks, be fed in mess halls, work all day for low wages, get government health care, and watch television unless they are sleeping. That is all. Nothing else will increase their bottom line, so they don’t want others to have it.

To Hell with them. And those politicians that have sold out to them.


30 posted on 03/20/2014 9:15:11 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: smoothsailing

I’d like to reiterate and expand my comments from previous threads on the current weird polls.

They are being driven by the mechanics of the current campaign. Where Grimes is beating up on McConnell, Bevins is beating up on McConnell and McConnell is beating up on Bevins and Grimes (in that order of priority and severity)

As a snapshot they make sense. But they are in no way indicative of what the polls will look like when this campaign (GOP primary) ends and the next one (general election) begins.

So any polling based argument in support of a candidate needs to show more than just what they are; it needs to show an analysis of why they’ll persist (or change) once the race solidifies to the GOP nominee vs Grimes.

I maintain that Bevins looks good in the polling vs Grimes now, because of the mechanics described above. But that he has substantial and possibly insurmountable weaknesses in a go it alone campaign against Grimes and the KY state Dem machine.


31 posted on 03/20/2014 9:39:12 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter
I’d like to reiterate and expand my comments from previous threads on the current weird polls.

Glad you did. Your assessment makes sense.

The advantage I see to using the RCP averages is that it irons out much of the "weirdness" of the polls by averaging them all together. It results in what is a larger sample size, which should convey a more accurate result.

32 posted on 03/20/2014 9:51:10 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

True. I think the polls, as a snapshot, are accurate and the circular “weirdness” of Bevins doing better against Grimes who is doing better against McConnell who is doing better than Bevins pretty explainable in that context.

Addressing an earlier comment by someone else about guys like Lugar and Warner turning traitor and endorsing Democrats, I’m appalled and repulsed by it. We duke it out in the primaries but then rally to the eventual nominee, knowing that there are still more Conservatives than GOPe/RINOs out there and a rising GOP tide will lift the boats of many good Conservatives like Cruz as well.

If there were some way to sanction vindictive little pr*cks like Lugar and Warner I’d be all for it.


33 posted on 03/20/2014 10:02:27 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: smoothsailing; All
I loathe Democrats as well. When I find out someone I know is a Democrat, I lose respect for them. However.....I truly believe that we are going to pick up 9 seats from the Dems and have the Senate Majority. We can afford to give Mitch up as the sacrificial lamb. We will still have the Majority and will be able to elect a NEW Majority Leader w/o Mitch thinking it is his by default.
34 posted on 03/20/2014 10:28:51 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: cotton1706

You’re welcome. I too tire of the argument, such as it is, that standing for conservative principles somehow means you support liberals.

I also tire of conservatives justifying their GOP-E vote as somehow voting “against” someone else. If these people feel they can define my vote, I’m certainly going to define theirs. A GOP-E vote is a vote to sustain everything that is wrong with today’s Republican Party.

Ted Cruz has it right: if you vote for something or someone, that means you support what you vote for. That kind of clear thinking tends to anger Republicans whose conservatism stops at the edge of their ballot.

Be well.


35 posted on 03/20/2014 10:30:00 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: shuck and yall

How about Rand Paul, another RINO for endorsing Mitch?
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Bingo! Rand Paul’s nephew is McConnell’s campaign manager. They are hoping Mitch will help Rand in his 2016 bid for the Presidency. Rand Paul has become a Washington, inside-the-Beltway, political whore. But, thank God, we still have a “TRUE” Conservative choice in Ted Cruz. As far as getting the backing of Conservatives in 2016, it’s like my daddy used to say: Rand Paul has pissed into the wind.


36 posted on 03/20/2014 10:37:20 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorse Mitch McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: smoothsailing

That’s not true. A Rino as an incumbent locks the seat up for many years — particularly Senators. They also (due to the nature of incumbancy) dissuade another Republican from running against them.

Look at Arlen Spectre’s career as an example.

“Arlen Specter (February 12, 1930 – October 14, 2012) was a United States Senator from Pennsylvania. Specter was a Democrat from 1951 to 1965, then a Republican from 1965 until 2009, when he switched back to the Democratic Party. First elected in 1980, he represented his state for 30 years in the Senate. Specter was a moderate who usually stayed in the political center.”

You want more of those or you want to give an honest conservative a shot at the seat?


37 posted on 03/20/2014 10:38:57 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: Din Maker
I'm opposed to ANY Democrat winning, and that includes Grimes. Whether Bevin or McConnell wins, I want Grimes to lose. It'll be up to the incoming Senate Republican Caucus to vote themselves a leader, regardless. I'd like to see Cruz get the job, but realistically I don't see that happening.
38 posted on 03/20/2014 10:46:27 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Usagi_yo
You want more of those or you want to give an honest conservative a shot at the seat?

Always support the most rightward viable conservative in every race. That's the Buckley Rule. In the Bevin/McConnell primary, Bevin is the choice.

In the General Election, Bevin is the choice in a Bevin/Grimes matchup.

