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Evolution and Global Warming vs God's Perfection (Saturbray)
www.brayincandy.com ^ | 3/22/14 | bray

Posted on 03/22/2014 7:05:46 AM PDT by bray

For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands. Isaiah 55:12

Evolution and Global Warming takes far more faith to believe than believing in God and creation. It may take a step of faith to believe in God or Jesus Christ, but the amount of blind obedience to follow such unfathomable explanations with absolutely no verification is a leap across the Pacific Ocean. To fundamentally believe animals came from fish and then those animals became man with no proof of transitory species is either blind obedience or willful ignorance. Then to take it one step further and to religiously believe that man can cause the earth to warm when by all accounts it is becoming colder makes that leap across the ocean a baby step.

Just like we have seen with institutions like Hollywierd, when they become political their product goes into the toilet, the same has happened to science. When politics touches anything it becomes corrupted and no longer is of value. There is no scientific structure in evolution it has become a method of promoting an agenda which is a Godless society. These scientists and indoctrinators no longer question the gaps in the theory and blindly promote it as fact. The giant question they have no answer for, since there had to be a million or more evolutions of species from ape to man, where they are. The same can be said for evolving from dog to horse or lizard to dog and they have yet to find a single example.

Evolution is an antiquated theory from an agrarian society that noticed every species had similar characteristics so they must be related. Not only were they related, since farmers could breed superior varieties of farm animals they theorized this must have happened over a larger scale claiming that man came from amoebas. These 19th century scientists saw that there were both male and female in every species so this is how the evolution took place through birth and evolving mutations. This was their attempt to explain away God and prove a theory of how man came about without a creator.

The more you look at this theory the more it falls apart and points to God rather than away from him. There is a far better theory that God made all of his creatures both male and female so they could reproduce and perpetuate their species. The sexes show the grand design and miraculous complexity of God rather than disproving him. If science truly were to examine itself and evolution with as much vigor as it does attempting to disprove the Bible, they would find a provable creation that has not evolved since the beginning of time and is truly miraculous. If they were truly honest they would show that the species are all connected in a design that could only be explained by God.

If this devolution theory is true, then all of those farm animals are related and the sexes are their commonality rather than their difference. If that is the case then God made a kaleidoscope of creatures that all fit together in the most intricate web that could be created. Everything works together in perfect harmony just as the creator designed and is perfection just like he is. If his animals are in harmony it is because God made a perfect world in the perfect location in space. Not some Big Bang where something came from nothing from billions of light years away to end up in the exact orbit around the exact star traveling the perfect speed to sustain the right temperature and oxygen mix. No matter how many billions of tries you get at that choreography it is never going to happen. Then on that perfect planet orbiting the perfect star you have an amoeba evolve itself to man, Right!

The even more ridiculous theory is the one algore and Ken Lay of Enron fame invented which is Global Warming. They had lost a fortune gambling that the Acid Rain fraud would make their natural gas stocks increase and when acid rain was found to not exist at all, they needed a new tool. This hoax has less documented proof than evolution and was promoted and maintained using the same tactics. They manipulated the data to make it fit the theory and then ignored anything which would disprove their man causation model. These were political activist “scientists” who wanted to stop capitalism so they believed the ends justified the manipulating the data to fit their theory.

These scientists ignored the effects of the sun as well as the energy capturing ocean and cloud cycles as well as every other obvious climate factor and focused on CO2. The politicians and investors liked it since it was a way to tax or profit on air as well as outlawing lower cost energy such as coal and gas and forcing higher less efficient resources like wind and solar to shackle industry. Once the politicians and academia as well as media reached consensus on this fraud they were able to promote it and evolve it into an agenda to manipulate the people into their belief. Heretics are called deniers and the masses are controlled into conformity. There is no scientific process and only a political agenda promoting this fundamentally and enslaving the people into their dictates.

In the end these two sciences are nothing but politics to manipulate people using 19th century theories for 21st century control. To believe these two theories you have to have a faith far beyond a simple religion. You have to cover your eyes and ears and continue repeating that Darwinism works and so does Global Warming. It is far easier and logical to have faith in a God who created everything and put this earth in a perfect rotation at the exact spot in space it would work. That he made every creature and man as a gift to man to see his perfection and strive to understand it. He made all of these creatures male and female in his miraculous perfection and the more we begin to understand his creation the more we can understand his perfect love and wisdom. We can then begin to understand why he created a heaven and hell to represent good and evil. These are concepts and science we can never fully comprehend or understand, but it makes far more sense than evolution and accidental occurrences to explain why we exist. It makes far more sense that God created us to exist with him rather than without. Understanding that takes an evolution of man.

