Posted on 03/22/2014 2:46:47 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
How much weight should our opposition to abortion carry in our voting decisions?
God calls us to think His thoughts after Him. That means all of His thoughts. That is, we ought to have a sound and biblical view on everything the Bible touches on. Where it touches on political issues, we are called, again to have sound biblical views. We need to think biblically about what is just war and what is not. We need to think faithfully about taxation, and the size and scope of government. We need to think through what obligation, if any the state has to protect property, to protect our lives.
That said, there are precious few things that frustrate me more about the evangelical right than its utter foolishness with respect to proportion politically. We bundle together this issue and that, everything from tax rates to school vouchers to flag burning to abortion, and call it “family values.” There is a right and a wrong answer on all these issues. But abortion is not like any of the others. It stands out all on its own. In a hundred years, the Christian church will not hang its head in shame that it did so little to pass a Constitutional Amendment against the burning of the flag. In a hundred years, no elderly Christian will be looked at with suspicion by the younger generation because they didn’t do more to lower the tax rate. In a hundred years, if God should be so gracious, we will be looked upon as that godless generation of the church that watched tens of millions of babies go to their deaths. Indeed, we’ll be remembered as those “Christians” who elected men to office who believed that the state ought to protect the rights of some mothers to murder their babies.
It is unfair to draw too tight a comparison between abortion in America and the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. There are significant differences. First, the Holocaust was carried out, by and large, in secret. The rank and file Germans had no idea what was going on. We, on the other hand, every last one of us, woke up today knowing that four thousand babies would die today. We, on the other hand, have four thousand mothers, every day, who knowingly do this. We, on the other hand, have four thousand fathers, boyfriends and husbands who every day encourage this. The Holocaust lasted roughly ten years, and the Nazi’s killed roughly six million people. We, on the other hand, have been at this for 35 years, and have killed more than fifty million babies. It is an unfair comparison, unfair to the Nazis. We are far worse monsters.
How much weight should our opposition carry? I have purposed in my heart that I would never vote for a man for any office that is not committed to using every power at his disposal to protect and defend every unborn child. Never. Ever. If every Christian would simply make that simple pledge, then we would win this battle. As it stands, at best we vote for candidates who might nominate or support judicial candidates who might vote for this small impediment or that to abortion on demand. At worst, we vote for the guy with the R by his name. We need to get rid of our strategies, and get on our knees in repentance. We need to stop negotiating with candidates over the bodies of dead babies.
I have no problem with any of those proposals. After 55 million dead babies you’re worried about the slippery slope in the other direction? We need some perspective here.
“There’s something worse than murder in this world. That something is refusing salvation.”
When you murder others, you rob others of their earthly life and liberty. When you refuse salvation, you may rob yourself of heavenly life and liberty. I would say that refusing salvation is akin to refusing a sales pitch of a wonderful product that could help you in the future. Clearly, that is not in the same class as murdering someone, especially the innocent unborn!
Disagree. On the basis of the bible itself. Unforgivable vs. forgivable sin.
If it is between a pro life and a pro baby killing candidate, always vote pro life.
If both or pro death, vote for the Republican. (They have at least a chance of voting right due to party pressure later.
“On the basis of the bible itself. Unforgivable vs. forgivable sin.”
Thankfully, the laws of the US are earthly laws. You will have to wait for your death to find out the constitution of the heaven(The Bible) to start.
No, the Nazis killed roughly six million Jews.
And seven million other Communists, Gypsies, homosexuals, and others deemed inconsistent with the ‘glories’ of the Third Reich.
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Well put! Thank you.
In comparison to our abortion numbers, the Nazis were mere pikers, however.
Nope, they are revealed now and we are told to live by them now.
Casuistry only steers you to hell, and that begins with hell on earth, you can’t even say you have managed to put it off till eternity.
But the greatest mass-murderer of all may very well be Rachel Carson.
you can’t do anything if you don’t have a majority.
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True: But, if you would, please clarify just what it is you mean by “majority.”
Surely, you cannot mean we should merely settle for a majority of elected officials who haven an “R” after their names?
How many times have we been sold down the river by alleged “Rs” who voted “D” . . . When it REALLY mattered?
Answer: Far too often.
We need to elect officials who are uncompromising in their opposition to abortion.
Whether abortion is opposed via Federal or state legislation is a matter for debate. However, in keeping with the letter and spirit of the Constitution, I believe it better legislated at the State level.
Lest we forget, prior to the infamous Roe V. Wade decision, abortion was outlawed in something like 47 to 50 states. Roe v Wade overturned the laws of almost 50 states..., and this country has never since recovered.
Currently, abortion is legally practiced in all 50 states — though, I would hope, not for long here in Texas, Deo Volonte!
make that “47 to 49 states”
The only lasting victory will come from defunding the Left. With every passing year, the Dems get more people who are dependent upon government, and willing to vote the Dem line.
I could see the Dems offering a bargain: they would agree to not oppose the elimination of all government support for abortion, along with larger restrictions on abortion access, in exchange for our side not opposing a large expansion of government. Then, five years later when the Dems have leveraged this expansion to secure complete control of all branches, they cancel what they initially agreed to, and make abortion-on-demand to the 9th month a federally funded entitlement.
What will the remaining Christians of the 22nd Century think of you then? That you were noble to seek a short term victory, or that you were fools for losing the long-term war?
I appreciate your point, but if you look at the democRATS, they are all true believers, so their aliegence is never questioned, and the leadership manages to hold the line and enforce party discipline on their members who stray.
Republicans never seem to learn that lesson. The squishy R’s never seem to feel the pressure that they should. Juan McAmnesty and Lindsey Graham leap to mind but there are others as well. Gingrich did enforce some unity/loyalty to a large degree while he was speaker, yet Hastert the Bastert and even Boner never have.
This is really the issue you are addressing, and that is a function of the leader and who is able to manage enough allies to become speaker. The Whip so some degree needs to be the enforcer, and remind those members who go soft, that they will not be around in the next term if they run afoul of the agenda.
I don’t think that announcing their opposition to abortion is going to get ignored my the democRAT media, they will get trashed by the democRAT media, and thus will not get elected at all. Better to not discuss it like the democRATS do, give assurances that they are not going to ban it when questioned like the democRATS do with gun control, and then once elected just go ahead and do it like the democRATS do.
I agree that this is a state issue but we need to win national elections to appoint Federal judges who believe that this is a state issue.
Then you are officially 'pro-choice'.
That is a non-response, it is simply a way of saying you support abortion and the end of marriage.
Abortion is just “medicine” and gay marriage in the military, federal employment, and immigration is a state by state issue.
You sure have some crazy ideas.
not probably!
The most anti-God, perverse post of all, is the one trying to convince voters to not vote against abortion and to protect marriage, all the while pretending that it is for God.
Christians should always vote in a way that represents their Christian faith.
Vote as a Christian.
The right to life is first for a reason. If a candidate can’t get the most important one right, I can’t trust him or her to be strong on any of the others.
As with Amnesty,100%. Both positions render the candidate at least highly untrustworthy on all other apparently conservative positions.
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