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American Physical Society: The First Major Scientific Institution To Reject Global Warming ?
Breitbart.com ^ | March 20, 2014 | James Delingpole

Posted on 03/21/2014 9:18:28 AM PDT by Innovative

The American Physical Society (APS) has signalled a dramatic turnabout in its position on "climate change" by appointing three notorious climate skeptics to its panel on public affairs (POPA).

If that list looks impressive, perhaps it's worth reminding ourselves of Hal Lewis's theory as to why so many scientific institutions have fallen for the scam.

There are indeed trillions of dollars involved, to say nothing of the fame and glory (and frequent trips to exotic islands) that go with being a member of the club. Your own Physics Department (of which you are chairman) would lose millions a year if the global warming bubble burst.

Yes the American Physical Society's change of heart is significant but we've a long way to go before that oil tanker turns round. Or, as Churchill might have said: "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

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KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; physics; science
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"American Physical Society Sees The Light: Will It Be The First Major Scientific Institution To Reject The Global Warming 'Consensus'?"

The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step -- let's hope this is a first major step in the direction of the rejection of the entire global warming scam.

1 posted on 03/21/2014 9:18:28 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Global warming ping


2 posted on 03/21/2014 9:18:53 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

So government grants are the cause of global warming?


3 posted on 03/21/2014 9:20:36 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
no... government grants drive the falsified research which perpetuates the global warming hoax.
4 posted on 03/21/2014 9:23:00 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: driftdiver
QUOTE: "So government grants are the cause of global warming?"

That's quote-worthy!

5 posted on 03/21/2014 9:23:05 AM PDT by jimmyray
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To: Innovative
Perhaps they will reveal the bogus "science". I taught physics in high school until I retired and when the statement was made by algore "The science is settled" many of my students will attest that I went ballistic.

The essence of the the scientific problem solving process is constant research, revision and proving, not consensus

6 posted on 03/21/2014 9:23:31 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Innovative

One small step for men, one giant leap for mankind.

Engineers would never dare step off into the world of speculation like this. They know that to do so would be to create designs that would fail.


7 posted on 03/21/2014 9:25:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: pfflier

Also, good mathematics and good theory.


8 posted on 03/21/2014 9:27:03 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: pfflier

“Consensus science” is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Even one scientist with the truth, trumps 100,000,000 scientists who have “faith” in error.


9 posted on 03/21/2014 9:28:55 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: driftdiver
So government grants are the cause of global warming?

I like it.

10 posted on 03/21/2014 9:31:32 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Innovative

BLASPHEMY! These evil earth killers need to locked up! ;>}


11 posted on 03/21/2014 9:32:58 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Innovative

“notorious” climate change skeptics?

no bias here...


12 posted on 03/21/2014 9:34:03 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Innovative
I guess they understand that there will now be calls for the for members to be jailed for heresy.
13 posted on 03/21/2014 9:34:39 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: afsnco

I always get peeved when Obama, et al, use the term ‘every’ when talking about economists, scientists, etc. It gives the aura of consensus but no actual statistic on agreement. Ironically, ‘every’ economist, scientist, etc, ‘agrees’ with whatever any Dem is promoting. And Big Media NEVER questions that ‘fact’. It is enough to make one’s blood boil.


14 posted on 03/21/2014 9:35:03 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: afsnco

““Consensus science” is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Even one scientist with the truth, trumps 100,000,000 scientists who have “faith” in error.”

The claim of a scientific “consensus” is bad enough. Couple that with the intimidation of and retaliation against scientists who dare to dissent and the climate change proponents’ approach becomes something much worse.


15 posted on 03/21/2014 9:36:08 AM PDT by MNGal
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To: Innovative
They are already planning the replacememt scam.

The utter collapse of human civilization will be ‘difficult to avoid,’ NASA funded study says

16 posted on 03/21/2014 9:37:46 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Innovative
Among the first articles in the Global Warming scam was a professor at UC Irvine winning a Nobel Prize for claiming that refrigerant R-12 was destroying Earth's upper atmosphere.

Having worked with R-12, I positively knew that R-12 liquid molecules -- upon release and expanding from liquid to gas -- are heavier than air. That means the R-12 molecule drops down, not up.

