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American Medical Association: Obamacare sticks doctors with unpaid bills
Daily Caller ^ | Mardch 19, 2014 | Sarah Hurtubise

Posted on 03/20/2014 10:11:18 AM PDT by grundle

The American Medical Association is protesting an Obamacare provision it argues will leave doctors with the bill for up to two months of unpaid care.

The provision requires insurers to allow patients with federally-subsidized health insurance plans a 90-day grace period to pay their premiums before canceling the coverage. Insurers are on the hook for the first 30 days of care, if the customer never pays up, but doctors will be stuck without payment for any services between 30 and 90 days, until the coverage is canceled.

The American Medical Association was a strong supporter of Obamacare.

“If a patient is being treated for a serious illness, that requires ongoing care,” Dr. Ardis Dee Hoven, president of the AMA, said in a press release Wednesday. “The physician is having to assume the financial risk for this. That’s the bottom line.”

The AMA released new resources Wednesday for its member physicians, offering “step-by-step help for minimizing risk,” while admitting that the Obamacare rule “could pose a significant financial risk for medical practices.”

The doctors’ association spent $22 million lobbying for Obamacare to pass in 2010, the most of any health care organization, and has kept up their spending in the years since while the law’s final regulations have been tinkered with.

The rule’s damaging effect on doctors — especially those with private practices — exemplifies the split between the AMA’s lobbying ambitions and the outlook of the average doctors that do the work.

After Obamacare’s passage, just 13 percent of American physicians agreed with the AMA’s support of the law, according to a survey from physician recruitment firm Jackson & Coker. Surveys have repeatedly found that doctors don’t believe the law will let them help patients and make a living.

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1 posted on 03/20/2014 10:11:18 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Doctor’s are being set up to be the fall guys...


2 posted on 03/20/2014 10:12:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: grundle

Why would ANY doctor or insurance person hook up with this snake? Why would anyone think he’d do right by them?

Stockholm Syndrome? LOL! Idiots.


3 posted on 03/20/2014 10:13:37 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: grundle

Tuesday, November 4, 2014... Be There

this is all adding up to become on huge burden for the democrax isn’t it.

Thank you


4 posted on 03/20/2014 10:13:37 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Spreading Peace and Luv Since...1960 something)
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To: grundle

Wahh. Didn’t the AMA endorse Obamacare?

There is this interview out there, of the AMA president as of July 2013...Ardis Hoven, the new president of the American Medical Association, told me, in an interview conducted for C-Span’s Newsmakers, that her group has been in talks with the Obama administration and will do “whatever we can in our power” to promote Obamacare.

So,, suck it AMA!


5 posted on 03/20/2014 10:13:43 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: grundle

Someone should explain to the AMA, or rather all of it’s members, that the right time to protest the contents of a bill that needs to pass in order to learn what’s in it is BEFORE it passes.


6 posted on 03/20/2014 10:14:03 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: GOPJ

“Doctor’s are being set up to be the fall guys...”

Oh, puleeez-—the AMA was one of obama’s biggest a$$ kissers in the lead up to passage. They got what they wanted.(or didn’t want since they believed the LIAR in chief)


7 posted on 03/20/2014 10:15:34 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: grundle
Flashback:

AMA endorses Senate healthcare reform bill

Affordable Care Act Supreme Court Decision Welcomed By American Medical Association

8 posted on 03/20/2014 10:17:57 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: grundle

AMA drones should have thought of this when they were supporting Mocha Man and his POS legislation.....


9 posted on 03/20/2014 10:18:10 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: grundle

Maybe the AMA will begin lobbying the Senate to get rid of Obamacare and all its creators and supporters...


10 posted on 03/20/2014 10:21:39 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: grundle

“The American Medical Association has just sent a letter to Charlie Rangel enthusiastically endorsing the House Democratic health care bill, and urging”

You just can’t make this stuff up.


11 posted on 03/20/2014 10:22:12 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: GOPJ

“Doctor’s are being set up to be the fall guys...”

Certainly not a new approach by this administration.


12 posted on 03/20/2014 10:22:28 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: grundle; Lucky9teen; Jane Long; onyx

Yesterday Holder’s DOJ slapped a one billion dollar fine on TOYOTA for “making concealing and misleading statements” about the accelerator problems that some of Toyota’s autos were having, awhile back.

If the same DOJ standard was applied to the Obamanation Administration, what should the fine be?

Millions of Insurance harmed Americans want to know.


13 posted on 03/20/2014 10:22:42 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: tanknetter
Someone should explain to the AMA, or rather all of it’s members, that the right time to protest the contents of a bill that needs to pass in order to learn what’s in it is BEFORE it passes...

We have to pass it to find out what's in it...

Another doctor pointed out that's the working definition of a stool sample.

Methinks some of these doctors aren't too bright...

14 posted on 03/20/2014 10:24:14 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: freeangel
“Oh, puleeez-—the AMA was one of obama’s biggest a$$ kissers in the lead up to passage.”

