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AP: Three years after US-NATO intervention, Libya is a failed state
HotAir ^ | 03-22-2014 | Morrissey

Posted on 03/22/2014 4:18:11 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016

An anniversary passed this week that went almost completely unremarked — and for good reason. March 17th marked the three-year anniversary of the UN Security Council resolution imposing a no-fly zone over Libya to stop the Moammar Qaddafi regime from attacking rebel-held Benghazi and Ajdabiya, and the three-year anniversary on the 19th of the NATO war on Libya. French, British, and American planes began bombarding the Qaddafi regime, an air war that would continue for months — while Barack Obama refused to request Congressional approval for it. Later, Obama would claim that Libya represented the smart model of Western intervention.

If so, why did these anniversaries pass unremarked? The Associated Press report on the status of Libya today gives a very good answer, although it is not written as such. Libya has become a failed state, where the government’s writ doesn’t run outside of its capital, and not even everywhere within that. Not only is it a dangerous place, but it is a danger to the surrounding nations in north Africa too:

Libya, where hundreds of militias hold sway and the central government is virtually powerless, is awash in millions of weapons with no control over their trafficking. The arms free-for-all fuels not only Libya’s instability but also stokes conflicts around the region as guns are smuggled through the country’s wide-open borders to militants fighting in insurgencies and wars stretching from Syria to West Africa.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


TOPICS: Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Syria
KEYWORDS: benghazi; egypt; europeanunion; fail; gaddafi; iran; lebanon; libya; nato; oup; putinsbuttboys; randsconcerntrolls; russia; shoresoftripoli; syria; usmarines
NATO, you're doing a heck of a job.
1 posted on 03/22/2014 4:18:11 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: PaulCruz2016

“Mission accomplished.”


2 posted on 03/22/2014 4:19:35 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: PaulCruz2016

3 posted on 03/22/2014 4:20:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: PaulCruz2016

It wasn’t a failed state when Muammar al-Gaddafi was running the place. Obama should have kept his nose out of there because it was none of his business.


4 posted on 03/22/2014 4:22:03 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: PaulCruz2016

The obvious thread from all of this — weren’t our American founding fathers brilliant? Certainly we had a couple of major stumbles along the way.

I know that it is a cliche but it makes America extra special and something that we must preserve.


5 posted on 03/22/2014 4:23:08 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Steve_Seattle

“Mission accomplished.”

Sure was! Taught everyone in the neighborhood that was agains Alqada and the Muslim Brotherhood that we were going to kill them for that.


6 posted on 03/22/2014 4:23:29 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Failed? No. The White House has simply come up with a new definition of success.


7 posted on 03/22/2014 4:23:32 PM PDT by lurk
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To: lurk

Russia will pick up these pieces, no doubt.


8 posted on 03/22/2014 4:24:56 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Kaddafi had quarreled with the Muslim fundamentalists, and had befriended black Africans—which his fellow Arabs all over North Africa and the Middle East absolutely hated.

Obama accomplished his mission, which was to destroy a rather crazy dictator who was keeping the Muslims under control, and turning it over to al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood.

After all, those are his pals.


9 posted on 03/22/2014 4:26:56 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Star Traveler

Libyan civil war

As the 2011 Libyan civil war progressed, Rice made clear that the United States and the international community saw only one choice for Gaddafi and his aides: step down from power or face significant consequences. Rice offered some of the toughest rhetoric toward Gaddafi, blasting his denials of atrocities against his own citizens as “frankly, delusional”.

Several UN diplomats said that in a closed door meeting on April 28, Rice’s claims of Gaddafi’s atrocities included the issuance of Viagra to loyalists in order to further terrorize the population with sexual violence.[41][42] Together with National Security Council figure Samantha Power, who already supported military intervention, and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who came to support it, the three overcame internal opposition from Defense Secretary Robert Gates, security adviser Thomas Donilon, and counterterrorism adviser John Brennan, to have the administration advance a UN proposal to impose a no-fly zone over Libya and authorize other military actions as necessary.[19][43]

On March 17, 2011, the UK, France and Lebanon joined Rice to vote for United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 while Brazil, Germany, and India joined permanent Security Council members China and Russia in abstaining. Rice and Clinton played major roles in gaining approval for the resolution.[19][44] Clinton said that same day that establishing a no-fly zone over Libya would require the bombing of air defenses. Rice said that “we are interested in a broad range of actions that will effectively protect civilians and increase the pressure on the Gaddafi regime to halt the killing and to allow the Libyan people to express themselves in their aspirations for the future freely and peacefully”.[45]

In January 2012 after the Russian and Chinese veto of another Security Council resolution calling on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down, Rice strongly condemned both countries, saying, “They put a stake in the heart of efforts to resolve this conflict peacefully”, adding that “we the United States are standing with the people of Syria. Russia and China are obviously with Assad.”[46] In her words, “the United States is disgusted that a couple of members of this Council continue to prevent us from fulfilling our sole purpose”.[47]

