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Report: 20,000 Russian Troops Massed on Ukraine Border
CNN via Twitter ^ | Friday, March 21, 2014 | Barbara Starr

Posted on 03/21/2014 11:46:12 AM PDT by kristinn

US now watching 20k Russian armed troops in motorized units on 3Ukraine (sic) border formation by formation. Zero warning time if they move.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: hoops; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 03/21/2014 11:46:12 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn
Pooty knows how to time this all for maximum advantage.

2 posted on 03/21/2014 11:47:25 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Genoa

Time for another Obama vacation..


3 posted on 03/21/2014 11:48:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: kristinn
Now THAT is a sign of weakness!

Dosvidanya Kyev!

4 posted on 03/21/2014 11:48:59 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: kristinn

I hope O had Duke in the final 4.


5 posted on 03/21/2014 11:50:17 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Time for another Obama vacation..

That would be funny as hell.....IF it wasn't so very true.

6 posted on 03/21/2014 11:50:36 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: kristinn

Ukrainian troops had time to prepare and reinforce the border. The morals are high, they are ready.


7 posted on 03/21/2014 11:52:23 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: b4its2late

He had them in the Final 8.


8 posted on 03/21/2014 11:52:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: b4its2late
He had Ohio State beating Syracuse tomorrow.

9 posted on 03/21/2014 11:53:10 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: kristinn

70 years ago this month the Soviet Union invaded Ukraine and killed thousands of Germans and captured thousands more,”liberating” Ukraine. History repeats??


10 posted on 03/21/2014 11:54:22 AM PDT by muskah
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To: Genoa

Pooty took the measure of Obambi and found it safe to proceed.


11 posted on 03/21/2014 11:57:08 AM PDT by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: Samogon

Ukraine’s Military first of all is no match for Russia...the most Nato will do is send arms so they can fight to at least go down honorably if indeed that happens. At any rate the Eu?Nato have already determined they will not go to war over Ukraine nor Crimea.....unless all the talk is just that to confuse Putin.


12 posted on 03/21/2014 11:57:49 AM PDT by caww
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To: Samogon

Ukraine’s Military first of all is no match for Russia...the most Nato will do is send arms so they can fight to at least go down honorably if indeed that happens. At any rate the Eu?Nato have already determined they will not go to war over Ukraine nor Crimea.....unless all the talk is just that to confuse Putin.


13 posted on 03/21/2014 11:57:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: kristinn
Another interesting tweet: Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR · 1h #Ukrainian ship “Cherkasy” crew trying 2 move sunk by Russian troops ships in #Donuzlav lake in order 2 get access 2 the sea -@Euromaidan PR Not gonna happen without heavy equipment. The Russians sank a cruiser there, not a barge, for a reason, I think.
14 posted on 03/21/2014 11:58:32 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: NormsRevenge
Obama golfing photo: obama golfing obama-golfing-2-300x205.jpg
15 posted on 03/21/2014 12:00:47 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: kristinn

I wish we had a President who would amass troops along our southern border.


16 posted on 03/21/2014 12:01:32 PM PDT by grania
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To: kristinn

Crimea was so obvious, I think he wanted Eastern Ukraine all along.


17 posted on 03/21/2014 12:01:56 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: kristinn

The beast of the east is still hungry and the lion tamer has left the gate open and gotten a new job at a toll booth


18 posted on 03/21/2014 12:02:19 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: kristinn

The Ukraine Russia border is over 1400 miles long.

WHERE along that border are these 20,000 troops? Despite the hysteria, 20,000 troops in a country as large as Ukraine isn’t going to do much. And I’ll bet they aren’t aligned toward Kiev.

Donetsk or Kherson, where there have been clashes between Russians and Ukrainian nationalists, however?


