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Angela Merkel declares G8 defunct; Europe scrambles to replace Russian gas
Hotair ^ | 03/20/2013 | Bruce McQuain

Posted on 03/20/2014 7:18:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: 1rudeboy
The DOE must approve LNG applications, and it sits on them.

How many is it sitting on currently?

51 posted on 03/21/2014 6:47:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
As of March 18th, and according to Heritage, over twenty.
52 posted on 03/21/2014 6:50:18 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SeekAndFind
“Russia is widely isolated"

Very widely indeed; with ONLY two allies "left": India and China, and two oceans and four seas at its disposal. Boo-hoo-hoo, such "isolation"


53 posted on 03/21/2014 6:58:41 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

Russia, for all its “non-isolation,” does appear to have a severe case of geopolitical penis envy.


54 posted on 03/21/2014 7:00:07 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Marguerite

Putin Prepares To Announce “Holy Grail” Gas Deal With China

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-21/petrodollar-alert-isolated-west-putin-prepares-announce-holy-grail-gas-deal-china


55 posted on 03/21/2014 7:03:08 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: meatloaf

State-owned Russian gas firm Gazprom hopes to pump 38 billion cubic meters (bcm) of natural gas per year to China from 2018 via the first pipeline between the world’s largest producer of conventional gas to the largest consumer.

“May is in our plans,” a Gazprom spokesman said, when asked about the timing of an agreement. A company source said: “It would be logical to expect the deal during Putin’s visit to China.”


56 posted on 03/21/2014 7:05:08 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Marguerite

India is an ally of Russia? When did that happen?


57 posted on 03/21/2014 7:08:17 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Call it an uneasy alliance.

http://thediplomat.com/2014/03/india-will-not-support-western-sanctions-against-russia/


58 posted on 03/21/2014 7:12:58 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: 1rudeboy

OK so it’s not that the DOE is preventing any LNG processing centers from being built, it’s sitting on export applications from countries who do not have free trade agreements with us. So the simple solution would be for those countries to drop their trade barriers and we can export LNG to them since, as the story mentions, export approval to countries with free trade agreements is automatic.


59 posted on 03/21/2014 7:16:39 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: listenhillary
From 2018. Good luck with that. May have some competition especially if the Chinese balloon pops as expected. Map shows shale plays worldwide including China. the nice thing about having wells in your own country is getting the liquids like butane, propane, pentanes and ethane used to make polyethylene.
60 posted on 03/21/2014 7:20:06 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: meatloaf

Well, I was including the time for the governments to talk it over, and the regulators to decide if it was permissable, and the greenies to stop protesting, and the courts to approve, and so on.


61 posted on 03/21/2014 8:25:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Whole lot of foot dragging.


62 posted on 03/21/2014 8:42:22 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: DoodleDawg

No, the DOE is sitting on export applications from companies located in the U.S. And your solution is not simple at all, since it takes years to sign a FTA with anyone.


63 posted on 03/21/2014 9:07:07 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
No, the DOE is sitting on export applications from companies located in the U.S. And your solution is not simple at all, since it takes years to sign a FTA with anyone.

I'm just going by what your story said. The DOE is sitting on exports to countries that have erected trade barriers against us. No barriers, no holdups. As for the time it takes to remove those barriers, I would say that's up to the country who wants our LNG. It's their actions that are the impediment, not our's. If they want our imports that much then they can change their trade policy in other areas and smooth the way.

64 posted on 03/21/2014 9:58:07 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Again, in order for your “simple” solution to happen, years of negotiation must take place. Failing that, a law written in 1938 must be repealed. Good luck with that.


65 posted on 03/21/2014 10:00:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Then I guess the don’t want our LNG that badly after all.


66 posted on 03/21/2014 10:08:39 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: meatloaf

I still think Putin will pull out of this and oil will stabilize.....

Brussels Summit ...Clearly Eu?Nato is not going to do more than arm, possibly, Ukraine..and Nato admitance is off the table....Prime Minister even announced not in Ukraine’s interest. Ukraine’s financial picture is bleak at best and the EU will not close financial aid deal until a new government is in place and operating effeciently. So they are basically on their own.

