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Itís time to stop Putin
The Washington Post ^ | March 20, 2014 | Garry Kasparov

Posted on 03/21/2014 3:08:38 AM PDT by No One Special

When Vladi­mir Putin formally annexed Crimea this week, he acted in defiance of the predictions of many pundits, politicians and so-called experts. Perhaps Putin was not impressed by their sound reasoning and elegant discourse on how his invasion and annexation threatened Russia’s interests. But the main problem with the West’s “Putin would never” arguments is that they assume Putin and his ruling elite care about Russian national interests. They do not,

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The next obstacle to stopping Putin is the self-imposed paralysis of the leaders of Europe and the Group of Seven. It is easier for them to say that there is nothing they can do to check Putin’s ambitions than to admit that they lack the courage to act. Putin keeps raising the stakes, and the West just keeps folding. There are plenty of levers available to apply pressure on Putin, but they require confronting several hard truths.

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The first hard truth is that the only sanctions or other measures that would affect Putin’s conduct are those that, directly or indirectly, would target his hold on power. That is all Putin cares about, because he knows what happens when people in his position lose that grip.

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The second hard truth is that there is no dealing with Putin, no mutually beneficial business as usual. He exploits every opening and feels no obligation to operate by the rule of law or human rights in or outside of Russia.

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If existing laws are inadequate to deal with billionaire thugs who enable a dangerous regime, write new ones. And do all this quickly, because the price to remove Putin goes up with every delay. Eventually, that price will be paid not just in the cash Western countries are afraid to lose but also in human lives.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: garrykasparov; nwovsrussia; putin; russia; ukraine

1 posted on 03/21/2014 3:08:38 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: No One Special

Oh, please.

Where’s the Excedrin Headache 107 guy when we need him?


2 posted on 03/21/2014 3:10:02 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: No One Special

Hello - is the writer confused? Sounds like OBAMA. It’s time to stop HIM!!!!! Take care of things HERE first.


3 posted on 03/21/2014 3:11:55 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: No One Special

Neo-Cons trying to get the US to rally around the ruling elites!


4 posted on 03/21/2014 3:13:35 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: No One Special

For the next thirty-odd months....there’s nothing much to challenge Putin, and he knows it. The idiots at the Noble Prize Bureau had this dim idea that peace was near at hand, and awarded their beloved prize on nothing. Now?

If the US simply opened the ballistic missile defense option, and said it’d have one in place and operational in 100 days...it’d cause some reflection. The next day? Opt for a US deployment of a dozen naval vessels to be permanently based in the Black Sea and ported out of Romania. The third day....start letting the cyber guys grab billionaire Russian funds. The fourth day....announce natural gas sales via US produced companies....discounted less than what the Russians can deliver. By the fifth day.....we ban all US congressmen and Senators from traveling into Russia...for any reason (lose your passport for a year if you try it). Somewhere around the tenth day...someone will tell Putin from his inner staff...that this is a severe pain and there needs to be some end to the whole game.


5 posted on 03/21/2014 3:15:56 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: No One Special
But the main problem with the West’s “Putin would never” arguments is that they assume Putin and his ruling elite care about Russian national interests. They do not,

A far bigger problem: Commentators and liberal voters assume Obama and his ruling elite care about American national interests. They do not.

6 posted on 03/21/2014 3:28:02 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: No One Special

Sorry, the method to stop Putin is amazingly simple.

But, President Obama and European leaders will not take the simple steps necessary because it destroys their own beliefs and agenda.

So, the people of Europe will suffer. The leaders will not suffer, even if Putin takes half of Eastern Europe over.

What is this simple solution?

Hydrocarbons

Drill, frack, liquefy and export.

Russia is a hydrocarbon-driven economy. But their costs of extraction are very high compared to US producers.

So, open up for drilling, open up pipelines, allow export of oil, natural gas and LNG.

Overnight, the price of oil will collapse and Putin will withdraw or face an economic nightmare.....a repeat of the Soviet collapse.

In the process, US consumers and European citizens will benefit from lower prices, more stable supply and healthier economies.

But, that would betray the green agenda and anti-hydrocarbon foundation of Obama and European leaders....so citizens will suffer.


7 posted on 03/21/2014 3:33:16 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: fivecatsandadog
Hello - is the writer confused? Sounds like OBAMA. It’s time to stop HIM!!!!!

Intentional or not, it does strike me as a case of Kasparov merely helping the DC pot call the Kremlin kettle black. ("That's racist!")

Maybe I'd be less cynical if the WaPo dared to hold their own authoritarian thug accountable.