Pray America wakes up


TOPICS: Culture/Society; FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: evolution; globalwarming; god

1 posted on 03/22/2014 7:05:46 AM PDT by bray
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; abclily; AbeKrieger; AFPhys; airborne; Alan H; Allegra; Always Right; ...

enough braying


2 posted on 03/22/2014 7:15:11 AM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
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To: bray

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


3 posted on 03/22/2014 7:29:02 AM PDT by abclily
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To: bray
I'm a little confused. I thought that Christianity teaches that the world - as it currently exists - is imperfect. That - since the Fall - the formerly perfect "clockwork" of existence has been "out of kilter." Some animals prey upon other animals, Man is inhumane to Man, childbirth is painful, the climate is less than optimal, agriculture requires toiling in the fields, etc.

So how can a Creationist so insistently claim that the Earth is "perfectly" situated? That the atmosphere has the "perfect" balance of gases? Obviously, the set-up must have changed since the Edenic Era. Can anyone explain this to me?

Regards,

4 posted on 03/22/2014 7:34:47 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

It is so cute when atheists try to explain the Bible. Please explain how evolution exists when you do not have one transitory fossil to prove it. I will wait for your dodge, but I do admire your blind faith.


5 posted on 03/22/2014 7:39:09 AM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
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To: alexander_busek

> Obviously, the set-up must have changed since the Edenic
> Era. Can anyone explain this to me?

Yes, they could, and probably have, but you weren’t, aren’t, and probably never will be, listening.


6 posted on 03/22/2014 7:39:54 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook

If I am right his entire life is wasted.


7 posted on 03/22/2014 7:42:55 AM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
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To: Westbrook; bray
It is so cute when atheists try to explain the Bible. [...] I will wait for your dodge

Now, that's a dodge!

I wasn't trying to "explain" the Bible. I am more than willing to admit that my understanding of the Bible and/or mainstream Christian dogma is exceedingly poor. That's why I was asking for some clarification: Isn't any pro-Creationist argument which cites the impossibly "perfect condition" of Earth in fact anti-Biblical? Is, according to mainstream dogma, the Earth not in fact in a "lousy" state?

Yes, they could, and probably have, but you weren’t, aren’t, and probably never will be, listening.

And you know all that about me because...?

Regards,

8 posted on 03/22/2014 7:51:53 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: bray

Actually Global Warming and Creationism are the same

Creationism was rebranded as “Intelligent Design”
Global Warming was rebranded as “Climate Change”

Both sides claim Atheist to their religion are “Denying” their religion/God because they want to live in sin and/or have no accountability for their sins. One side’s sins are sexual, the other’s Capitalism.

Jimmy Swaggart, Oral Roberts, Jim & Tammy Faye,
James Hansen, Gavin Schmidt, Al & Tipper Gore

God works in mysterious ways
It’s weather not climate

The Garden of Eden
The Noble Savage

Eating of the Apple
Invention of the internal combustion engine

Jesus Ascended into the sky and will come back one day and bring on Armageddon
Global Warming descended into the deep ocean and will come back one day and bring on Armageddon

There’s no Transitional fossils
There’s no Pause in Global Warming

Indulgences
Carbon Credits


9 posted on 03/22/2014 7:57:00 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: alexander_busek

> And you know all that about me because...?

...of your very typical reply.


10 posted on 03/22/2014 8:05:33 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: alexander_busek

We know about you because you are using the same old liberal atheistic arguments. I do not have to explain the Bible because the Bible explains the Bible. I am stating God is perfect and his perfection put the earth in the perfect rotation in the perfect spot in all of space. How does your Big Band explain that?

Why do you believe a dogma which says that animals evolved when you have absolutely no fossil proof of one animal evolving to another? There would have to be millions of mutations littering the earth and you cannot produce one verifiable example.

Prove evolution if there is no God. Prove it to a skeptic if it is a fact.