19 posted on 03/21/2014 12:02:26 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: muskah
Yeah. Ignore 1933 too. Ignore the murder of many, many millions of people, so-called Kullaks. If you do that, and, if you ignore the horrors inflicted for hundreds of years before the 20th CEN, and if you ignore the post WWII Russian Soviet crimes inflicted on the Ukrainians, you can champion that Putin is the latest swell liberator. Of course, you'd be an ignominious and a philistine. But hey, we why not if you're in to low information propaganda.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afVdnbMd6gA

20 posted on 03/21/2014 12:02:36 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: kristinn

20,000 is a division-plus or a small corps. Not really enough to go deeply into the Ukraine even if we assume there won’t be a lot of opposition.

Like the US in Iraq, the Russians might be able to slice & dice in the opening phase, but once they ‘go static’ then the real problems begin.


21 posted on 03/21/2014 12:03:28 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: kristinn

They are just there for some R&R. No story here. Move along. What is Michele wearing today in China?


22 posted on 03/21/2014 12:06:10 PM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: tcrlaf

“Clashes between Russians and Ukrainian nationalists”... means provocations by Russian paid provocateurs, you mean. People I know there say that most natives and Russian transplants get along well, except for Putin’s agents.


23 posted on 03/21/2014 12:06:18 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

“Crimea was so obvious, I think he wanted Eastern Ukraine all along.”

The Donetsk region is the real prize, as I said when all of this first started. Most of the industry, the pipeline hubs, and more importantly, the nickel mines.


24 posted on 03/21/2014 12:06:19 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: elhombrelibre

“People I know there say that most natives and Russian transplants get along well, except for Putin’s agents.”

Is everyone that doesn’t agree with the Kiev coup a
Russian Agent”?


25 posted on 03/21/2014 12:07:54 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

Everyone who agrees with Putin is a voluntary and ideological supporter of him. They’re the type of people targeted for espionage and treason.


26 posted on 03/21/2014 12:12:24 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: elhombrelibre

“Everyone who agrees with Putin is a voluntary and ideological supporter of him. They’re the type of people targeted for espionage and treason.”

Yeah...
That’s what I thought you would say.


27 posted on 03/21/2014 12:13:31 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

What is it about Putin, if anything, that you do not agree with him on? Are you an American, by the way? Do you favor Soviet/Russian/Putinista hegemony in the world?


28 posted on 03/21/2014 12:15:06 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: Samogon
The morals are high,

I think you mean 'morale'. But hey, they could be quite moral...

29 posted on 03/21/2014 12:17:58 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: tcrlaf

Many traitors are ideological and don’t need money to join the enemy.


30 posted on 03/21/2014 12:18:09 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Everyone who agrees with Putin is a voluntary and ideological supporter of him.

So everyone who thought the Versailles Treaty was a terrible injustice to Germany is a Nazi?

31 posted on 03/21/2014 12:19:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

No. They were the craven ones who he duped, like Keynes.


32 posted on 03/21/2014 12:21:54 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: dfwgator

And they paved the way for Hitler with their focus on his grievances about the Versailles Treaty instead of his ongoing crimes against those who had nothing to do with the Versailles Treaty.


33 posted on 03/21/2014 12:25:10 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: Samogon
Ukrainian troops had time to prepare and reinforce the border. The morals are high, they are ready.

Let's hope so. Are they are real nation? I want to see a Ukrainian response. So far, it has been to roll over, and look to Obama and Merkel - a recipe for failure. Putin does not fear them. He DOES fear IED's, snipers killing his troops for decades, and having to occupy cities block-by-block in a long-expensive war. That may very well topple him from power. Putin has gambled there would be no response, and so far, he is correct.

Its a terrible proposition for the people there.

34 posted on 03/21/2014 12:25:24 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: elhombrelibre

“What is it about Putin, if anything, that you do not agree with him on?”

See? You are at it again.
Anyone that doesn’t agree with the party line as determined by YOU is a “putinista”. I’ll bet you are really popular over at KOS, where Groupthink is the order of the day.

I don’t agree with Putin, but I do understand what is causing him to act. Is it to his advantage? Hell yes it is. Don’t think “rules for radicals”, think Machiavelli. “The Prince that is feared, is far more respected than the Prince that is loved.”