Mr. niteowl77

8 posted on 03/21/2014 3:59:28 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("Why do we go to Iowa? Because that's where the suckers are.")
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To: No One Special

Bump


9 posted on 03/21/2014 4:00:52 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: No One Special

We can’t even stop the anti American despots in our own government.


10 posted on 03/21/2014 4:10:58 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: No One Special

They can’t stop Putin because the rest of the world leaders are cowards.


11 posted on 03/21/2014 4:13:50 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Exactly, this pseudo outrage is just a distraction, just life Syria was supposed to be. Our masters are trying to get the Tea Parties back in line before they upset the cart.


12 posted on 03/21/2014 4:15:03 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: No One Special


13 posted on 03/21/2014 4:16:55 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: No One Special

Saber Rattlers

Are the elites at the Washington Post now ready to send their sons and daughters into the meat grinder of war?

America’s liberal press and the pmpous asses in western Europe are determined to start WWIII.


14 posted on 03/21/2014 4:43:42 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: Iron Munro
Are the elites at the Washington Post now ready to send their sons and daughters into the meat grinder of war?

The elites - not just at the Washington Post - are ready to send American sons and daughters into the meat grinder of war.

Just not their sons and daughters. Their sons and daughters go to ivy league schools so they can eventually send other people' sons and daughters into the meat grinder of war. (And/or the food processor of statism.)

Mr. niteowl77

15 posted on 03/21/2014 5:00:49 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("Why do we go to Iowa? Because that's where the suckers are.")
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To: pepsionice

And on the eleventh day, Crimea would be forced back into an unwanted union with Ukraine, which is currently in political and economic chaos.

Sounds like a great bargain.

If a majority in Crimea wants to join Russia - and 60% are Russian - why should the USA threaten war to stop them?


16 posted on 03/21/2014 5:03:31 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: No One Special
It’s time to stop Putin

Then first, we have to stop Obama.

17 posted on 03/21/2014 5:07:11 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: No One Special

The fallacious assumption is that Putin needs stopping. He is going about his business of saving Mother Russia from the pernicious decay rotting the country away.

Putin is merely doing his job.

The reality is that there is little to nothing that can be done.


18 posted on 03/21/2014 5:11:31 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: pepsionice

If Putin took over Norway and awarded himself the Peace Prize he would have more legitimacy than Obama.


19 posted on 03/21/2014 5:19:55 AM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: No One Special
If existing laws are inadequate to deal with billionaire thugs who enable a dangerous regime, write new ones.

oh I like that idea, but not for the reason that the ComPost intended...

20 posted on 03/21/2014 5:28:14 AM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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To: palmer

Given a choice of the Noble Peace Prize or the NFL Player of the Year...I think Putin would choose the latter. If we could only get twelve Russian billionaires to buy NFL teams....we could get this all to work out. We could even bring Putin in to quarterback the Cowboys (they need a guy like him).


21 posted on 03/21/2014 5:29:45 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Erik Latranyi

“But, that would betray the green agenda and anti-hydrocarbon foundation of Obama and European leaders....so citizens will suffer.”

Britain is sitting on at least 100 years of natural gas reserves right in its backyard.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2335163/Britains-new-Eldorado-Map-shows-massive-gas-deposits-self-sufficient-years.html

The country has an insane programme to cut back on carbon emissions by using expensive subsidized alternative energy schemes like solar and wind farms. The scheme is driving up energy costs to levels that the ordinary Brit can no longer afford.

In addition, a goodly number of Britons are so brainwashed by the eco-fascist propaganda machine that they believe that fraking causes earthquakes, polluted water and probably hemorhoids, too.

BTW, the European continent is sitting on 150 years of coal reserves.


22 posted on 03/21/2014 7:06:40 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Here’s more data from BBC:

I’ll paraphrase since I don’t know if we can post from BBC.

Cuadrilla has discovered an estimated 200 trillion cubic feet of gas in its Bowland Shale play. That brings the total to 400-500 trillion cubic feet, about a 160-year gas reserve.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-22748915


23 posted on 03/21/2014 7:27:50 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: bert
The fallacious assumption is that Putin needs stopping. He is going about his business of saving Mother Russia from the pernicious decay rotting the country away. Putin is merely doing his job. The reality is that there is little to nothing that can be done.

So many great posts here. Thanks for yours.

24 posted on 03/21/2014 7:42:40 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: sergeantdave

I thought we had an excess of it. Was I wrong?


