Skip to comments.What does Vladimir Putin want next?
Posted on 03/22/2014 10:48:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Simferopol, Crimea (CNN) -- Is Russian President Vladimir Putin an opportunist, grabbing at chances to poke the West in the eye, or a clever strategist with the longer-term goal of restoring a greater Russia? Is he simply riding a tide of Russian patriotic fervor over Crimea? Is he a rational actor aware of the delicate balances within the international system, or as one observer put it, "drunk on power" and oblivious to sanctions?
These are the questions preoccupying western governments and Russia's neighbors, after the swift annexation of Crimea and Russian military maneuvers close to the Ukrainian border.
There were some tantalizing clues in Putin's pugnacious speech to the Duma this week. He described the fall of the Soviet Union as unfortunate -- because it had separated Russians. "The Russian nation became one of the biggest, if not the biggest ethnic group in the world to be divided by borders," he said.
"It was only when Crimea ended up as part of a different country that Russia realized that it was not simply robbed, it was plundered." He went on to say, "if you compress the spring all the way to its limit, it will snap back hard."
Heady, populist rhetoric -- but it has propelled the Russian President to his highest approval rating -- 71% -- in recent years, according to the Russian Public Opinion Research Center.
Putin said Russia had no intention of violating Ukraine's sovereignty (beyond the 5% of its territory it has absorbed this week.) "Do not believe those who want you to fear Russia, shouting that other regions will follow Crimea," he told Ukrainians.
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In other words, if the Kremlin believes Russians are being discriminated against, Ukraine's independence is no longer assured.
Those words will have echoed across parts of the former Soviet Union with large Russian populations...'
What does Vladimir Putin want next?
Well, the dimwitted Obama had best be figuring it out real quick. Putin wants all he can easily take. And he will take all he can when there's no one there to stop him. A pen and a phone ain't cutting it.
He's on a mission from God. Putting the USSR back together.
I dunno but my wife is pretty smart -- I'll ask 'er!
(That's an Alaska joke, you know.)
A V8? Something on a crisp Ritz Cracker?
The bear claws are mightier than the pen, here.
“it has propelled the Russian President to his highest approval rating — 71%”
According to the latest poll two days ago, Putin’s approval rating is 75.7% - his highest in the last five years.
Any Russian patriot would behave as Putin is behaving with such an overwhelming winning hand of cards re oil and gas.
It’s not a matter of being a better chessplayer than Obama. An amateur would defeat a grandmaster if the amateur has overwhelming board material and position. He does.
I’m voting “Estonia.” He’s already complaining about the way poor “Russians” are treated there. But I think Putin will push at the weakest link next, wherever he perceives that to be.
You got it Jim, that’s where were at.
He wants to be the stud that leads a dominant nation to glory. He has nothing but contempt for LGBT poofters, believing that they sap the willpower of a nation.
What does Vladimir Putin want next?
For Obama to get a third term?
It doesn’t matter what Putin wants, he’ll get it, because our president is as weak as the image he projects. And doesn’t care — he’s more interested in March Madness or planning his next vacation.
And we can’t impeach the SOB because there’s no political will, because he’s half black.
No 'butts' about it.
Since the last military operation in Afghanistan, at the time of Soviet Union in 1980, Russia hasn't invaded any country, contrary to the allegations in the Western media. Russia didn't "invade" Chechenya, wich was included in the Imperial Russia in 1859. Russia didn't "invade" South Ossetia, which was an automoumous provice and declared independence at the break of the Soviet Union in 1991, and it's still an independent Republic, not part of Russia. Russia didn't "invade" Crimea, it already had there some 17,000 troops according to the treaty signed with Ukraine in 1994. Crimea has been part of Catherine the Great' Imperial Russia since 1774.
At that time of the Imperial Russia, the actual Eastern and South Ukraine, called "Malorussia" (Little Russia) was integral part of the Russian Empire since 1654, the natural border being on Dniepr river. With this data in mind, one can understand Putin's foreign policy. He is not interested in Latvians , Poles or other Ruthenians (inhabitants of Western Ukraine), but only in rebuilding his country prosperity and greatness as he understands it.
Residents of Estonia by ethnicity.
Belarusians 1.1% Finns 0.8%
It’s clear that Putin loves his country and the things that he thinks made it great. Obastard hates our country and everything we think made it great.
Whatever iit is, Obama will handed over in a NY minute.
I don't think he is. At least he didn't start out to.
Let's not forget who started this mess. Everything was quiet. The this group of protesters were able to overthrow the Ukrainian government. The ones in charge now wanted to be part of the EU. The fact that there are so many Russian leaning citizens forced Putin's hand. Crimea was a give me. Eastern Ukraine could be pretty easy. After that can't say.
All I know is I don't want our boys and girls involved unless it's in our national interest.
How large was Tsarist Russia, compared to the USSR?