In the General Election, McConnell is the choice in a McConnell/Grimes matchup.

In each of those three scenarios, the most rightward viable conservative wins.

Never vote for the Democrat, and never stay home and pout on Election Day because you don't like the Republican.

39 posted on 03/20/2014 10:59:34 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: USS Alaska; Colonel_Flagg

“Cotton advocates that conservatives sit it out, and I say that is nutz because it leads to dirty harry as the majority leader.”

Have you read much history of the republican party since the depression? For decades, the attitude of the republicans has been “all we have to do is get our guys the nomination. We can’t win without the conservatives so we’ll just spoon-feed them some stuff and they’ll vote for whoever has the “r” next to their name.”

Another dynamic has been the “lesser of two evils” argument. You used it yourself, “the democrat’s worse, so vote for the republican,” or “vote for the republican so we get control of the senate!”

This argument is always used with conservatives, that is, between a moderate or establishment republican and a democrat, the moderate or establishment candidate is the “lesser of two evils.”

But notice the point of view of the moderate or establishment types. To them, between a conservative and a democrat, the democrat is “the lesser of two evils.”

Again, I point to Dede Scozzafava, who endorsed the democrat over the conservative; Richard Lugar, who has endorsed the democrat in Georgia, who is apparently preferable to any of the conservatives running; John Warner, who would not endorse Oliver North in 1994 and who this year, endorsed the incumbent democrat over an ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN; Lisa Murkowski, who instead of endorsing the republican victor after the primary, ran an independent campaign with the help of democrats, who knew she would be better than Miller, a conservative; Arlen Specter, who with the help of Bush and Rove, convinced Rick Santorum to endorse him in 2004, and then in 2006 when Santorum was running, Specter refused to endorse Santorum. And on, and on.

I think McConnell knows he’s going to lose in November, and he sees his mission now is to prevent another conservative from getting into the senate (especially one to replace him). So it’s destroy, destroy, destroy!

I am done with rewarding with a vote who pretend to be conservative around election time. I left my ballot blank for US Senate in 2012 and thousands like me did the same and Scott Brown is not trying to get power in another state because he couldn’t be elected dog catcher here.

McConnell has openly and behind the scenes undermined and lambasted conservatives, but then he wants their vote every six years. He thinks they won’t remember his treachery. And he may be right. We’ll see. But I hope he’s removed from power this year one way or the other. Because either way, either in the minority or in the majority, republicans in the senate will have new leadership. And frankly, I think we will take the senate even if McConnell loses.


40 posted on 03/20/2014 11:02:43 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: USS Alaska; cotton1706
So do I and I donate to Matt

I'm glad to hear it. But what I would like to see is the GOP-E attempting to actually earn my vote instead of feeling they are entitled to it.

I've got something they want. If they want to earn it, they are welcome to try. That means running conservatives.

I would never stay home from an election, no responsible citizen would. I have voted in every election available to me since the age of 18. But I won't be taken for granted and I will not vote for people who are antithetical to what I believe, regardless of their party.

If they want my vote, they can try to earn it. I don't vote against. I vote for.

41 posted on 03/20/2014 11:08:52 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: smoothsailing

Well, you have your philosophy and I have mine. This election, if the choice is between Lindsey Graham and a Democrat, I’m voting democrat because I believe it’s the fastest way to grow true conservatives.


42 posted on 03/20/2014 11:32:31 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: cotton1706

You’ve laid it out exactly right; can’t disagree with anything you’ve said.

No more status quo for the GOPe. No more phony lesser of 2 evils.


43 posted on 03/20/2014 11:41:50 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: shuck and yall
We need to support the better choice for America, McConnell, not Grimes

If I lived in Kentucky I would consider whether a weak democrat is less damaging to the country than a powerful RINO.

Weak dim, easy choice for me.

44 posted on 03/20/2014 11:51:04 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for RINOs is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: shuck and yall
lets regroup, support the best choice for the US, and keep praying

False premiss McConnell is not the best choice, he might be if he did not have the leadership position within the party. If he resigned that position maybe he would be an acceptable compromise.

Voting for a RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.

45 posted on 03/20/2014 11:56:06 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: USS Alaska
So you prefer dirty harry reid to turtle mitch?

You presume that if Mitch loses we will lose the Senate, stuffit.

46 posted on 03/20/2014 11:57:38 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Usagi_yo
. This election, if the choice is between Lindsey Graham and a Democrat, I’m voting democrat because I believe it’s the fastest way to grow true conservatives.

Well, the way I figure it, voting for a Democrat grows the Democrat party.

Never voting for a Democrat and voting for the most rightward viable conservative candidate in EVERY race is the way to nurture and grow the conservative movement.

We disagree on strategy and tactics, but I trust we both want the same outcome, the most conservative Republican majority possible. In that, I hope we succeed.

47 posted on 03/20/2014 12:03:08 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Usagi_yo

I would classify you under the heading of damn fool. That is,
cutting off your nose to spite your face


48 posted on 03/20/2014 12:08:08 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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