25 posted on 03/21/2014 7:43:18 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: No One Special
Russia just invaded another country and annexed part of it. It doesn't matter that some of the locals speak Russian. By the same logic France and the Netherlands could agree to split Belgium in two.

In the past, countries could invade and conquer other countries without any consequences. That was supposed to stop after WWII.

The real challenge might come in the future when Putin tries to reclaim Estonia and Latvia for the Russian Empire--if he gets away with that, then NATO is completely discredited. Which might be a reason he would do so while Obama is still President.

26 posted on 03/21/2014 9:13:15 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: MarMema

“I thought we had an excess of it. Was I wrong?”

Not sure what your question is.

I’m simply agreeing with the other post that Europe, and the UK in particular, are slavishly bowing to the global warming propagandists and are now complaining that Russia has an energy stranglehold on their economies. This is a situation that Europe and the UK have created all by themselves by acting stupidly while they’re sitting on massive natural gas and coal reserves.


27 posted on 03/21/2014 9:51:54 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave
An excess of LNG - back when they were considering going to Syria I read a lot of stuff about us having tons of it.

And they were approving ports right and left to ship it.

As for the U.S., experts say there's so much natural gas in the country that increased supply even from more expensive drilling areas will keep the lid on prices.

28 posted on 03/21/2014 1:38:03 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: MarMema

“An excess of LNG...”

I’m not terribly familiar with LNG logistics. We don’t have a surplus of tankers to ship LNG to Europe. Even if we did, it’s my understanding that Asia will pay more for LNG than Europe. Nor do we have a pipeline from New Orleans to Berlin in order to sell Europeans gas.

Europe has painted itself into a corner by relying on one supplier - Russia. Any disruption in that supply could throw most of Europe into economic chaos. Europe’s best bet right now is to wait for Israel to get its Leviathan gas field in the Mediterranean online to give Europe a modicum of relief. But that field will only provide Europe with enough energy for a few years.

Europe has stupidly fallen for the global warming trash propaganda and is trying to switch to carbon-free energy alternatives like wind and solar. Neither are proven nor mature technologies that can supply all of Europe’s energy needs. Both have needed massive government subsidies that are paid for via green taxes on every Briton’s energy bill.

It shows me that the US doesn’t have a monopoly on incredibly stupid “leaders.”


29 posted on 03/21/2014 3:03:46 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Poland has fast-tracked Fracking recently.


30 posted on 03/21/2014 3:06:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Erik Latranyi

Agreed! We need to do to Russia what we inadvertently did to Venezuela except on purpose.


31 posted on 03/21/2014 3:33:16 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: MarMema

Nope! We have way more natural gas already from drilled wells than we can use immediately.


32 posted on 03/21/2014 3:35:53 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: dfwgator

“Poland has fast-tracked Fracking recently.”

That’s great news. If you have a link, please post it.

The problem with fraking is that you need to build the infrastructure to take advantage of it. That costs money. When I did independent contract work in Israel, it was amazing to watch how Israeli private investors worked with European and Russian investors to develop its Leviathan gas field in the Mediterranean Sea. The investors brought in Noble Energy from Texas to develop the field. Recently, an Australian energy company bought a 25% share in the Leviathan field. What happened in Israel happened just in time as the country’s old gas fields played out. I consider that a capitalist miracle with the Lord’s help.

I hope that Poland has similar success in its gas plays.


33 posted on 03/21/2014 3:46:43 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Here you go...

Shale gas extraction tax-free in Poland through 2020
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/world/a/21930469/shale-gas-extraction-tax-free-in-poland-through-2020/


34 posted on 03/21/2014 3:50:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: meatloaf

“We have way more natural gas already from drilled wells than we can use immediately.”

It’s much more amazing than most people realize. Energy, like gas, mining and oil exploitation, create economic multipliers. I’m not an expert in economics, but for every energy job created, you also create multiple satellite jobs to support the energy industry. Things like restaurants, hardware stores, housing and trucking.

We are on the edge of a huge economic boom fueled by energy development.

Our task is to get the fascist federal government out of our way. If we do that, America will see an economic revival the likes of have never been experienced.

JMHO


35 posted on 03/21/2014 4:11:54 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: dfwgator

Looks like a good plan. The Poles learned from our stupid acquiescence to the Arab oil embargo of 1973.

If that RINO freak Nixon had any balls, he would have sent a carrier to the Gulf of Oman filled with Marine A-4 Skyhaks to strafe the Saud house. Damn SOB Faisal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud would have been sh*tting parts of 20 MM cannon fragments out his Arab butthole.


36 posted on 03/21/2014 4:58:24 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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