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Search for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 resumes in southern Indian Ocean
news.com.au ^ | 22nd March 2014

Posted on 03/21/2014 1:46:25 PM PDT by naturalman1975

HMAS Success is due to arrive in the search area for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 today, joining the increasingly international effort to find the missing ship.

Australian, New Zealand and American air searches found no trace of wreckage or debris in their sweeps of the search area southern Indian Ocean yesterday, despite deploying Self Locating Data Marker Buoys in the zone.

Two aircraft from China are also expected to join the search efforts today, along with a Norwegian cargo vessel and one other merchant ship in the search area, approximately 2500 kilometres southwest of Perth.

The search will be further bolstered on Sunday by two P-3 Orions from Japan.

Five Chinese ships and the British HMS Echo are also heading towards the southern Indian Ocean to assist.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; malaysia; mh370; waronterror
I wish it was otherwise, but I strongly suspect there's nothing of significance down there. We're looking because it's possible, not because it's probable.

Speaking selfishly, it's good training hours for sailors of the Royal Australian Navy, and airmen of the Royal Australian Air Force. It's also helping to remind the world that Australia does still have a capable and functioning military (of course, I'd love for it to be far more capable than it is - we should have an aircraft carrier deploying down there, but a previous government got rid of that capability, and once you lose it getting it back is a problem).

I hope they find something for the sake of those who are waiting for news.

1 posted on 03/21/2014 1:46:25 PM PDT by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks for you highly trained observation


2 posted on 03/21/2014 1:48:00 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: naturalman1975

As I understand, the last pings being registered on the satellite tracking system had the airplane going away from the Equator. It has not shown up, landed or crashed, in any country to the north nor have they apparently detected it on any of their radar records to the north so the probability lies with it being the opposite direction which is the south Indian Ocean.


3 posted on 03/21/2014 1:52:38 PM PDT by FAA
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To: naturalman1975

It would be great if there was some sonar equipment or something that can be used to see underwater so they can see if there is a plane down there. It would be horrible for the families if the plane is down there and they just stop searching and it turns out that’s where its laying.


4 posted on 03/21/2014 1:56:06 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The sonobouys they’ve been dropping in that region are designed, among other things, to detect the signal of a large object in the water. I think they can also listen for radio signals like the frequency of the black box ping as well with them.


5 posted on 03/21/2014 2:00:00 PM PDT by FAA
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Dangerous cargo of Lithium Batteries now admitted!


6 posted on 03/21/2014 2:00:39 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: DocJhn

link?


7 posted on 03/21/2014 2:02:51 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: naturalman1975

I think they’re just wasting time looking around in the waters. Ex El Al expert said “Iran likely involved.” Two Iranian nationals carried stolen passports, we all know that. But Interpol and FBI said there may be five Quds aboard the missing plane. Why don’t they start looking down around Iran?


8 posted on 03/21/2014 2:06:17 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: easternsky

mid page center column scroll down, on Drudge


9 posted on 03/21/2014 2:07:35 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: naturalman1975

Did you see the article on drudge where a woman in another plane saw the 777 in water below. No one would listen to her. After she landed her family told her about the missing plane and she filed a police report.
I am wondering if there was a ‘ Lets Roll’ moment on that plane.
We will never know if some brave souls saved others from a great disaster.


10 posted on 03/21/2014 2:08:47 PM PDT by LookingUp
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To: hamboy

I don’t know why Iran (or Pakistan, the other oft rumored bad guy) would do something like this when there were so many Chinese nationals involved. They both have good relations with China and receive military equipment from them, especially Pakistan. To then go and royally tick off one of your few major allies with a stunt like this that gets you.......what?


11 posted on 03/21/2014 2:12:12 PM PDT by FAA
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>>Dangerous cargo of Lithium Batteries now admitted!<<

Just more random information to add to the confusion. Why dangerous? Because they could ignite? Sure. Did they ignite? Unlikely.

Someone turned of the transponder. Would anyone have done that if the batteries ignited? Would a battery fire have occurred so quickly that the crew wouldn’t have had time to get off a Mayday?