Having worked aboard Naval ships, I knew released R-12 was heavier than air because releasing R-12 aboard a ship tends to fill the entire hull with R-12 molecules ... pushing out air and killing humans trying to escape.

17 posted on 03/21/2014 9:39:16 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (Looking forward to November elections.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

NASA..........what a disastrous turn this agency has taken under the Bamster. They were the epitome of space exploration and now they are nothing but junk scientists. I weep for our once great country.


18 posted on 03/21/2014 9:41:27 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Innovative

The physicists will be the first to turn.

When I was in grad school in physics, the APS was the most important of the physics organizations.


19 posted on 03/21/2014 9:43:31 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Starstruck

The USA Grant Programs need a serious overhaul because the billions/trillions? that make up the leftist fraudulent applications netting windfalls, in which Democrats/Republicans give away taxpayer dollars by the wheelbarrow full to install bad politicians and study things like ‘the effect of Marjuana on a Rhesus Monkey’ (1960s) to “a bug on a treadmill’ (2009?) are seriously in need of downsizing or elimination altogether.


20 posted on 03/21/2014 9:46:57 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Innovative
Yes the American Physical Society's change of heart is significant but we've a long way to go before that oil tanker turns round. Or, as Churchill might have said: "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

The 'end of the beginning'...well, it's a start.

21 posted on 03/21/2014 9:57:06 AM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: driftdiver

“So government grants are the cause of global warming?”

In essence, yes.


22 posted on 03/21/2014 10:00:23 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Innovative

Physicists may be among the most clear-thinking when it comes to objective questions - I remember when Ivan Glaever, a Nobel Laureate in physics, resigned from the APS because of their stand on AGW:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/14/nobel-prize-winning-physicist-resigns-from-top-physics-group-over-global/

The alarmists make a big deal out of all the scientific societies that support the AGW racket - what they don’t realize (or admit) is that the best scientists are in the lab doing science; in many cases the leadership of the professional societies are shot through with bureaucratic mediocrities whose real interests are more political than scientific.


23 posted on 03/21/2014 10:07:52 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: Vince Ferrer

I noticed that, too. I think they’ll pulling that one out of the oven too soon, though. Not even the European electorate has been conditioned enough to swallow that one. Maybe they don’t think they need to rely on popular support any more, and they can shove it down our collective throat.


24 posted on 03/21/2014 10:13:28 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: ExSoldier

Ping.


25 posted on 03/21/2014 10:23:02 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Innovative

“The American Physical Society (APS) is the world’s second largest organization of physicists,”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Physical_Society

No climatologists so libs will say big deal.


26 posted on 03/21/2014 10:31:45 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: pfflier

If the science was settled, they would have a model with predictive power, and their models have been dreadfully wrong from the beginning. There is so much they don’t understand.

It has not been scientifically proven that these trace amounts of atmospheric CO2 are changing anything in the planet’s climate that is even remotely statistically relevant. Right now Global Warming has been put on hold as none of the AGW climate models have proven anything and the Earth’s temperature is not cooperating. Princeton mathematician Freeman Dyson back filled the models with actual CO2 numbers and the results diverged from the climatic history, so much for the accuracy of the models. The fact is that the scientists have not yet been born, nor the engineers yet been trained, nor the software designed nor the sensing equipment yet conceived that could create an interplanetary climate model that predicts the Earth’s climate with anything remotely resembling accuracy. They are attempting brain surgery in an operating room with no light, using garden tools, and armed only with a plumbing certificate. Who is on the table? The taxpayer!


27 posted on 03/21/2014 10:32:30 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: driftdiver

Bump


28 posted on 03/21/2014 10:32:54 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: OldNavyVet

That whole “Freon destroying the ozone layer” story seemed as credible as saying “Rocks at the bottom of the ocean are floating to the surface.”


29 posted on 03/21/2014 10:34:11 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Innovative

Libs already ridicule the APS.


30 posted on 03/21/2014 10:34:36 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Innovative
There are indeed trillions of dollars involved, to say nothing of the fame and glory (and frequent trips to exotic islands) that go with being a member of the club. Your own Physics Department (of which you are chairman) would lose millions a year if the global warming bubble burst.

