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Another Dumb Thing McConnell Supported: The Light-Bulb Ban (Maybe Not the Brightest Bulb)
freedomworks.org ^ | 3/21/14 | Dean Clancy

Posted on 03/21/2014 10:35:17 AM PDT by cotton1706

Among the many dumb and harmful things Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) has voted for over the decades -- and there are some doozies, for example, adding trillions to the national debt, creating the unneeded and unaffordable Medicare Part D prescription drug entitlement (2003, Roll Call Vote 457), and, even more outrageously, funding Obamacare (2013, RCV 206) -- one of the dumbest has to be the light-bulb ban (2007, RCV 430).

The bill Senator McConnell voted for contained a federally mandated phase-out out of the traditional incandescent light bulb in favor of those annoying folded-tube fluorescents. Compact fluorescents, as they're called, cost a lot more than regular bulbs, give off a pallid light, and contain hazardous mercury. Under the ban, the Energy Department is authorized to phase out incandescents, and it is doing so.

This dumb idea was tucked into a massive "omnibus" energy bill passed by the Democrats in 2007. Among other things, that bill created massive new subsidies for green energy development, severely tightened fuel mileage requirements for passenger vehicles, and created a whole new renewable fuels standard -- all of which have increased the cost of our cars and our fuel.

McConnell voted for it.

Thanks, Mitch!

Wanting to reduce wasteful energy use is a fine goal. But there is a right way to do it, and a wrong way. The right way is to let markets work. The wrong way is to have the government interfere with people's private choices.

When people have to pay the real cost of their electricity or gasoline use, or what have you, you can bet they will use only as much as makes sense to them financially and no more. When the government interferes, the result is inevitably waste and misallocation of resources.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cfl; elections; electricity; energy
From the article:

Sometimes the result is the very opposite of what the central planners had in mind.

That may be true here. The light-bulb ban probably drives up energy use by people who think they can leave energy-frugal compact fluorescents burning all the time at little cost to themselves. Certainly the ban reduces our comfort and convenience. More importantly, it reduces our freedom.

By the way. Why can't these busybodies mind their own bee's wax? Who gives a hoot about what kind of light-bulb other people use, or what kind of toilet they flush? Jeepers.

The light-bulb ban is one of the dumber ideas to come out of Washington in a long time. In voting for it, Mitch McConnell revealed himself to be -- you'll pardon the expression -- a dim bulb.

1 posted on 03/21/2014 10:35:17 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

The only thing I can figure is that the incandescent bulb creates heat. That infuriated the Global Warming Nazis and they manipulated the politicians to ban the incandescent. I hate the CFL bulbs......they give me a headache. We have been buying the LED bulbs, one at a time as they are really expensive. But they are supposed to last for decades.


2 posted on 03/21/2014 10:40:57 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: cotton1706

Not a dime’s worth of difference.


3 posted on 03/21/2014 10:41:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cotton1706
So what's up with the light bulb ban, anyway?
I notice them in the stores still...
4 posted on 03/21/2014 10:42:33 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: originalbuckeye

Those CFL bulbs WILL NOT cross my threshold. I bought a case of 60 and 75 watters on ebay. I should be good for about ten years.


5 posted on 03/21/2014 10:42:46 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: cotton1706

In the case of McConnell it simply means he got a campaign contribution (er, Bribe) from a CFL manufacturer.

That’s all. He’s a really easy guy to understand.


6 posted on 03/21/2014 10:45:03 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: cotton1706

Please KY, dump this TURD.


7 posted on 03/21/2014 10:45:11 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: grobdriver

Can you find any 100 watt bulbs in stores?


8 posted on 03/21/2014 10:45:23 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: cotton1706

Just wait until the enviroNazi’s start demanding Billions to clean up all the Mercury in our landfills, due to these bulbs.


9 posted on 03/21/2014 10:46:27 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Balding_Eagle

We pretty much use 75-watt everywhere so haven’t noticed.


