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Iranís replica of a US aircraft carrier puzzles Navy officials
Stars and Stripes ^ | Mar 21, 2014 | By Hendrick Simoes

Posted on 03/22/2014 3:01:57 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

MANAMA, Bahrain — Iran is building a replica of a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier at a shipyard on the Persian Gulf near the Strait of Hormuz, U.S. 5th Fleet officials said.

The mock-up of the aircraft carrier was first noticed last summer, 5th Fleet officials said, but it wasn’t until February that they saw the number 68 painted on it — the same number of the USS Nimitz, which was deployed in the region last summer.

“It’s interesting to us that they would be building something like this ... this is a head-scratcher more than anything,” said Cmdr Jason Salata, Navy 5th Fleet spokesman. He said the Navy is not particularly concerned about it.

The New York Times first reported on the mysterious vessel on Thursday.

A recent commercial satellite image shows the vessel with similar lines painted on top of it that a real aircraft carrier might have. There also appear to be three aircraft atop the structure.

Officials believe the mock-up is comprised of barges with steel construction to replicate the hull, and superstructure of a carrier. It’s about two-thirds the size of an actual Nimitz class carrier, which is about 1,092 feet in length.

Navy officials said they are sure it’s not a real aircraft carrier, but they are puzzled about Iran’s intent in replicating such a large American warship.

“If it’s designed for strategic effect, to what effect?” Salata said. The New York Times suggested Iran might use it to make a propaganda point, possibly to fire a missile at it as part a training exercise to be broadcast on state-run media.

Other countries, including the United States, have used land runways to simulate carrier operations. China has even built a mock-up of its sole carrier atop a training building near Wuhan, about 400 miles inland from the East China Sea. That facility appears intended to train crews in handling aircraft, logistics and weapons, as well as hangar placements.

The continuing rapprochement between Iran and the United States and its Western allies has been highlighted by the interim nuclear deal reached last November by which Tehran agreed to halt certain nuclear activities in exchange for limited relief from sanctions. Negotiations are continuing on a comprehensive accord that would ensure that Iran’s civilian nuclear program could not be used for military purposes.

As talks on Iran’s nuclear program continue next month in Vienna, the political and security situations in the Persian Gulf region remain delicate. Despite the winding down of the war in Afghanistan, U.S. officials have sought in recent months to reassure Gulf allies that the U.S. is fully committed to the region, irking Iranian officials who question America’s motives.

Earlier this month Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif criticized the U.S. military posture in the Persian Gulf in a meeting with reporters in Tokyo.

“We do not believe presence of foreign forces is conducive to security,” he said.

This spring, two more U.S. Coastal Patrol ships are expected to homeport at the U.S. naval base in Bahrain, which is in the midst of a $260 million expansion.

The U.S. Navy is not seeking confrontation in the Gulf, said Salata.

“We feel that there is a balance of force that we need to do our mission,” which Navy officials commonly describes as partnering with allies in the region for maritime security.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aircraftcarrier; iran; israel; lebanon; russia; syria; waronterror
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1 posted on 03/22/2014 3:01:57 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Is it really that much of a mystery?


2 posted on 03/22/2014 3:04:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
1. Blow it up (with video), and use for propaganda.
2. Terrorist training.
3 posted on 03/22/2014 3:06:00 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: BenLurkin
Is it really that much of a mystery?

Enlighten us.

4 posted on 03/22/2014 3:06:21 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Jet Jaguar

They’re rehearsing to steal it. The problem with putting Airdales in command of carriers is that they never remember to take the keys with them when they park them.


5 posted on 03/22/2014 3:06:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Lower Deck

Practice, I’d say.