How many ‘Stan’s are bordered to Russia?
If Vladimir Putin said, “A Russia for all Russians.”, and with the USSR, how many Russians are located in those bordering areas, outside of the old Warsaw Pact nations?
We became involved the moment Obama was elected, won the “Peace Prize” and then commenced destroying our economy and our military. Weakness does not impress the Evil Empires of the world.
At least 25 million. That’s not a group a country with a rapidly declining population like Russia can afford to overlook.
More than even land, Russia needs more people. I’m surprised the West hasn’t figured it out yet.
As I said back when this started, everything Southeast of the Dneiper, most especially the Donetsk region, because of the Heavy Industry and critical minerals of this area.
Again, Russian majority, and largely unhappy with the government in Kiev.
Another violent incident or two is all it is going to take for Putin to act here, especially after the non-response of the West.
I think the left hated Reagan winning the cold war and has been working to reverse that victory ever since. The key to halting the process is dropping the price of oil and gas, as that is what has always funded the Russian war machine.
It’s important to remember that Russia didn’t act in Crimea until the legit government fell, and the new one started pronouncing anti-Russian rhetoric, and demanding the end of the Russian language in Ukraine.
This just didn’t start overnight. It has been building for some time, as the same groups that destabilized Tunisia, Libya, and Egypt, went to work in Ukraine, including the US Government.
Access to Crimea from Russia - Ukraine stands in the way. I don't expect Putin to invade, since I don't think he'll need to. He already has the Ukrainian gov't pretty well cowed into submission.
Access to Mediterranean from Crimea: Turkey has already threatened to close the Straits of Bosporus to Russian shipping due to the Crimean situation. That can't sit well with Putin. Turkey will be a much tougher nut for Putin to crack, IMHO.
“Turkey has already threatened to close the Straits of Bosporus to Russian shipping due to the Crimean situation. That can’t sit well with Putin.”
Turkey has its hands full with internal problems right now.
Up against the Russian border, Ida-Viru county in Estonia is about 73% ethnic Russian. The other 14 counties in Estonia are largely Estonian.
Putin could probably walk in and take Ida-Viru but that might be his last play. No other region in Eastern Europe outside of Russia has a majority ethnic Russians.
Any other region besides Ida-Viru in Estonia(73% Russian) and Crimea in Ukraine(57% Russian) would be an entirely different circumstance.
“Another violent incident or two is all it is going to take for Putin to act here, especially after the non-response of the West.”
It’s not just ‘non-response’. Western leftists are actually complicit, and this definitively includes the current administration.
I am worried that we are too far along this path at his point, and that there is a dwindling chance that we can get beyond this without a substantial reordering of the world. There has never been, in history, a more destructive sociopolitical force than that fueled by the delusional disciples of Marx and his fellow travelers.
No. Only Crimea Oblast has a Russian majority in Ukraine.
Thanks. Did not know that about Ida-Viru but it makes sense.
I don’t know that Putin is a chess player or not but I would guess he is because chess is very much into the Russian culture. I think Putin with a pawn and one other board piece of his choice would/could wipe out Obama with full board. Obama is less than a lightweight in anything except talking the game. At least the Russians have a reality about their oil and gas while the powers that be in the USA, Obama being the latest representative, would rather have the USA beholding to others especially the Arab Muslims.
Two more terms of Obozo as president, aka FDR.
Then, the new Russia, not the old USSR, will be the dominant power in the world. America will have slipped into the post America status, where gays and other mentally ill rats rule what's left of our country.
Russia really doesn't have any good cards to play. Uncle Sam is so much stronger than Russia on the conventional front that the US could deal with the problem without breaking a sweat, and that means merely arming the Ukrainians. Putin is bluffing on the assumption that Obama doesn't want any foreign policy entanglements. If Obama decides to act, Putin will fall all over himself backing down. And that's why Putin has been measured in his actions - he doesn't want to rouse Obama out of his languor.
I am about to post an article from National Review by Andrew McCarthy that explains the history that has enabled Putin to make these aggressive moves in the region and how the US foreign policy played right into his hands.
A little piece of Poland,
A little piece of France,
A little piece of Austria
And Hungary, perchance!
A little slice of Turkey
And all that that entails,
And then a bit of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales!
Stephen Harper is the Leader of the Free World.
Crimea is landlocked. Access overland will require more of the Eastern Ukraine.
An understanding with Germany.
Watch as Putin Moves into south Black Sea—put pressure on Turkey (maybe get Hagia Sophia back as a church). Russia will become the good friend of the Slavic Peoples once again. Watch as he moves into Africa and South America.
“What does Putin want next?”
The same he wants every night, Pinky....TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!
Oh, you mean the US?
Partially true. In a post-America world (thanks to comrade Obama), Putin wants to ensure Russia is the world’s dominant superpower.