10 posted on 03/21/2014 10:49:22 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: cotton1706

McConnell had 85 other dim bulbs with him on that vote.

The vote was 86 to 8 with 6 not voting.

Those voting against or not voting were:

NAYs -—8
Barrasso (R-WY)
Coburn (R-OK)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Hatch (R-UT)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Stabenow (D-MI)

Not Voting - 6
Biden (D-DE)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Hagel (R-NE)
McCain (R-AZ)
Obama (D-IL)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00430


11 posted on 03/21/2014 10:50:59 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: grobdriver
I notice them in the stores still...

The 100 and 75 watt bulbs are almost impossible to find these days. You are probably not seeing anything over 60 watts in the stores.

The ban kicks in over time with the 100 watt bulbs outlawed one year, and 75 watt bulbs the next, etc.

My anger over this has dissipated somewhat as I already have a lifetime supply of incandescent bulbs.

Now, about those gas cans...

12 posted on 03/21/2014 10:55:52 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: cotton1706

Stupid Republicans, RINO’s, are just as bad as democrats.


13 posted on 03/21/2014 10:58:16 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: cotton1706

I find CFLs actually allow me to fine tune my lighting needs.

6500K in the kitchen and bathroom, 4100K and 3500K in my living space and 5000K and 3500K in the bedroom.

I hate the yellow old light bulb and never want to go back to it. I like a relaxing yellow hint color bulb in living spaces, a bright white light for reading and full daylight light to allow me to get tasks done faster.

And for open fixtures, CFLs now come in the more familiar A shape and globe shape, I find I can live with them and their energy savings as well in producing the kind of light I want in a particular room.


14 posted on 03/21/2014 11:04:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Can you find any 100 watt bulbs in stores?
They are gone - outlawed. However, the idiots who wrote this stupid law and the jerk that signed it (W) failed to include rough service incandescent bulbs which last longer and are available from many places including bulbs.com.
15 posted on 03/21/2014 11:05:34 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Halogen bulbs which are considered to be energy efficient generate more heat per watt than incandescent’s.

There are some loopholes to the ban. You can still buy “rough service” incandescent bulbs as well as silicone coated bulbs. The coated bulbs were designed for use around food.

These are two good led bulbs to look at:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smart-home/philips-slimstyle-led-bulb/4505-9788_7-35833478.html


16 posted on 03/21/2014 11:06:55 AM PDT by thejokker
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To: thejokker
Halogen bulbs which are considered to be energy efficient generate more heat per watt than incandescent’s.

This sounds like a lie on the face of it. Perhaps the higher peak temperature of the capsule is in view. But the capsule is smaller than a "normal" bulb's shell.

17 posted on 03/21/2014 11:08:50 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: b4its2late

I applied for a government grant to study the effects of the incandescent light bulbs over the next 40 years on blindness. I figure since I was 63 at the time, I’ll be dead before the results are in, have spent all the money and the government will spend more millions to back up my data (which will come from the internet). So far, I haven’t heard a word. What makes me unable to get a grant?


18 posted on 03/21/2014 11:09:00 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: originalbuckeye

As an early adopter of the compact fluorescent bulbs, I chose them because their overall cost (first cost plus cost of operation over the lifetime of the device) is much lower, and in this I have not been disappointed. I only have incandescent bulbs now for a very special purposes, as a light in the oven, or refrigerator, or one or two old portable lights. Incandescent bulbs have the advantage of being INSTANTEOUSLY at full brightness when switched on, a troublesome short-coming of fluorescent lighting, both the older kind, which needed a starter that had to charge up, before light flickered into being, and with a residual hum in operation, and in the newer compact bulbs, which are about as bright as a wet match when first powered up, not coming to full intensity for several minutes. Once lit, their power drain is much less than incandescent bulbs, and total lifetimes vastly exceed the older technology.