Pray America wakes up


11 posted on 03/22/2014 8:06:23 AM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
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To: qam1

They are different, one is a religion worshiping God and the other is a cult worshiping the earth. Well said!


12 posted on 03/22/2014 8:09:07 AM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
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To: qam1

What you disingenuously omitted is that the fellow travelers of Evolutionism also that give us AGW.

Creationists vigorously disagree with AGW.

Evolutionists, as a whole, agree with it.


13 posted on 03/22/2014 8:10:36 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: bray

http://www.transitionalfossils.com/


14 posted on 03/22/2014 8:21:10 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: bray
Unfortunately you appear to be perpetuating the unscientific myth that CO2 is not a radiative gas or that increasing the trace amounts of radiative gases cannot warm the bulk atmosphere. The actual debate between calm scientists like Judy Curry on one side and alarmists like James Hansen on the other side is whether the warming from mankind's extra CO2 matters.

The current evidence is that it does not. The current rise in global temperature is about 0.08C per decade (less than 1C in a century) which is trivial. It is also well below model predictions. The models cannot model weather and because of that they have failed to predict the lull in warming and also mistook the more rapid warming in the 80's and 90's as manmade when in fact it was partly natural from terrestrial ocean cycles (more El Nino) and increased solar activity during the 20th century.

The key point is that AGW is not a "hoax" but Dangerous AGW is a myth. Not only does DAGW not exist in the real world, most alleged consequences of DAGW like rapid warming of the Arctic or "extreme weather" are at least partly if not mostly natural. In the case of the Arctic it follows patterns that are evident in 10,000 years of fossil records. In the case of extreme weather the weather is certainly not as extreme as the 30's, and if anything we have had more benign weather than the historical norm (see Pielke Jr who shows that costs from weather events are flat or decreasing).

15 posted on 03/22/2014 8:23:04 AM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: Fuzz

Oh please, you really aren’t going to throw those fakes up as evidence are you? What next Nebraska man?

Every one of those have been shown to be faked. Plug in one of those names with the word fake or fraud and you will find the truth.


16 posted on 03/22/2014 8:40:46 AM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
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To: bray

Silly me.


17 posted on 03/22/2014 9:49:48 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

No, you are busted for spreading lies. That website may work for 8th graders but anyone else knows those are fake.


18 posted on 03/22/2014 11:29:20 AM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
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To: bray

Of course. Good job catching that.


19 posted on 03/22/2014 11:34:32 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

Really, you have a website that has Tiktaalik on it. Did you not even look at these fakes?

If there is no God, why are you atheists always so threatened by anyone who does believe in your cult?

Pray America wakes up


20 posted on 03/22/2014 12:49:12 PM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
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To: bray

“Really, you have a website that has Tiktaalik on it. Did you not even look at these fakes?”

Obviously I’m unable to see through the diabolical conspiracy of the fossil mafia.

“If there is no God, why are you atheists always so threatened by anyone who does believe in your cult?”

I don’t know what that means, but I hear ya. Sometimes we’re just so busy trying to destroy all that is good in the world through science we forget about effectively trying to enslave people into doing our dictates.


21 posted on 03/22/2014 1:16:51 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz
You mean like the 200 million that were killed last century thanks to the worship of evolution?? You mean that Holocaust that atheism created? Is that the one you are attempting to laugh off? You laughing off the fact that we are required to worship your myth. You laughing off Global Warming and the enslavement it represents. Are those the big jokes you are having so much fun laughing at?
22 posted on 03/22/2014 1:39:18 PM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
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To: bray

I chuckled a little at that, but probably not in the way you imagine.


23 posted on 03/22/2014 1:46:46 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

Of course you would laugh, you believe you are more evolved than us Christians. If you didn’t laugh it off you would be forced to think.

So where is that transitory fossil?

Pray America is Waking Up


24 posted on 03/22/2014 3:17:59 PM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
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To: bray

“Of course you would laugh, you believe you are more evolved than us Christians.”

If you could possibly refrain from telling me what I am and what I ‘believe’, I’d appreciate it.


25 posted on 03/22/2014 3:25:22 PM PDT by Fuzz
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Science itself can’t “destroy what is good.”

MISUSE of it can.