6 posted on 03/22/2014 3:07:16 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

~~~this is a head-scratcher more than anything,” said Cmdr Jason Salata, Navy 5th Fleet spokesman~~~

Yeah, that’s REAL complicated, ain’t it Jason? I hope you were just using PC-speak and aren’t that dumb.


7 posted on 03/22/2014 3:07:39 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: grobdriver
Practice, I’d say.

Practice for what?

8 posted on 03/22/2014 3:08:12 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Billthedrill

Once they get the tailhook welded onto flight 370 they’re going to practice.


9 posted on 03/22/2014 3:08:36 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Jet Jaguar

Obviously it’s for boarding practice. They’ve got those swarms of little speed boats and somebody over there is having delusions about capturing a US carrier.


10 posted on 03/22/2014 3:09:06 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Jet Jaguar
Ummmm...Just to answer most questions, Because the Iranian leadership is touched in the head maybe.
11 posted on 03/22/2014 3:09:15 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Billthedrill

Of course it’s for propaganda. A 5 second video clip of a missile exploding it is all they need.


12 posted on 03/22/2014 3:09:25 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: F15Eagle
Yeah, that’s REAL complicated, ain’t it Jason?

Doesn't make a lot of sense.

13 posted on 03/22/2014 3:09:35 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: GeronL; KC_Lion; txhurl; nuconvert; SkyDancer

Ping


14 posted on 03/22/2014 3:09:57 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Jet Jaguar

The mullahs use as a visual to gyrate their gherkins in jihadist fantasy..


15 posted on 03/22/2014 3:11:12 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: 1rudeboy

Practice target for their Kilos?


16 posted on 03/22/2014 3:11:18 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Jet Jaguar

Build it, then test if they can hit it with a missile.


17 posted on 03/22/2014 3:11:21 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: Jeff Head

Ping


18 posted on 03/22/2014 3:11:28 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: BenLurkin

I had a good reason within seconds. They must not be too smart.


19 posted on 03/22/2014 3:11:35 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Jet Jaguar

20 posted on 03/22/2014 3:11:58 PM PDT by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: grobdriver

My guess also. Practice for an attack.


21 posted on 03/22/2014 3:12:39 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Lower Deck

Neither did the Japanese making a mock-up of Pearl Harbor.

Unless...


22 posted on 03/22/2014 3:15:03 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle
Unless...

Unless?

23 posted on 03/22/2014 3:16:21 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: SeeSharp

Wouldn’t any potential boarding party have to run the gauntlet of the screen of accompanying ships that make up a carrier group? That would take a set of extremely huge nads to pull that off.


24 posted on 03/22/2014 3:16:26 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (I am proud of what America USED TO BE.)
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To: Lower Deck

Sorry it’s too complicated. Apparently.


25 posted on 03/22/2014 3:16:55 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle
Sorry it’s too complicated. Apparently.

Well we don't all have your vivid imagination I guess.

26 posted on 03/22/2014 3:18:12 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Lower Deck

Nor your denseness, I guess.


27 posted on 03/22/2014 3:18:35 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Lower Deck

hijacking, bombing, underwater mine ops, decoy, etc.


28 posted on 03/22/2014 3:19:29 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: NCC-1701
Wouldn’t any potential boarding party have to run the gauntlet of the screen of accompanying ships that make up a carrier group?

Well, yes, not to mention that the flight deck is about 60 feet up off the water.

29 posted on 03/22/2014 3:20:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Vinnie

I wonder whether they’re building a low-tech carrier, maybe conventionally powered with a limited launch capability.

Just to try stuff out.

Remember they’re starting out. I think maybe they’re using another approach than other competitors.

Just a wild guess is all.


30 posted on 03/22/2014 3:21:01 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I suspect that the mockup is being used for developing image recognition software and systems for reconaissance satellites and guided missiles.


31 posted on 03/22/2014 3:21:41 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: rabidralph
hijacking, bombing, underwater mine ops, decoy, etc.

Hijack a carrier? You can use anything for a bombing target. Not sure what you mean by 'underwater mine ops' but if you mean that they're going to try and figure out how to attach a mine and sink it then they would have to duplicate the strength and structure of a Nimitz class carrier and you don't do that with a couple of barges welded together. Decoy for what, the other Iranian carriers?

32 posted on 03/22/2014 3:24:02 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: F15Eagle
Nor your denseness, I guess.

You're not going to indulge us with your strategic brilliance and naval know-how, are you?

33 posted on 03/22/2014 3:25:18 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: NCC-1701

Right. Their only hope of even getting on board would be to stage an operation against the ship while it’s in port. At sea they’d never even get close.


34 posted on 03/22/2014 3:25:19 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Lower Deck

Same reason USN built the Muroc Maru
http://www.weirdca.com/location.php?location=511


35 posted on 03/22/2014 3:25:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Lower Deck

Not with a dense n00b like yourself.


36 posted on 03/22/2014 3:25:51 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Send in the frogmen. Sink it one minute after it’s set afloat!


37 posted on 03/22/2014 3:26:21 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Kenny Bunk

KENNY BUNK CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION.


38 posted on 03/22/2014 3:26:47 PM PDT by golux
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I hope they post the video to youtube. There will only be one take.


39 posted on 03/22/2014 3:27:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
Same reason USN built the Muroc Maru

Sure. Makes perfect sense.

40 posted on 03/22/2014 3:28:16 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: F15Eagle

http://www.wiod.com/onair/the-cefalo-blog-2336/video-gay-soldiers-perform-1st-drag-12118586/

The armed forces are devolving rapidly


41 posted on 03/22/2014 3:28:19 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: F15Eagle
Not with a dense n00b like yourself.

Of course not.

42 posted on 03/22/2014 3:29:01 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Rome2000

Not surprised that was next.


43 posted on 03/22/2014 3:29:16 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Jet Jaguar

44 posted on 03/22/2014 3:29:44 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: Lower Deck

You got it n00b.

Or are you a retread?


45 posted on 03/22/2014 3:30:03 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Lower Deck
Enlighten us.

Last time I landed on a US Navy carrier, it did not have a bulls-eye painted in the middle of the flight deck or on either side hull plating.

Iran wants to have its pilots train by making bomb/gun runs on a realistic target.


46 posted on 03/22/2014 3:30:12 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: Jet Jaguar

No Mystery:

They just downloaded the plans to a 3D Printer, anyone can do it!

Do I need a /S tag!


47 posted on 03/22/2014 3:31:25 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: 1rudeboy; neverdem; Nachum; SunkenCiv

Realistic target to dive airplanes into....

You think the kamikaze pilots would have been more effective with more than “one” diving attack to learn from?

Sure, the kamikaze pilots were (almost always) combat pilots (not one-flight rookies) but they had never been dive bombers before.


48 posted on 03/22/2014 3:31:43 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: golux
Were I not at work on a hush-hush project to build several replica Nimitz Class Carriers, I would have time to answer. But then, I would have to shoot you.

My boat yard also builds fiberglass Subs....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-submarine‎
We call it the "Kilo Class"

49 posted on 03/22/2014 3:38:04 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( The Republican Party is very sick . Hold all contributions until we see who picks up the patient..)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Oh yeah, that’s a real puzzler — why would Iran want an exact replica to practice on? Hmm, that’s a head-scratcher alright. And note that the partisan media shilling pollutes “Stars and Stripes”:

> The continuing rapprochement between Iran and the United States and its Western allies has been highlighted by the interim nuclear deal reached last November by which Tehran agreed to halt certain nuclear activities in exchange for limited relief from sanctions.

Thanks Jet Jaguar.


50 posted on 03/22/2014 3:38:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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