I’m on the other side of the world from this, with no personal stake in it, trying to observe the facts that are available to me, and interpret them as best I can.

You should try it sometime.


35 posted on 03/21/2014 12:25:52 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Samogon

Time to gas the trucks and get them headed west.

There, I fixed it for you.


36 posted on 03/21/2014 12:27:12 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: tcrlaf
I'm not on the other side of the world.

I can name at least ten thing I don't approve of with Obama. Get outside your comfort zone. What do you not approve about Putin the Great?

37 posted on 03/21/2014 12:27:41 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: elhombrelibre

I agree, but I don’t think pointing out when Putin actually has a case means we necessarily support him.

The fact is, with regards to Crimea, it doesn’t matter who the Russian leader is....there is no Russian leader who will allow an independent Ukraine with Crimea...they would be removed from power so fast, if they were to allow it.


38 posted on 03/21/2014 12:29:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: tcrlaf

Things I don’t approve of concerning Obama:
1. Obama Care.
2. Labeling all opposition against him as racist.
3. Supporting authoritarian governments hostile to the USA.
4. Not supporting Israel.
5. Harassment of Christians who oppose ObamaCare.
6. IRS harassment of political opposition.
7. Weakening US defense.
8. Over spending.
9. Over taxing Americans.
10. Demonizing opposition.


39 posted on 03/21/2014 12:33:45 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: tcrlaf

I see our friendly freeper is right on cue on this thread....wonder when reality will will wake them up?

Ukraine has it’s hands full just keeping the daily criminal element in line...not to mention their Government. Ukraine knows NAto will only send arms..nothing more...they will not go to war with Russia though maybe a few fire fights....

Brussels summit made pretty clear Eu not interested in going to war over Ukraine...and NAto membership for Ukraine off the table until a new government is seated AND functioning with the economic conditions there. They will not take on Ukraines debt, nor their instability any time soon and you’ll see them avoid and drag their feet on this issue...


40 posted on 03/21/2014 12:33:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: dfwgator

Nonsense. This is a recent phenomenon as a result of Putin’s hand picked leader for Ukraine making the mistake of trying to integrate Ukraine with Europe. Putin vetoed that. The Ukrainians rebelled.


41 posted on 03/21/2014 12:35:34 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: dfwgator

If Putin heads toward Kiev Gov. it’ll be bloody violent IMO. ..and we both know why. Unless Putin uses special agents to clear them out.


42 posted on 03/21/2014 12:35:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: dfwgator

If Putin heads toward Kiev Gov. it’ll be bloody violent IMO. ..and we both know why. Unless Putin uses special agents to clear them out.


43 posted on 03/21/2014 12:35:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: kristinn

Who cares about WWIII. What we really want to know how is Obama’s NCAA bracket working out.


44 posted on 03/21/2014 12:35:45 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: elhombrelibre
11. Obama's obsession with the homosexual agenda. 12. Obama's promotion of statism.

I can go on.

45 posted on 03/21/2014 12:37:23 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: caww
But you think Russians will take on Putin's Crimea debt when they figure out how much it is.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/21/crimea-moscow/6686757/

46 posted on 03/21/2014 12:39:51 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: dfwgator
BTW you note news on missing ship has conveniently taken over news sources over Ukraine and Russia....this is a joint effort to have the hype in Ukraine and with Russia calm down and be forgotten by the general public. Big Boys are running the show!
47 posted on 03/21/2014 12:40:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: elhombrelibre

My extended family members in the Crimea are being ruined financially by the Russian takeover. Of course they worked hard and conducted an honest hotel business at the beach. Now the Russians are ratcheting up corruption two more levels.


48 posted on 03/21/2014 12:40:08 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Please. Pro-Putin FReepers - Putinistas - do not allow actual information not provided by RT.


49 posted on 03/21/2014 12:41:18 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Are they Russian or Ukrainian? Makes a difference now where they loyalties are.


50 posted on 03/21/2014 12:41:36 PM PDT by caww
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