Some Security Council diplomats took issue with Rice’s negotiating style, calling it “rude” and overly blunt. According to David Rothkopf of Foreign Policy magazine, Rice is known for her “abrasiveness” but has the asset of a close relationship with the U.S. president. Human rights activists took issue with Rice and U.S. foreign policy generally in 2012 for working against U.N. statements that criticized Rwanda for supporting a rebel group in Congo known for committing atrocities.[


10 posted on 03/22/2014 4:30:22 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Star Traveler

The principle demonstrated in Libya is that in any dispute between two parties, the 0bama administration will always side with the faction more unfavorable to this country.


11 posted on 03/22/2014 4:31:23 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Cicero

Indeed, and Obama spreads chaos throughout the countries of the Middle East and chaos is great for the terrorists with which Obama aligns.


12 posted on 03/22/2014 4:33:00 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: PaulCruz2016

Everything the Clown touches ends up a failure.


13 posted on 03/22/2014 4:33:05 PM PDT by dforest
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To: dfwgator

That is hilarious!


14 posted on 03/22/2014 4:33:33 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Rome2000

Not our concern ...


15 posted on 03/22/2014 4:37:18 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: DuncanWaring

The Obama admin sends advance agitators to stir up people to overthrow their current regime. Their tactics always find the the worse excuses for humans, but Obama regime doesn’t care. The O admin isn’t picky about the scum they side with as long as the scum agrees to be a puppet of the NWO.


16 posted on 03/22/2014 4:39:43 PM PDT by dforest
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To: PaulCruz2016

The people of Libya were much better off before Obama invaded their nation. Obama is a thug.


17 posted on 03/22/2014 4:46:03 PM PDT by boycott
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To: PaulCruz2016

Obama’s Illegal War for Total/Soros Oil is too racist to even think of, let alone SPEAK!!!

Just ask anyone at The View, The Daily Show, or the Ellen Degenerate Show about this.


18 posted on 03/22/2014 4:48:14 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: PaulCruz2016

“I will stand with the Muslims...”


19 posted on 03/22/2014 4:48:37 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Cicero

Mubarak in Egypt was doing the same thing...keeping Muzzie extremists under control. Naturally Obama had to pull Mubarak down.


20 posted on 03/22/2014 4:53:11 PM PDT by entropy12 (If you did not vote, you helped elect the community organizer from south side of Chicago.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

And Kosovo is even worse.


21 posted on 03/22/2014 4:59:24 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Star Traveler
It wasn’t a failed state when Muammar al-Gaddafi was running the place. Obama should have kept his nose out of there because it was none of his business.

It seems all these tin horn dictators have banana republic type countries, but aren't they all worse off now than they were before?

22 posted on 03/22/2014 5:02:14 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: PaulCruz2016

23 posted on 03/22/2014 5:09:44 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: PaulCruz2016

So, Obama has destroyed Egypt, Libya and tried to destroy Syria.......with American taxpayer money. Yet, Putin rules the world. Obama has broken a lot since coming to power......yet it is ALWAYS someone else’s fault!


24 posted on 03/22/2014 5:24:13 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: PaulCruz2016


25 posted on 03/22/2014 5:28:38 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: PaulCruz2016

As usual, the keyboard warrior Ed Morrissey gets it wrong. Unlike Ed the dope, I worked with Israeli companies as a contractor when the Libyan civil war started.

The NATO bombing had squat to do with Quaddafi’s demise. Quaddafi messed up by ordering his army to kill Libyans. When the army refused and 75% of them told Quaddafi to go FYU, he sealed his fate.

Then that idiot SOB ordered his southern mercenary army, made up of idiot, poor African immigrants, to go kill Libyans.

The country exploded in rage after the mercenaries killed students at the universities.

The Army deserters, who raided and emptied the armories, joined the provincial militias. The rest is history. The NWO hero Quaddafi, admired by Hillary and obuma, ended up dead on the hood of an SUV, shot dead with his own gold-plated glock.

The Israelis were monitoring Hillary, and she went bat-chit crazy after she learned that her Nazi buddy Quaddafi got shot dead. She wanted the UN to indict Libyan army deserters for crimes against humanity.

The Libyan incident was an exercise that scared the crap out of the NWO fascists. The NWO pigs like Hillary, Soros, Obama and Bush knew that they had lost control. It scared the hell out of them.


26 posted on 03/22/2014 5:29:44 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

That’s not how I remember it.

1. Gaddafi was winning in March 2011. His forces wiped out all rebel gains, and were on the outskirts of the city that started the rebellion (Benghazi) when, at the 11th hour, the U.N. allowed for a no-fly zone, and France immediately blew up all his tanks and artillery surrounding the city, and prevented him from using his air force anymore.

