Skip to comments.Federal State Is Only Solution for Ukraine – Lavrov
Posted on 03/20/2014 9:25:14 AM PDT by Heartlander2
MOSCOW, March 20 (RIA Novosti) Making Ukraine a federal state is the only way to stabilize situation in the country, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Thursday.
We want to understand, who exactly will represent legitimate authorities in Kiev. In this regard we have a proposal: first of all, a constitutional reform should be held, so that interests of all Ukrainian citizens and regions are respected. This is the only basis for forming legitimate authorities, legislative and executive, central and regional, Lavrov told members of the lower chamber of the Russian parliament.
And we are convinced that the situation in the country can be stabilized only through making Ukraine a federal state, he continued.
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National Bolshevism on the march.
I can’t say I disagree that Federalism would help, but then they must do a better job than us in respecting their individual states’ rights and protect from central federalism.
How will the Putinistas spin this demand? Legitimate sphere of influence? Striking out against the neo Nazis? Protecting Russian speakers? Historically Ukraine is a part of Russia?
To me this is a case of naked aggression against people who want their freedom from corruption and Russian domination. Next up is Estonia.
Ukraine as a Federal state (under Russian rule)...
Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic....
East Ukrainians are not going to live under a Banderist neo-Nazi regime issuing orders from Kiev. The only way the nation stays together is with regional autonomy and respect for minorities and languages.
The acting prime minister of Ukraine is a Jew. This must be the first neo-Nazi regime in history with a JEWISH PM.
Looks like PUtin is trying to establish the “Greater East-Europe Co-Prosperity Sphere”.
That’s how it worked in the former Czechoslovakia.
And in the end, they got a “Velvet Divorce”.
On the surface, it’s not a bad idea. Of course the reality may be totally different.
So he's a Kapo.
That's a joke, son.
I believe this coup group is the same as the 2004 revolution which I think is called the orange revolution. New elections were right around the corner. They must have thought they could never get elected...hence...the coup.
So he’s a Kapo.
I should have known! Those crafty banderistas!
The regime in Chicago beat them to it.
You can call it whatever you want, but unless you got a plan to invade a nation 9 time-zones long, defeat their military, overthrow their government to liberate a peninsula.
(Without getting most of the western world nuked to hell)
Then you are just spouting off online. This is now a long-game like eastern Europe 1945-1991. This isnt going to be “won” with anyone we have now. The people that will outsmart the Ruskies this time are currently in high school.
“East Ukrainians are not going to live under a Banderist neo-Nazi regime issuing orders from Kiev. The only way the nation stays together is with regional autonomy and respect for minorities and languages.”
Unless someone confronts Putin with some meaningful costs to his aggression, he’s going to end up in charge. We can put anti missile installations in Poland, Turkey, etc. and stop degrading our military, building it up instead. We can have joint military exercises with allies in the area. Putin can gain economically from his conquests as now the sanctions are laughable. Why can’t we supply fuels to Europe?
As things now stand, the human costs to non Russians will be extreme. You can go back to your hero worship of the strongman and wish we had someone like him. Most Americans don’t give a damn about our Constitution as it seem to limit a strong leader (as was intended).
Remaining part of Ukraine was not a ballot option. Which means Russia is either misdirecting us or changed it’s position from total acquisition.
The so-called neo-nazis got about 8.5% of the vote in the last election, hardly close to a majority
“You can go back to your hero worship of the strongman and wish we had someone like him.”
Ok, you guys seriously need to loose this line.
Sorry, but I dont have a side. I’m not rallying around Obama if that’s what I’m automatically assumed to do.
Putin may be a opportunistic d*ck, but we put up a complete tool on our side of the board. So what am I supposed to do? Be indignant because our adversary actually acts like an adversary? The only people that are shocked and “angry” are those that weren’t paying attention. Limbaugh said it best for years:
“The world is governed by the aggressive use of force”
Rush knew it, Thatcher knew it, Reagan knew it, Palin and even Romney got it.
I personally respect (or however it’s spelled these days) people that understand that. Not LIKE, but respect. Because that is how the world has worked FOREVER. This game of nations didnt just end because people on Twitter will say mean stuff about it.
As the kids say “hate the player, not the game”. Putin gamed us good. That’s just the sad reality. Pouting and accusing people here of being on Vlad’s side isnt going to do anything. Expecting a mass outrage from conservatives is not going to happen because it’s wasted on a leadership (the “” around leadership are too big to fit on this page) that isnt up to it. So most of us are just sitting back and watching the train wreck, because what else can we do?
Yeah .... it's half-past 1937 all over again.
Should we appeal to the Locarno Powers? The League of Nations?
Some of the people on this board are cheering for Putin, methinks.
Who cares what form of organization Russia wants for Ukraine? Federal republic, presidential republic or a monarchy. It’s a decision for Ukraine to make, Russia is to mind it’s own business.
Ukraine has only the rights it's prepared to fight for. As Thucydides once wrote:
Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.