The AMA is a political organization, the leadership of which includes many who never or seldom see patients. They are in no way representative of US doctors.

15 posted on 03/20/2014 10:24:54 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: grundle

Dear AMA,

You wanted it, now you can choke on it. We all foretold of the continual messes we are seeing, but you figured you would remain part of the favored elite class.

I hope your entire membership considers cutting their expenses by not paying you dues.


16 posted on 03/20/2014 10:26:56 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
AMA... CHOKE on it!
17 posted on 03/20/2014 10:26:59 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: gogeo

Many of the local chapters opposed the bill but the national board supported it.

My wife’s cousin is a past president of the dc chapter. He did work for two gop members of the house in analyzing the bill.

He and others actively opposed the bill and spoke against it to national AMA board members. To no avail.


18 posted on 03/20/2014 10:28:24 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: grundle

Doctors who failed to resign from the AMA at or before the start of their pro-ObamaCare lobbying get no sympathy from me. The AMA pushed this atrocity on decent people because it would increase the power of AMA leaders at the expense of real doctors, real patients, and other real Americans, and doctors who otherwise prefer to coast through the political aspect of their lives had a moral obligation to remove themselves from the AMA immediately. They even took an Oath to do so: “First, do no harm.”


19 posted on 03/20/2014 10:32:48 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: grundle

This should encourage doctors to give nice cash discounts.


20 posted on 03/20/2014 10:45:26 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: hal ogen

Why did Perot run against Bush? His company was a huge Medicare computer services provider and Clinton’s health plan would have been a boon. Why did AMA support Obamacare? They own the medical codes used for billing by insurance companies and the government, and stand to make billions on expanded use of those codes.


21 posted on 03/20/2014 11:04:54 AM PDT by vrwconspiracist (The Tax Man cometh)
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To: grundle
If you don't mid the hassle can you get perpetual obamacare for free by signing ưp and not paying the bill then signing up again at the end of the "grace period?"
22 posted on 03/20/2014 11:11:06 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: grundle
Most drs. do not belong to the AMA, so this sounds like a much larger endorsement than it was. The same for lawyers. Most do not belong to the bar assn. that supports Dems. We have a dr. and a lawyer in the family. They argue all the time (the lawyer knows everything and is glad to tell everyone so), but neither supports Obama.

Unfortunately, this provision hurts the non-supporting drs. as well as the ones who supported him.If only the supporting AMA drs. were hurt, one could sit back and laugh; however, this provision will impact all drs. and ultimately affect patient care for the worse.

vaudine

23 posted on 03/20/2014 11:21:58 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Pollster1

“..a moral obligation to remove themselves from the AMA immediately.”

Never joined.


24 posted on 03/20/2014 11:24:45 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: hal ogen

AMA... CHOKE on it!
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Amen -— Nothing like seeing collectivists and their cronies choke on their own vomit!


25 posted on 03/20/2014 11:28:10 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Less than 15% of the AMA are practicing doctors...


26 posted on 03/20/2014 11:42:48 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Never joined.

All the better. But those who made that mistake need to fix it when the offense becomes glaring - as it did with AMA's support for ObamaCare.

27 posted on 03/20/2014 12:27:38 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: freeangel
“Doctor’s are being set up to be the fall guys...”

Oh, puleeez-—the AMA was one of obama’s biggest a$$ kissers in the lead up to passage. They got what they wanted.(or didn’t want since they believed the LIAR in chief)

The AMA represents only about 20% of physicians. Most doctors did not support Obamacare.

28 posted on 03/20/2014 12:56:20 PM PDT by SC DOC
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The American Medical Association is basically a high class union...


29 posted on 03/20/2014 1:30:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: freeangel

The American Medical Association is basically a union. Very few doctors agree with their stance on this issue.


30 posted on 03/20/2014 1:31:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: freeangel

Everyday Unions backed Obamacare too - the rank and file? Not so much. Same with the AMA union...


31 posted on 03/20/2014 1:32:52 PM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: Born to Conserve

How is a $200 office visit for $75 sound? I know someone that got that deal last week.


32 posted on 03/20/2014 2:17:43 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Tammy8

is = does


33 posted on 03/20/2014 2:21:31 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: SC DOC

“The AMA represents only about 20% of physicians. Most doctors did not support Obamacare. “

In that case, where’s the organization and lobby that supports the other 80%?


34 posted on 03/20/2014 4:32:40 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks grundle.


35 posted on 03/20/2014 7:31:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: freeangel
“The AMA represents only about 20% of physicians. Most doctors did not support Obamacare. “

In that case, where’s the organization and lobby that supports the other 80%?

Unfortunately there is no national organization that represents the other 80% as doctors are too busy and not smart enough to effectively lobby, particularly aginst the AMA who gets most of its funding from the government.

Who does the AMA Really Represent?

What Do Actual Doctors Think About Obamacare Now?

36 posted on 03/21/2014 6:12:54 AM PDT by SC DOC
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