2. After that intervention, the war dragged on for another seven months, despite the world’s elite air powers essentially acting as the rebels’ own personal air force.

Sorry, but it’s really hard to imagine the rebels having won without the foreign intervention they received.


27 posted on 03/22/2014 5:44:06 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: PaulCruz2016

That’s not how I remember it.’

Remember what? Some incipient news report that you favor.

That’s okay. You weren’t there.


28 posted on 03/22/2014 5:51:14 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: dfwgator

We could ask the same about Saddam Hussein and Iraq. I mean with all the sectarian fighting, Al-Qaeda making strategic headway and now 9 year old brides? US lives and/or money would appear to buy the best problems possible!

And don`t look now but we have many people, some on this forum, that want to do a wash and repeat in the Ukraine. I wonder which economic collapse would be better, one driven by militarism or one driven by a welfare society?


29 posted on 03/22/2014 6:08:36 PM PDT by nomad
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To: PaulCruz2016

Oh yeah - The Nobama Spring


30 posted on 03/22/2014 6:16:21 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: dforest
"The Obama admin sends advance agitators to stir up people to overthrow their current regime. Their tactics always find the the worse excuses for humans, but Obama regime doesn’t care. The O admin isn’t picky about the scum they side with as long as the scum agrees to be a puppet of the NWO."

The Washington way of "spreading democracy", as it was on its way on Maidan place in Kiew, with cocktail Molotov, bats and guns.


31 posted on 03/22/2014 6:17:57 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

BTTT


32 posted on 03/22/2014 6:33:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

33 posted on 03/22/2014 6:34:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: sergeantdave

Notice you didn’t dispute anything I wrote. I can post actual news reports and sources backing up what I wrote, you can just say “I remember”.

You seem to think standing in the general vicinity makes you some sort of expert, and that’s laughable.


34 posted on 03/22/2014 6:37:19 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: entropy12

A quote is attributed to Qaddafi along the lines of “If it wasn’t for me, the mobs would be running wild in the street.”

Don’t know if true or not, but, if so he pretty well had his country pegged.


35 posted on 03/22/2014 6:39:22 PM PDT by FAA
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To: FAA
Don’t know if true or not, but, if so he pretty well had his country pegged.

It is true of Assad in Syria, and was true with Saddam in Iraq.

It's just the nature of the beast in that part of the world, it's naive to think otherwise.

36 posted on 03/22/2014 6:40:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: PaulCruz2016

You seem to think standing in the general vicinity makes you some sort of expert, and that’s laughable.

You seem to think that reading news stories makes you a genuis, but that actually makes you a blathering left-wing moron.


37 posted on 03/22/2014 6:45:35 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: FAA

A quote is attributed to Qaddafi along the lines of “If it wasn’t for me, the mobs would be running wild in the street.”

Hosni Mubarak of Egypt told them much the same - I’m paraphrasing “If you don’t want me, you will get islamists, Muslim Brotherhood, and chaos”


38 posted on 03/22/2014 6:46:13 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

I remember reading reports from Iraq after the invasion that the Iraqi perception of “freedom” was not the same as ours. To them it seemed that freedom was doing whatever you wanted, whenever you wanted, and, to whoever you wanted to. Rules were out the window and repercussion was no longer feared because they were now “free.”

In all of the “Arab Spring” states we see something not unlike that mindset showing itself.


39 posted on 03/22/2014 6:55:35 PM PDT by FAA
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To: PaulCruz2016

..........we can apply Hillary Clinton’s most famous epithet to this one................”at this point, what difference does it make?”


40 posted on 03/22/2014 7:29:34 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Rome2000

It wouldn’t be the first time nor will it be the last time idiots at State enthusiastically pushed the worst policy. Look at Bush’s Iraq debacle.

Rice, as Obama’s NSA, is just par for the course. She’s affirmative actioned well above her competency. She also proves that simply occupying a series of “prestigious” positions can’t cure stupid.


41 posted on 03/23/2014 7:54:22 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Truly frightening the collection of Harvard nutjobs calling the shots on foreign policy. Samantha Power is equally bonkers.

Their motivation has nothing to do with US interests, and guys like Putin see what hes up against in DC and knows there is nothing these bozos will come up with to stop them.

In fact, the only threat posed by this egghead Administration to Russia is that their imbecilic actions might cause Putin or his people to laugh themselves to death


42 posted on 03/23/2014 8:42:24 AM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Rome2000

Harvard forms an echo chamber of elite thought. I watched a liberal celebrity complain about the Muslim control of universities in Iran. He wished they could be more like American universities. That they’re nearly identical in approach to “unorthodox” views didn’t occur to him or the liberal audience.


43 posted on 03/23/2014 5:49:33 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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