But this ban on incandescent lighting distorts the market and freezes in place innovations in design. Halogen lighting would never have been developed without the intermediary step of the tungsten filament bulb. Halogen lighting has the further design flaw of converting the energy not only into visible light, but generating much greater heat intensity per watt of energy used. But halogen light has not been called out for this difference, as first of all, they have a much longer lifetime than the older tungsten-filament design, and sometimes, the heat generation is a positive attribute in some applications.

In the normal course of things, tungsten-filament bulbs would have died away, like the old vacuum tubes that used to dominate electronic devices, because there were newer and more efficient means to gain the same objective with transistors. LED bulbs are the equivalent of transistors in the level of technology, and it is only because of resistance to innovation that they are not already as cheap and plentiful as transistors and computer chips.


19 posted on 03/21/2014 11:11:00 AM PDT by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: grobdriver

You can still find 75 watts?


20 posted on 03/21/2014 11:17:04 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: cotton1706

I have over 500 in a stack that range from 20 to 100 watts.


21 posted on 03/21/2014 11:22:04 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: cotton1706

I bought thousands of 100 watt bubs. I wanted to stock up before the hoarders got them all.


22 posted on 03/21/2014 11:25:38 AM PDT by Einherjar
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To: cotton1706
I'd be willing to bet that 75% of Americans are wondering *how the hell this happened* when they can no longer find incandescent bulbs.
Absolutely no clue about the law when it was passed, its' ramifications or who the hell voted for this piece of garbage.

We are definitely a country of low info dumb asses in just about every way.

23 posted on 03/21/2014 11:28:21 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: Safetgiver

I have no idea. Your grant proposal sounds perfectly logical to me.


24 posted on 03/21/2014 11:49:32 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Safetgiver
What makes me unable to get a grant?

What color are you? What religion are you? Who do you vote for? What are your politcal leanings?

FMCDH(BITS)

25 posted on 03/21/2014 11:51:00 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Einherjar
I bought thousands of 100 watt bubs. I wanted to stock up before the hoarders got them all.

You piker! I bought 100,000 100 watt bulbs over a year ago before you hoarders got them all!

FMCDH(BITS)

26 posted on 03/21/2014 11:55:56 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Guess I haven't had to replenish since the first of the year.
I just stopped by Wally World and there are no 75 watters. Some 72 watt jobs... wonder if that's a semantics thing to get around the law.
60 watters out the kazoo

Picked up a box of the 72's to do a side-by-side with 75's

27 posted on 03/21/2014 12:38:38 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

A couple years ago I was the IT guy for a lighting company. A halogen bulb will produce more light at a certain wattage than an incandescent bulb but it will also produce more heat. If you have a lot of halogen track lighting or flood lights it could decrease your winter heating bill or increase your summer cooling bill depending of course on the quantity of bulbs.


28 posted on 03/21/2014 12:57:51 PM PDT by thejokker
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To: thejokker

Certainly you know enough to be able to track down your authority there, then.

Watts is watts. The fate of the emissions of any lamp will be to become heat — even light is converted to heat upon striking surfaces.


29 posted on 03/21/2014 1:06:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: alloysteel

“But this ban on incandescent lighting distorts the market and freezes in place innovations in design.” Thank you for bringing this up. I think it’s the real travesty of the whole thing. Why should CFL manufacturers try to improve their product if there is no low-cost competition?


30 posted on 03/21/2014 2:33:04 PM PDT by Kanzan
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To: originalbuckeye

newcandescent.com


31 posted on 03/21/2014 6:17:45 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: grobdriver

They didn’t ban all bulbs at once.

The banned 100 watt and above first, now I think its 75 watt and above this year, 50 watt and above next year, then all gone.

I was working at a hardware store when the 100 watts went away. We had a closeout of 5 cents a bulb. I pulled out a twenty and took home a bunch...should last me a while.


32 posted on 03/22/2014 3:48:34 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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