Skip to comments.Democrats Oppose Article V State Amendment Convention in FL Senate Rules Committee Vote
Posted on 03/20/2014 3:17:52 PM PDT by Jacquerie
Today, Florida took another step toward reclaiming federal powers foolishly given away in 1913.
The Senate Rules Committee passed by 8-5, the following resolution:
Amendments to the Constitution of the United States; Applying to Congress to call a convention for the sole purpose of proposing amendments to the Constitution of the United States which impose fiscal restraints on the Federal Government, limit the power and jurisdiction of the Federal Government, and limit the terms of office for federal officials and members of Congress.
Every Republican voted yea, every Democrat nay.
It makes perfect sense. The Left owns Rome-on-the-Potomac and can gain nothing from amending the constitution they soil every day. Patriots have nothing to lose, and everything to gain from a state amendment convention.
I guess the democRats don’t believe their own propaganda!
"state amendment proposal convention."
Yes, Justice John Bingham's official clarification of Congress's limited power to lay taxes needs to be enumerated into the Constitution.
... limit the power and jurisdiction of the Federal Government, and limit the terms of office for federal officials and members of Congress.Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States. Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
The Founding States had made the Constitution's Section 8 of Article I to deliberately limit (cripple) Congress's powers. So what's the new amendment supposed to do besides say "See Section 8 of Article I?"
Also, although I will support a term limits amendment, if patriots stop the tsunami of constitutionally indefensible federal taxes then nobody is going to want to be a member of Congress anyway imo.
What we need is an amendment which allows states to recall bad-apple members of Congress with a provision to allow 2/3 of all state legislatures to recall bad-apple members of a given state.
The ill-conceived Progressive Movement 16th Amendment needs to be repealed too.
There IS something for leftists in state government to gain by supporting the COS effort. Term limits.
With all the 'Rat congresscritters that have life terms, and beyond... it seems to me that 'Rat state reps/sinators can be gung-ho to get their upper-classmates regular Washington DC departures to make room for the lower classmen.
We need an amendment that gives 3/4 of the state legislatures the power to recall or impeach activist justices since corrupt Congress cannot be expected to do the job.
If by state amendment convention you mean a Constitutional Convention, that's not completely true. The last Constitutional Convention in 1787 was a runaway and produced our current constitution. Which is different than the constitution ratified from the Articles of Confederation. In more ways than just the Bill of Rights.
We could end up having an amendment to the US Constitution that negates the 2nd or the 4th.
Be careful what you wish for. You might get it.
I suspect that the 5 Democrats who opposed resolution don't understand that Congress has been stealing state revenues from Florida in the form of constitutionally indefensible federal taxes.
Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States. Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
> “If by state amendment convention you mean a Constitutional Convention, “
That’s not at all what we mean. If we meant that, we would say that.
There has only been one Constitutional Convention, and we have a Constitution as a result. It would defy logic to call for another one, plus it would be unconstitutional, since nowhere in that sacred document is one even contemplated.
When we make a reference to “An Article V Convention of States to Propose Amendments to the Constitution,” what we’re actually talking about is an Article V Convention of States to Propose Amendments to the Constitution, as authorized by Article V. Check it out.
I hope that answers your question.
I hope lots of pro Article V convention legislators are elected in November!
Awesome!!! Congratulations to the Patriots of Georgia, the last of the original 13, from the Patriots of Arizona, the last of the contiguous 48!
The idea was that if 3/4's of the state legislatures passed a resolution of no confidence in the federal government, that government would be dissolved. New elections for the House, all Senate seats, the President and Vice President would be called 60 days after the resolution received the requisite number of votes. No incumbent would be permitted to serve in office again.
Following the election, the entire federal judiciary at all levels would be fired, and the new government would fill the federal bench with all new appointees.
I'd like to see an amendment like that.
The timing is interesting here, in that just after the 2014 mid-terms, I imagine that other states will start to join in, leading up to the 2016 presidential race. With a far more conservative Republican congress, and hopefully a Republican president, an Article V convention in 2017 would be far more likely.
Fair warning, security for such a convention will have to be ridiculously tight, because there will be a legion of lobbyists, terrorists, spies, scoundrels, billionaires, Wall Street speculators, insane people, you name it, trying to force their way in.
The delegates will almost have to be sequestered to protect them and their families. All communications to and from the convention will have to be air tight, possibly even carried by couriers, kept out of the view of all who would spy on it. It should be limited to messages to and from the state legislatures, which should be open to inspection after receipt.
The US military should only be used for the “outer ring” of security, with security personnel in the interior rings sworn to defend the *convention*.
Seriously, security for this is going to have to be intensely paranoid, as not just the future of the United States is at stake, but the future of the entire world.
If at all possible, an enabling law should be passed making interference with the convention in any way a major felony, and authorizing the use of deadly force in all sorts of circumstances. If there is a major assault, or detected espionage, the convention may need to sit as a jury, whose decisions cannot be excused, commuted or pardoned.
the dems know exactly what is going to happen to them with an article 5 convention.
The 2nd amendment would simply be “rewritten” to mak it meangingless. Nothing to lose my ass. Liberals are just going to do nothing while conservatives make the current constitution (that is ignored by liberals) more conservative? Yeah uh huh.
I think the primary resistance will be of the back door, out of sight variety sort of pressure on individual state legislators. The rats fear a state amendment convention, for it could be the real beginning of the end to their power.
There is no evil they will shrink from to derail return to a FreeRepublic.