It seems weird that men can go off on sci-fi kicks like Star Trek and not blink an eyebrow, but when God does what Scotty can’t (change the laws of physics) everybody says TILT!


26 posted on 03/22/2014 3:29:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“It seems weird that men can go off on sci-fi kicks like Star Trek and not blink an eyebrow, but when God does what Scotty can’t (change the laws of physics) everybody says TILT!”

That is weird.


27 posted on 03/22/2014 3:33:02 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

God’s works look weird to the world.

That’s because the world has been trying to establish its own house, independent of God. And it never quite succeeds.


28 posted on 03/22/2014 3:36:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Fuzz
That Cowboy's Weird
29 posted on 03/22/2014 3:38:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Fuzz
“It seems weird that men can go off on sci-fi kicks like Star Trek and not blink an eyebrow, but when God does what Scotty can’t (change the laws of physics) everybody says TILT!”

Fuzz:

That is weird.

bray and Westbrook seem to be spoiling for a (verbal) fight. I genuinely don't understand why they replied to my honest QUESTION with attacks dripping with so much self-righteous hostility. I can only shake my head in sadness at such demonstrations of raw odium mixed with smugness coming from nominal Christians. It is at once both sad and somewhat creepy.

qam1, on the other hand, seems only somewhat "off the wall."

Your mirthful replies brought a smile to my lips.

Regards,

30 posted on 03/23/2014 3:24:09 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Ah the old I am objective and everyone else has an agenda routine. Perhaps you can answer the question, why do you believe something so fundamentally when there is absolutely no solid proof to validate it?

Anyone who doesn’t bow to your gods is spoiling for a fight, yeah we get it.

Pray America wakes up


31 posted on 03/23/2014 6:59:33 AM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 order here: http://braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: bray
Perhaps you can answer the question, why do you believe something so fundamentally when there is absolutely no solid proof to validate it?

Please point out to me where in my initial reply in this thread or anywhere thereafter I made claim to any "fundamental belief" whatsoever.

There, I didn't think so.

Regards,

32 posted on 03/23/2014 1:06:42 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Atheism is a fundamental belief in either earth worship or belief in evolution which is essentially the same side. Your sanctimony gives you away as a fundamental atheist. Nice attempt at denial though.

Regards to you


33 posted on 03/23/2014 3:12:14 PM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 order here: http://braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: bray
Your sanctimony gives you away as a fundamental atheist.

Whereas your posts do not evince even the slightest trace of sanctimony...

Regards,

34 posted on 03/23/2014 10:04:12 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Good, since they are an inspiration from the Holy Spirit.

How can you believe you are so superior to everyone else when you are believing a dying religion like Darwinism. Even science is starting to move away from it due to the obvious lack of evidence. It is truly a 19th century agrarian theory that does not stand up to the slightest scrutiny.

Regards to you


35 posted on 03/24/2014 5:12:16 AM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 order here: http://braylog.com/id47.html)
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Good, since they are an inspiration from the Holy Spirit.

Why didn't you begin this thread with this Earth-shattering revelation? After all, it's so exaspirating, arguing with someone who seems unsusceptible to reason, only to later be informed that he is in fact divinely inspired.

You know, you could have saved us all a lot of time and trouble by announcing from the get-go that you are only relaying the whisperings of God.

Regards,

36 posted on 03/24/2014 9:54:54 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Well most people who read my posts already understand that. Not to mention most who read it are Christians and understand that God does not whisper as you say. You are not the audience, we are.

When are you going to be as skeptical of your cult as you are with Christianity. Why does my little post bother you so much. If there is no God as you claim, why does my belief bother you so dramatically?

Perhaps my post has way too much truth for you. How can you claim Darwinism isn’t anything but an ancient dying theory? You atheists continue to try to push this rope uphill and use the same old tired tactics of laughing at anyone who worships God.

If you think God is a joke, prove he doesn’t exist.


37 posted on 03/24/2014 10:14:43 AM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 order here: http://braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: alexander_busek

Uh, don’t look down at your feet then b/c with evolution it’s like you have no feet - you’re just like uhh levitating.

With evolution their is no foundation, biogenesis is considered out of bounds, no discussion allowed, and you just have to assume a cell, or just maybe you could assume the whole Cambrian explosion if you’re so willing to assume anyways...


38 posted on 03/24/2014 7:03:45 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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