Given that there’s absolutely no evidence of a battery fire in the first place, it’s very unlikely they were responsible for the plane going missing.

What I would really like to know is at what distance from the satellite was the plane in all of the previous hourly pings? So far, I’ve not seen that info, but it would tell something about whether the plane was flying on a straight line to an intended destination, or maneuvering back and forth (as I suspect it was).


12 posted on 03/21/2014 2:12:40 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: DocJhn

Doubtful when the info the government has indicates the airplane was apparently intact and operating for another 7 or so hours. If it’s lying around the Andamans then that would mean it went out and flew a grew big circle over the Indian and just, ironically, ran out of fuel and crashed there by chance.


13 posted on 03/21/2014 2:17:16 PM PDT by FAA
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To: Norseman

Lots of rules about transporting batteries on airliners. My company has done it before. They have to packed a certain way, made so as to not allow the contacts to contact anything, etc. Also, the ACARs and transponder were getting shut off about the time the final “All right, good night” was transmitted and whoever said that didn’t sound excited or issue any indications of a problem at the time.


14 posted on 03/21/2014 2:19:50 PM PDT by FAA
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To: naturalman1975

anyone have a link to the spooky Chinese/GRU theory?


15 posted on 03/21/2014 2:20:21 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: FAA

>>Doubtful when the info the government has indicates the airplane was apparently intact and operating for another 7 or so hours.<<

Did the story say what time she supposedly saw the plane in the water? We know the plane was in the air over 7 hours, as you say. If she saw it before then, clearly it wasn’t the plane.


16 posted on 03/21/2014 2:21:30 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Norseman

Yes it does. She says it was about 2:30PM local on the 8thn so the airplane would have been in the water “somewhere.” However, she claims the object was silver and shiny and the Indians have been all over that region twice now and have found absolutely nothing.


17 posted on 03/21/2014 2:26:23 PM PDT by FAA
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To: FAA

I have seen reports that the aircraft could have flown for 7 hrs, but no evidence that it did continue on for that amount of time.
The last Sat Maint ping was said to have been 4 hrs after loss of contact of jet.


18 posted on 03/21/2014 2:41:01 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: naturalman1975

Agree. We have carriers. They should send one down. It’s such a remote place on the earth. They need some kind of base out in the middle of the search area


19 posted on 03/21/2014 2:46:20 PM PDT by virgil
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To: naturalman1975

It’s tough waters down there to find anything but the Arc of the Last Ping put its last location there and that has been the most solid piece of evidence in this whole thing.

They have two more weeks to find the orange box before it quits pinging — so hopefully they give it atleast that.

And when it is all over everyone should send the bill for the SAR to Malaysia.


20 posted on 03/21/2014 2:46:46 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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. . . They both have good relations with China and receive military equipment from them, especially Pakistan. . . .

Dogs eat dogs.

Israel has tightened airspace security after MH370 disappearance, they now ask all planes to identify early.

21 posted on 03/21/2014 2:46:57 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: hamboy

May be old but.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/03/19/heres-whats-odd-about-that-map-of-mh370s-final-satellite-ping/?tid=pm_business_pop


22 posted on 03/21/2014 2:49:29 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: DocJhn

Best noticed comment of the day, “I switched my smart phone to Flight Mode and now I can’t find it”


23 posted on 03/21/2014 2:53:03 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: hamboy

Yes, I’m sure they’re being extra cautious.


24 posted on 03/21/2014 3:03:16 PM PDT by FAA
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To: Uncle Chip

“And when it is all over everyone should send the bill for the SAR to Malaysia.”

And, if I Malaysia, gladly shut up and pay it.


25 posted on 03/21/2014 3:08:20 PM PDT by FAA
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To: DocJhn

I think Inmarsat is the inflight ISP via satellite the airine use, might also linked to the ADS-B and ACARS aboard. Even if the ADS-B and ACARS were off the plane’s main Internet gateway device, like route for inflight DHCP server, might handshaked to the uplink ISP, who knows. That’s my wild guess. Maybe they’d need the NSA to figure that.