Further..Brussels discussions allude to Wales EU summit ahead which would change how nations are admitted into the Nato....Poll taken at meeting 52% voted for ONLY supporting defense to countries which are Nato Members...out of four options presented.

Meanwhile while they’re trying to determine how to approach Russia’s advances....general opinion is they can do very little...Further recognizing the obvious that the USA will not be part of further crisis’s is generally understood now at Nato..as Obama has demonstrated.... as has been known in the past by other Us Presidents.

... Countries who have not been building defenses because they’ve depended on USA, will have to depend on NAto...thus Nato intends to increase defense spending via EU...which neither has a good relationship between them.

So...Nobody will be going to war for Crimea or Ukraine as it stands now.....Putin knows this and what Obama does in sanctions will end shortly...Putin knows this as well.

Basically this is posturing for the USA...further today Russia announced it will no longer play tit for tat with the US on sanctions.

This is all a done deal and news about is simply for consumer consumption.


67 posted on 03/21/2014 11:37:24 AM PDT by caww
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To: meatloaf

I understand that shipping gas overseas is a painstaking ordeal and far more difficult and costly then understood by most. perhaps what would be accomplished is not so much a lesser price to Europe and Japan...but less dependence on Russia worth the risk of shipping.

Regardless Putin will not lay down his lust for Oil and resources to and from other nations...He knows “Pipelines” hard wire political relationships and link countries....which give him leverage we see playing out now.

As is known, and Putin himself stated....”Whoever controls production, distribution and pricing of oil controls power.”


68 posted on 03/21/2014 11:52:33 AM PDT by caww
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To: meatloaf

I understand that shipping gas overseas is a painstaking ordeal and far more difficult and costly then understood by most. perhaps what would be accomplished is not so much a lesser price to Europe and Japan...but less dependence on Russia worth the risk of shipping.

Regardless Putin will not lay down his lust for Oil and resources to and from other nations...He knows “Pipelines” hard wire political relationships and link countries....which give him leverage we see playing out now.

As is known, and Putin himself stated....”Whoever controls production, distribution and pricing of oil controls power.”


69 posted on 03/21/2014 11:52:33 AM PDT by caww
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To: meatloaf

And raise the cost of home heating and electricity for Americans.


70 posted on 03/21/2014 11:53:51 AM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: SeekAndFind


71 posted on 03/21/2014 11:56:46 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: SeekAndFind

The solution or at least partial solution is to return Syria to French Hegemony intirm government and allow the saudi and other gulf states pipelines to cross the Med to Greece.

Voila..... dependence on Russia gone


72 posted on 03/21/2014 12:00:11 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Monmouth78

That’s only of you live in a state that was stupid enough to expose its residents to deregulation. Utilities here in WV are still regulated. The issue is that many drillers are no longer drilling in areas with mostly dry gas. The price of natural gas is so low that the owners can only make money on the liquids they get along with the gas.

Bumping up the price of methane up a bit will unleash more drilling resulting in ... lower prices again.


73 posted on 03/21/2014 1:12:48 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: Cicero

While the media kinda sticks to their agenda stories...you need to gaze over toward Norway. They have a pretty good production capability of oil and natural gas. Some business reports indicate that they are more than capable of expanding the natural gas production quickly....and taking up the slack. I’m guessing that Merkel knows this. Now...could they ramp up double what they are doing today...by October? That....I’m not sure of...and the Norwegians are probably not that sure. But, if I were a Russian billionaire who has enjoyed the rich life and millions that roll in monthly...I really wouldn’t want to see my production level go to zero. I’d be fairly upset.


74 posted on 03/22/2014 2:44:25 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: workerbee

“If we end up supplying the Euros with gas, they better be forced to pay a very pretty penny for it.”
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Don’t hold your breath until that happens, The gov. will just give the stuff to them.


75 posted on 03/22/2014 6:52:57 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
http://www.amazon.com/The-War-World-Twentieth-Century-Conflict/dp/0143112392
76 posted on 03/26/2014 8:43:22 AM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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