There is a mythology that scientific research is drawn by data and knowledge rather than money. They believe every a scientist is a wholly objective entity with no personal ambitions other than learning the truth. Money corrupts even the scientist.
31 posted on 03/21/2014 10:38:13 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: Innovative
I believe this is the organization that had its Nobel laureate president resign in protest a year or two ago because of its mindless parroting of the AGW scam. perhaps that act of integrity is bearing fruit.
32 posted on 03/21/2014 10:42:27 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: All

In the meantime Obama launched a new website promoting the issue of global warming and wants to spend another $1 BILLION!

http://www.data.gov/climate/

Obama Turns to Web to Illustrate the Effects of a Changing Climate

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/20/us/politics/white-house-to-introduce-climate-data-website.html?_r=0


33 posted on 03/21/2014 10:50:39 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

I know several physicists. My education includes a Masters in Engineering with a focus on quantum mechanics. Not a single one of them (or me for that matter) ever bought into the AGW garbage. Why? Because we know what “absorption spectra” and “Plank’s Law” are.

Funny thing is, I’ve brought both of those topics up to AGW fanatics. Never had one understand what those terms even mean.

AGW is a fraud. PERIOD.


34 posted on 03/21/2014 10:58:26 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Innovative

Looks like some of these folks have opted to resign from Algore’s Grant Money Whores Club.

For really bright people, some of them are a bit slow.


35 posted on 03/21/2014 11:01:46 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Innovative

This isn’t a bigee. They review every 5 years.


36 posted on 03/21/2014 11:26:30 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Titus-Maximus

How about their claim to be able to measure the average temperature of the entire Earth over the course of a year or even a decade to an accuracy of two places to the right of the decimal, 1/100th of one degree? I think that is totally out of all reason to claim such accuracy.


37 posted on 03/21/2014 11:32:06 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Innovative

John Christy firmly believes human activity has altered Earth’s climate.

Richard Lindzen? His claim to fame is the cirrus cloud theory, which he now says was wrong.

“According to an April 30, 2012 New York Times article,[67] “Dr. Lindzen accepts the elementary tenets of climate science. He agrees that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, calling people who dispute that point “nutty.” He agrees that the level of it is rising because of human activity and that this should warm the climate.” However, he believes that decreasing tropical cirrus clouds in a warmer world will allow more longwave radiation to escape the atmosphere, counteracting the warming.[67] Lindzen first published this “iris” theory in 2001,[8] and offered more support in a 2009 paper,[50] but today “most mainstream researchers consider Dr. Lindzen’s theory discredited” according to the Times article.[67] Dr. Lindzen acknowledged that the 2009 paper contained “some stupid mistakes” in his handling of the satellite data. “It was just embarrassing,” he said in the Times interview. “The technical details of satellite measurements are really sort of grotesque.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lindzen#Views_on_climate_change

Judith Curry? She’s not a ‘deniar’ either.

“While Judith Curry supports the scientific opinion on climate change,[12] she has argued that climatologists should be more accommodating of those skeptical of the scientific consensus on climate change.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Curry#Climate_change

The APS is one of the foremost science organizations in the world. If they challenged the “consensus,” they would be destroyed by the media and ridiculed worldwide. No way will they risk that.


38 posted on 03/21/2014 11:59:31 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Innovative
What I ask my global warming acquaintances is how come the ice age ended before we had automobiles or electricity from coal? They never seem to know the answer.
39 posted on 03/21/2014 4:05:27 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: driftdiver
So government grants are the cause of global warming?

It's the only data that hasn't been falsified.

40 posted on 03/21/2014 4:08:34 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: greeneyes

What I ask my global warming acquaintances is how come the ice age ended before we had automobiles or electricity from coal? They never seem to know the answer.


It’s not so much the warming, per se. It’s about the SPEED of the warming. The ice age didn’t end in 20-30 years.


41 posted on 03/21/2014 9:57:38 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Guess what? The warming stopped about a decade ago. So it didn’t last much longer than that 20-30 years.


42 posted on 03/22/2014 8:55:59 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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