26 posted on 03/21/2014 3:10:07 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: hamboy

It would be nice to just have a solid lead in all this mess.
Grab any straw it might just be the one.
Mega millions seems simple compared to this!
I have a friend that is a UPS Pilot but he’s out on runs now I am hoping to touch base with him tonight and get his take on all this.


27 posted on 03/21/2014 3:15:33 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: LookingUp
"Did you see the article on drudge where a woman in another plane saw the 777 in water below."

The lady seemed very sure that she saw a plane "on" the water, as if it had ditched at sea. If the plane "landed" on the water without breaking up it probably would not float for long and this would account for there being no debris found on the water.

28 posted on 03/21/2014 3:17:16 PM PDT by lstanle
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To: hamboy
they now ask all planes to identify early.

I'm sure a lot of countries are doing that now -- particularly China, Vietnam, Thailand ... re Malaysian planes.

29 posted on 03/21/2014 3:17:39 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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'm sure a lot of countries are doing that now? . . .

No other country than Israel. China? Neither. China enlarged their ADIZ but they maybe just playing psywar.

30 posted on 03/21/2014 4:00:00 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: naturalman1975

Easy solution............hire Tattoo


31 posted on 03/21/2014 4:57:20 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Zippy the a##clown sez..............)
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To: FAA

My Theory: 1. It was a hijacking for the Chinese islamic group wouling with the pilot. 2. They were to fly to Sirlanka (formerly Celon) land in Tamil Tiger controlled country. 3. The passesgers got wind of it—stormed the cocpit of the plane and it went down in the Indian Oceam.


32 posted on 03/21/2014 5:08:45 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: DocJhn

I believe that Boeing has evidence that the engines ran for an additional 7 hours.


33 posted on 03/21/2014 5:12:36 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn

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Malaysia Airlines flight MH370

MH370: US officials say plane sent signals ‘hours’ after losing contact – live

Unnamed officials describe automatic transmissions
White House says Indian Ocean possible ‘new search area’
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Matthew Weaver in London and Tom McCarthy in New York
theguardian.com, Thursday 13 March 2014 18.07 EDT

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Malaysia’s acting transport minister Hishammuddin Hussein briefs the media on Thursday on the latest developments in the search for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. Reports that the plane continued for several hours after losing contact were inaccurate, Hussein says. He says no debris has been found where Chinese satellite’s detected large objects on Sunday. The search teams have found nothing from any of the other potential leads

7.13pm ET

This blog has ended. Please follow continuing coverage here.

6.07pm ET
Summary

• Malaysia Airlines flight 370 continued to send automatic status transmissions for hours after the plane lost contact with ground control, possibly indicating the plane remained in flight during that time, unnamed US officials told reporters.

• The search for the jet, which disappeared carrying 239 passengers and crew, was set to enter its seventh day. The search effort now comprises dozens of ships and aircraft from 12 nations over an area of 35,800 square miles (92,600 square kilometers).

• The search intensified in the Indian Ocean, where the United States said it was deploying additional ships and aircraft.

• Earlier Thursday, Malaysian officials said reports that the plane stayed in the air for hours after losing contact were “inaccurate”. The officials have not commented on the latest claims by US officials.

5.36pm ET

The “new information” that Press Secretary Jay Carney referred to today was “that the plane’s engines remained running for approximately four hours after it vanished from radar,” the Washington Post quotes anonymous “Obama administration officials” as saying. The information is in line with multiple reports this afternoon. The Post reports:

One senior administration official said the data showing the plane engines running hours after contact was lost came from the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System, or ACARS, a way that planes maintain contact with ground stations through radio or satellite signals. The official said Malaysian authorities shared the flight data with the administration.

Read the full piece here.

5.29pm ET

Flight MH370 sent “signals to a satellite for four hours after the aircraft went missing,” the Associated Press quotes an unnamed US official as saying:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/blog/2014/mar/13/mh370-no-sign-of-debris-detected-by-chinese-satellite-live-updates


34 posted on 03/21/2014 9:52:37 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: naturalman1975

Has anybody explained why there has been no ELT (Emergency Locator Transmitter) heard from a supposedly crashed airplane?


35 posted on 03/22/2014 8:15:01 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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